QUIXTAR....funny you mentioned that MLM...online

I was part of Quixtar for 3 yrs... Lets say I worked my behind off...plus spent thousands of dollars and hours... at this business..
The profit was not even close..to the work..

If you are willing to give up your entire life for
life.. you might make the big bucks.. personally I don't think its worth the time and money you end up spending..

The semminars...the tapes...the books.. to top it off the products which most are way to highly priced..
then you got to get members...to help your volume
then there is your downline to help you make your money..
So basically your making money of the people you sign up..

Sorry for all the negativity... but I have (was) been there for 3 long years..

dmcgill,

Yes...it's Amway and Multi-level marketing. You grow width for profit, not depth, and you have to recruit massive amounts of people and sign up "members" to purchase from websites. The philosphy of owning your own business, residual income and leverage are right on the money, however, the "business model" is old (created in the 50's). You will have to sponsor in your 2nd leg 12-15 people, spend $200-$400/monthly, $50 for voice-mail, books-tapes-seminar tickets BEFORE you make a penny. Walk slowly in this jungle my friend. I've met way too many people who've tried this and lost friends. Don't use up your only "can you evaluate this for me" technique.
AND yes, there is something now that is not mlm, which do provide residual income, leverage without having to recruit the masses - only 2. If you're interested, feel free to call me 586-610-6148. If not, good luck.

Hi,

I have joined up to a company called quixtar. They are located at www.quixtar.com I am looking for downlines but the main question is have you heard of them before. Some of my friends, (who signed me up) are making up to 10,000 per month now and really not working hard at all. I was thinking of doing my own store online.
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It seems to me that certain people should be in this business. People who are veteran salespeople who are moderately succesful at producing volume and finding others who are talented in recruiting people or people who have a salesperson mentality.

My question is why do others succeed at this business while others fail. We can not just say they are lucky. It takes a certain type of person to succeed in this business and I think most people who are in that business really are not the right people.

I believe a those who are aggressive outgoing and don't take rejection personally are prime candiates. Those who are at the top must have had an eye for these types of people and recruited them in their first line.


"$50 for voice-mail, books-tapes-seminar tickets BEFORE you make a penny."

I won't spend jack until the IBo or whoever lays out the plan. If a veteran sales skilled force needs $400 training they can forget me being in the business.

DMC Gill,

It's Multi-level marketing and if you sign up the masses without having worries if the average person can "truly achieve" success, then do it. You will first need to sign up 12-15 people, then start creating tons of competition with 3,4,5,6,7 legs, all competing with one-another. MLM systems were created in 1950. It's 2004 - wake up. There are much better businesses to be involved in from the home, than quixstar/amway.

Mike
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And, we wonder why people fall for scams, such as the Nigerian 419?

Just read through the "get rich" hype, the special jargon, then stop a minute. I submit that only the most ruthless have a chance of winning at the pyramid game -- and what do you sacrifice?

I have to admit that it's become a fascinating research project as I've managed to steer clear of most of the MLM schemes during the past 20 years or so. I've been aware, but not in touch with them.

There are certainly enough anti-MLM sites to give one a thorough background in the topic--more than enough to do up a comprehensive article for my own forum's scam and fraud section.

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SCAM. Anyone who tells you they are making money is lying... Don't believe them, the only ones in this org. making money is QuixStar wholesaling for the sale of their products and the promoters of QuixStar, the dedicated speakers. They make money from the sale of self help books and CD's and "How to make a fortune Books" and crap like that.

DO NOT BUY INTO THE LIES. They prey on the desperate...

Dateline NBC aired it last week.

When people are looking to work at home, they are looking for some way to improve their lives. Whether it is financial freedom, improved health, secured future, family time, personal development, helping others, caring for the environment, you name it! Everyone is looking for something!

I joined Amway about 12 years ago....lost LOTS of money and made NONE! I was given many EMPTY promises and felt like my future had been ripped away from me. Obviously the future looked bleak with the idea of having to work for someone else 50+ more years - CAN'T IMAGINE!

10 years ago, by fate, I became involved with another company. I began my membership soley to use the products....they are that WONDERFUL! They are safer and healthier than the retail brands, and I don't sell, stock or deliver products! I am able to stay home and raise my children because I get a paycheck each and every month, simply for referring other customers and helping them to open an account. The company takes it from there. My family is better today because of a simple shopping decision I made 10 years ago. Imagine that!

My point...I believe there are better things out there than Amway/Quickstar. Every business is not right for everyone...but I can tell you this...whatever company you are looking at, if you don't LOVE their products and find value in simply being a customer first and foremost...you will have a difficult time building a business no matter what company it is! Do your research...you just need to find what is right for you and your family!

No matter what name they go under it is still AMway in one form or another. THere are people I know who have done well with it. My husband and I joined many years ago, and stayed in just so we could order the product at our cost. We finally got out about 4 years ago. There were just too many meetings and functions. You really have to get involved and yes, it is def. similar to a cult in that your regular non amway friends seem to get put on the back burner and your new friends occupy most of your time. I would say use caution in deciding. Make sure you are being pressured. That was the biggest turn off people telling me I had to go to the meetings everyweek, listen to the motovational tapes and so on and so forth. There are some positive things about the company. They do try and build up your self esteem, their products are great and they have been around for a long time. So to each their own.

sounds like a pyramid of some sort..........i am going to the website to take a look. someone just called me fom this company...........

What I think is funny is: after the number whoop down that was given to actually -see- how much would be needed for 10k a month from his friends.. there has not been -one- other comment from the person needing help other than:

1. There are two sides to a story (typical amway-cult response)
2. Disassociation with the topic and run (another typical response)

He prob isnt in Amway.. but it just looked weird.

Here's a link to the Dateline story about Quixtar mentioned by lcafazzo:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4375477/

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Notice the date of the original post? Nearly a year ago - wow. I have been wooed by Quixtar too - by a friend and her fiance, and by some random guy that found me on Monster.com.

I've tried my hand at MLM and found it not worth my time. It's basically a business but you really need to know sales and sales marketing, and you really need to have been a sales manager to be able to do this kind of business, especially if you want to do well. I'm not of that of that particular cut.

What bothers me about Quixtar is that it does require so much of your time. When I was being recruited I was working in mortgage sales and they kept asking me if I could make it to this meeting or that rally. I went to one - I didnt need the stupid pitch, I needed to know how their business plan worked. Never got a straight answer (this was from the random guy, not my friend), but what I hear I did not like. I hoped that MLM had gotten more sophisticated and improved, but it was still the same. Anyway, I never went back to another meeting - I couldnt go to some 2 hour meeting after working a 10 hour day and finally get home at midnight - all for what?

It's clear that this is not a business opportunity, but really a free-lance job but you pay THEM. The business setup, for you to really make money, is for you to act as a sales manager. You need to recruit people as motivated as you, help them recruit people as motivated as you, and basically nurse and mother your downline. You are working pretty darn hard - but all following the company's system. It's setup like a franchise, except, it's not duplicable like a real franchise. Like several posters have said before - the real successful ones have been doing this for at least 10 years. I'm sorry, but if I bought a franchise or some other company and I'm not seeing any success in my first 10 years, it's no business opportunity!

Another thing that bugs me is that they've packaged this with Christian faith. My friend is a Christian and she was skeptical about the whole thing until she saw how they incorporated worship etc into it. I thought, cool, sounds great. I've not seen it myself, but I dont really know. But the bottomline is, being a Christian company is great but how do you maintain quality control? After all, Quixtar is MLM and it is too democratized, to heterogenous to maintain quality control. Not to mention the nature of MLM - ergo the focus on the promises of riches and material success, instead of service and product quality, in my opinion, runs counter to Christian values. We believe you can judge a Christian by the fruit he or she bears. An apple tree should bear apples, not bananas. Likewise, a business opportunity should be judged by the fruit it bears - does the opportunity make sense, is it duplicable, is it sustainable, can you do the marketing efforts, how much freedom do you have to grow the business, any limits, etc. If it doesn't answer in a positive way for you all of those questions and more, then the opportunity is not right.

That;s just my humble opinion. I'd like to hear from the original poster if after nearly a year he has had any success.

It's a scam, there are always some people who make money in these schemes, and that's how they sell it, but I've known people who've been involved in it, and it's a scam... it was even on dateline one night... I'd be very careful...

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Sorry, Amway is a straight-out scam. I spent 2 1/2 years heavily involved. We followed every step - had no non-Amway friends, told people when they asked if the "International Network Marketing" opportunity I was pitching was Amway that, "Amway is one of the 5,000 companies we represent," went to all the national meetings, bought the tapes and books, and got high enough (Pearl for anyone who knows the levels) to be brought into a meeting where I was taught that the "real money" is made in speaking fees, tapes and books. I asked how much a Diamond actually makes in Amway commissions and was told it averaged $20,000 per year, but the other stuff usually averages in the $100k+ range. It's a scam.

When I quit, because I could no longer tell people it was anything but a scam after my insider knowledge, I was excommunicated. My Amway "family" actually screamed at me and told me never to talk to anyone in their group again - and even threatened to sue me if I did. Bizarre. The anger was amazing.

It was a long while before I stopped thinking about every person I met as a potential paycheck. My mentality was fully embedded with a desire to recruit everyone, so normal conversations were very difficult without trying to work in "the business."

Quixstar is just Amway's attempt at renaming itself because so many Amway distributors have destroyed their name with their cult-like practices.

By the way, I used to show people photocopies of checks for $5,000 and more per month. What I didn't say was that I had to pay out to my downline out of that money, and my take was more like $500, of which my expenses were much much higher. It's amazing how quickly I got worked into lying and cheating because I was taught it was for the people's own good. Odds are very very small that your friends are making $10,000 a month, or even any profit at all.

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I'm gonna have to disagree with you Siren. I've been in Corporate sales for 10 years,self employed with my own computer company for 3 years, and I've seen many scams, was involved with Amway, got burned by the NSA water filter scam. I've look throughly at the business plan and business model of Quixstar and had my friend who's a high ranking business lawyer look at it, and it's completely above board. In fact they're constantly audited, and theres watchdogs who keep a constant eye on these types of enterprises.

And I have actaully met people who've only been in it for 5 years and are doing extremely well and swear by it. I've met lawyers, doctors, professors etc... why would any these professionals leave their professions to do this? I suggest you look at it again and give it a chance, nothing happens overnight and they're not selling that concept. yes, youmight have to sit on the bench while your teammates are on the field, but everyone has their turn at the bench,by this analogy, I mean you might have to watch others pulling away in their Benz's and Porche's while you get into your tempo, but they've paid their dues and stuck to it, and if you do the same someday it will be you leaving in yor benz looking at someone getting in their tempo, it's a part of life, it's how things work my friend.

Attitude is everything!!!

Best of luck in your future Endeavours

Mike

It's not the company that's the problem, although they do allow their distributors to continue with their cultish, dishonest practices. The problem is the leaders who preach a certain Amway-way. The company is being watched and regulated, sure, but the distributors have created a scam. Solid research into these friends of yours would find that their money, if they're really making any, is being made from speaking fees and books and tapes and meetings. It is well known that Amway does not make a profit in the US - it's all Asia now for them. In Asia, though, they actually use the name Amway. Not here - you're hard pressed to get an Amway distributor to admit it's Amway until the day you're signing your papers.

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I am a member /owner of quixtar. It's a great business. You aren't selling things to people. You are telling others how to make money through the internet. It's a profitable business and a legitmate one as well. I love the program; the fact that my grandparents had 6 children and put them all through the college of their choice & didn't have to take out one student loan is fabulous! He was working as a school principal / teacher through-out the time period & my grandmother wasn't working outside of the home at all. That is a great defeat, having an eduction for your children & not going into debt to do so.

thanks everyone for the previous posts they were a big help.... I was approached by someone about this.... it started off with the usual, what can I do for you want can I get for you...yada yada yada... while I was listening all I could think of was amway... what blew my mind what who approached me about this... this was a doctor who should be pulling down easy 6 figures in his profession. why the hell would he be mixed up in this... my next call is to him to cancel the meeting number two.....the one where he decides whether I am good enough for this.. I spent an hour reading every post here.... you have saved me a ton of time...and probably even more money....thanks...unaslob

MLM's, and Amway in particular, are predicated on one simple plan:
You have to create a captive market.
Outside of the group that you build with veiled promises of success (read greed), you will find little results.

Another principle ignored with MLM's is the base objective of getting something for nothing (or in their words, multipying your results through other people's efforts.)

Without those two pillars, MLM is dead.

wow...a friend got my hyped up and i was planning on joinin up with him..hes been in this quixstar program fo about a month now..bein in college and not havin a job right now..i thought it would b a good investment of my time..the statistics he showed me were great i thought.. but i knew it had to b to good to b tru.. after readin all this negative feedback..i think i'm going to go back to what i told him the first time he told me..i'm to busy and not interested..

but when these ibo trained guys come up to u..they no how to talk and how to persuade u to join up with them.. he did a great job introducing it to me and another guy who was with us.

my question to the ppl who've been in the program is..even though i probably already no the anwser..should i really just stay away and not try it? is it really that bad of a program where all ur time is occupied..i was told all i need is 5-15 hours a week adn i could b making good money.. obviously u guys involved with the program already would laugh at those numbers.. i hope someone responds to this...

"Friends who have done well" with Amway or Quixstar say that because that's what they're supposed to say. One cannot recruit someone without the hype.

One tried giving me his pitch at WalMart, telling me how great the money is, and the products are, etc. So I'm thinking, 'why are you here, driving a beat-up car...' I've had several tell me it was something to make 'extra income' in one's spare time. Anything that isn't forthright about what it is or where the money is made jeopordizes relationships among friends, especially if they don't let up after you say 'not interested'. That's just my opinion...

Hello Everyone, I have been in Network marketing since before 1999, and I at present run successful ecommerce business ventures which generates almost $100,000 in sales volume from the internet a year.

Like any business that you start it takes time and patience to start up a successful business. Quixtar even though alot of people have there doubts, I can say with 100% truth that Quixtar is a legimate business. The compensation plan has been audited and accepted by the FTC and BBB. Actually the compensation technique has been around longer then 1999 and used by thousands of top offline and online retailers. It is quite Similar to Affiliate Marketing, (commissions for sales of products to clients, and PV for members) I admit I have been a IBO for over a year and have gotten Checks from quixtar. Quixtar is not the only business venture I use, I see quixtar as another business venture, there products are of quality and they have hundreds of brand items at wholesale price. Like my other business ventures (not Quixtar related) took me a year too make more then my x job every month and now I'm making two times more then I did at my old job. and some of that is quixtar.

There is nothing wrong with Motivation tapes and books, they have helped me reach this position with my quixtar and non quixtar affiliation. Quixtar does have some good specials and coupons and it is a matter of fact that coupons and specials help convert sales. For those people who are negative or don't know enough about Quixtar, need to read some ecommerce news. Online shopping may top $20 billion Also Quixtar is a a member of the Alticor family Alticor sales surge past $6 billion Quixtar drives over $5 million dollars in sales volume a day on average on there products and online stores. They are a top online retailer. Quixtar Articles & Reviews

Like any business it takes time and patience to build a business, it can take years to be able to sit back and have thousands of dollars in commissions coming in. Like It's expected that the 2005/2006 year will be my turn to be in that position. Quixtar to me is just another business venture and it's legimate, you just have to decide if you want to put the effort into it. I have gotten checks from them so they are legimate.

Hi, jc101. Welcome to WPW.

Do the checks you've received from Quixstar add up to being greater than the checks they've received from you?

jawn_tech- Quixtar is like any other business, you have to put in some fees in the beginning, lets compare it with affiliate marketing, Affiliate marketing- you have to spend money on hosting,domains,advertising, and other tools you may use and you have to pay monthly fees. We all know that if your new to Affiliate Marketing, you don't see that first check until you learn how to SEO and market products and get your first product sell, it can take more them 3 months to even get a sale with Affiliate Marketing. Basically with quixtar you pay a registration fee which is about the cost of a domain and webhost) and there are no monthly fees, which in turn is less inexpensive. Basically we know that in affiliate marketing, the first month or whatever, you may spend more money then your making, for couple months, it's the same as Quixtar. The tools you may buy for Motivation is optional not required. Quixtar is a retail business, (like walmart) you shop online for your self, food, etc. and it's word of mouth(Similar to 2nd tier in affiliate programs) I wasn't forced to buy any material, and in fact my upline,(same as 2nd tier in Affiliate Marketing) let me borrow the material for free) And to answer your question lets just say does other retail stores pay you a % for shopping at there store and refer others (like 2nd tier) That's all it is. We all know that Affiliate Marketing (2nd tier) may be considered MLM. I use the products because I like them and there of quality, and there products are satisfaction for 180 days, and to be honest never had any trouble with there customer service, and they replaced my orders that came damaged free of charge!. Anyway Besides the Registration fee and renewel fee(which is the same on domains) and material. ) there is no other fees.

jawn_tech- Quixtar is like any other business, you have to put in some fees in the beginning, lets compare it with affiliate marketing, Affiliate marketing- you have to spend money on hosting,domains,advertising, and other tools you may use and you have to pay monthly fees. We all know that if your new to Affiliate Marketing, you don't see that first check until you learn how to SEO and market products and get your first product sell, it can take more them 3 months to even get a sale with Affiliate Marketing. Basically with quixtar you pay a registration fee which is about the cost of a domain and webhost) and there are no monthly fees, which in turn is less inexpensive. Basically we know that in affiliate marketing, the first month or whatever, you may spend more money then your making, for couple months, it's the same as Quixtar. The tools you may buy for Motivation is optional not required. Quixtar is a retail business, (like walmart) you shop online for your self, food, etc. and it's word of mouth(Similar to 2nd tier in affiliate programs) I wasn't forced to buy any material, and in fact my upline,(same as 2nd tier in Affiliate Marketing) let me borrow the material for free) And to answer your question lets just say does other retail stores pay you a % for shopping at there store and refer others (like 2nd tier) That's all it is. We all know that Affiliate Marketing (2nd tier) may be considered MLM. I use the products because I like them and there of quality, and there products are satisfaction for 180 days, and to be honest never had any trouble with there customer service, and they replaced my orders that came damaged free of charge!. Anyway Besides the Registration fee and renewel fee(which is the same on domains) and material. ) there is no other fees.

jawn_tech- Quixtar is like any other business, you have to put in some fees in the beginning, lets compare it with affiliate marketing, Affiliate marketing- you have to spend money on hosting,domains,advertising, and other tools you may use and you have to pay monthly fees. We all know that if your new to Affiliate Marketing, you don't see that first check until you learn how to SEO and market products and get your first product sell, it can take more them 3 months to even get a sale with Affiliate Marketing. Basically with quixtar you pay a registration fee which is about the cost of a domain and webhost) and there are no monthly fees, which in turn is less inexpensive. Basically we know that in affiliate marketing, the first month or whatever, you may spend more money then your making, for couple months, it's the same as Quixtar. The tools you may buy for Motivation is optional not required. Quixtar is a retail business, (like walmart) you shop online for your self, food, etc. and it's word of mouth(Similar to 2nd tier in affiliate programs) I wasn't forced to buy any material, and in fact my upline,(same as 2nd tier in Affiliate Marketing) let me borrow the material for free) And to answer your question lets just say does other retail stores pay you a % for shopping at there store and refer others (like 2nd tier) That's all it is. We all know that Affiliate Marketing (2nd tier) may be considered MLM. I use the products because I like them and there of quality, and there products are satisfaction for 180 days, and to be honest never had any trouble with there customer service, and they replaced my orders that came damaged free of charge!. Anyway Besides the Registration fee and renewel fee(which is the same on domains) and material. ) there is no other fees.

jc101 I understand. Any business has startup costs, some more and some less. My inquiry is only meant to ask if there is profit. I was approached by an aquaintance who spelled everything out about Quixstar, and I made sure to ask plenty of questions. I was told that I do have to buy so much product, and doing the math I couldn't forsee a profit unless I recruited others. In affiliate marketing, if I already have a site up, there's no additional costs for most programs (ie commission junction, linkshare, Google, etc.) In Quixstar, I couldn't find prices lower than above the retail value of comparable products I already purchase. One of the selling points mentioned to me in the program was that 'you already pay $200 a week for these products...' But in short, really I don't, for my family of 3. I pay less than $2 for both shampoo and conditioner, $3 for laundry detergent, etc., clothes and tires are more cheaper at the store down the street. The only thing that enticed me was just to want to sell merchandise I didn't have to ship, where customers could go online and make purchases -- heck I'd even go to their house and show them a catalog with order forms, if I could see the prices being competetive and profitable for me. What this gentleman was showing me -- I wasn't seeing it. Being open-minded and always welcoming to new innovative ways of making money, I looked for any potential I could find, and just couldn't find it. In addition the site I was to refer customers to, I gasped at the prices they would have to pay.

I actually wouldn't mind being talked into it, if someone could spell out clearly with details where the money is made. Things like affiliate marketing, dropshipping, anything new I've been exposed to spells out in nuts and bolts where the money is made. I'm having difficulty finding someone to show how Quixstar (Amway) makes me profit, other than just saying it works.

If you're truthfully making profit, I wish you all the best of prosperity in your business. (But if you are, a 'yes' to my question would have carried more weight) I just haven't seen anyone say the checks they've received from Quixstar amounts to more than the checks Quixstar received from them. In other words, profit.

Hey I'll send you a private message explaining it better in couple minutes. - Jason

Jason (jc101), thanks for the pm. You do well at making a good case. Glad I slipped into the discussion and great you're here posting as well. Could be some of my information was incorrect, or my faulty memory.

When I was younger, I recall my mother had a friend who was our 'Avon lady.' My mother would buy from her all the time. As a kid it was one of the first models of business and marketing I'd seen, which seemed unlike selling stuff for school and baseball (back then, selling to aunts and family was enough, and they buy no matter what). Every time she came back to bring the products my mother placed a new order, so it was a continuous business. I don't know if they work in tiers, but my mother's friend was better at selling goods than recruiting. I'm curious if Quixtar operates similar to that model.

Now I'm thinking of the marketing approach as presented to me by my friends/aquaintances. (I actually had 3 people approach me -- 1 for Amway back in the day, and 2 for Quixtar.) If our roles were reversed, I would have reversed the marketing strategy. They should have tried to sell me the product first, and sell the business second. Though I wouldn't have jumped in both feet, it would have piqued my curiosity how a friend could be making money in it.

Do Quixtar members put up their own websites?

jawn_tech- Yeah thats the problem with people from Amway , they seem to be trying to tell others about just the business and not the whole package. I totally agree with what you said. about your question about members having there own websites. ibos,Members/clients buy from quixtar directly (quixtar is there supplier of the products) If your talking about IBO websites, You must follow Quixtars Business rules in order to have a website promoting the package. Which really isn't that big of a deal if you understand it :0). Yeah to my knowledge your "avon woman" marketing experience is similar to Quixtar. Anyway, I'm glad I could give you that information about, I believe telling people the truth about the package the way I did makes more since then for those who do not have have same network marketing experience, which in my opinion if I was new to the internet and didn't have the network marketing experience. I probably would of been the one of the ones trying to tell you about the business part too, LOL. Anyway if you have any more questions feel free to contact me. I will be as honest as I can. happy Holidays to you too.

Lorilee, this is what happens with ALL of these pyramid plans.

It is not about the product or the numbers or the nice cars. It is that the pyramid schema doe snot work unless you are really ruthless and are selling snake oil (the schema, the products may be somewhat right).

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You all did a great job of beatting up Amway. (quixstra) I have been involved in a business and am intrested in your feedback. It is a similar type of business with a better pay plan. I have partners makeing average of 6000.00 a month and have been doing this only 90 days that is 90 days 6,000 x 3months 18,000 in 1st 90 days . I have never seen a marketing company pay like this before. view my site www.hottravelbuys.com click on presentation then view the small icon marked compensation plan.

Aside from the fact that this is a business and you still need to work it like anything else I cannot see anything you can tear up about this opportunity.

It is a online travel store that you get people intrested in ,WHY because they receive travel perks including free travel and deep discounts for travel agents.How do people make mad money? after six people you tell about this opportunity join and own there own travel business. your monthly fee of 49.00 is now reembursted to you every month. now your site cost you nothing at all to run.now for every six people you get intrested in this opportunity and join you will receive 1,000 dollar bonuus plus as they join you will receive 50 -to 100 for each person that joins now every one in your down line will be making money on travel bookings and getting everyone to join , you will receive 50%of what the receive for bonuses etc.un real check it out for yourself featured in Success magazine and on front page of super bowl pamplet magazine



I challange you to beat up this pay plan and opportunity. any intrest e mail me hottravelbuys@yahoo.com

I had a large network in quixstar before the quixstar website even went live. I did it b/c a friend asked me too,

It is a waste of time & does nto fit with the internet with the model they currently have. (having to have a number to get into the store)

Amway was better than Quixstar & those are the peeps who are making the $$ off of it.

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Well, before you start hollering Scam, you should know more about it, and after reading your statements, tells me you do not know anything about it and that you had got this so called information from some one else that did not know anything about that Business. By the way, I have some personal friends that are in this Business and have made an awful lot of money, some had retired before the age of 40, can you do this? Also, let me know if you come up with something better.

My son is a IBO with quixstar and doing well. Quixstar is really a division of Amway who we all know and trust. The products are great and I use them myself. I became a IBO just to get the IBO price on the products. If you work hard it WILL pay off. My son will probably be able to retire at age 45 and he is 31 as well as his business has progressed. If anyone has any questions he could answer them. Contact him at meinesunlimited@hotmail.com

Yes, I have been a member since 1989, when it was just Amway, I'm still in but sort of an inactive member, I do still buy stuff and I still have a downline. I just could not do the business justice and build it the way I needed to due to my Job, Job, it took me on the road constantly and usually working anywheres from 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. Its a real good Business though, thats why I am hanging in there. However, because of what I do job wise, this is starting to get old fast, I'm too old to change careers now, so I found another business that I can do that can make me lots of money and maybe get me out of my Job, wouldn't that be great?
This other business does not interfere much with anything else I do.
If you are interested in knowing what this is, you can email me at rmnd.rbnsn@gmail.com, or leave me a reply message to this and I can explain, and I am bby no means now taking anything away from Quixtar.

Ray

I was just wondering, what are you doing to make some good money, besides having a job, because we all know what that is, right? JUST OVER BROKE !!!!! So I'm interested, and I'm sure a lot of other people here are also interested.

Thanks;

Ray

A friend of mine recently tried to recruit me to sell for quixtar. He has been doing it for a couple of months. At first it seemed like a good way of making money. I met with the guy who recruited my friend and he was really excited about quixtar. He told me that he has been working for qixtar for a couple of years and he made it seem like a really good way to make money. Eventually he invited me to come to a meeting at a hotel to get more information on getting set up with the quixtar team. There were probably 70 other people there and one main speaker. The speaker made it seem like everyone who works with quixtar will make about $72,000 a year afer just a few months of work. He also said that after two to three years we might be making up to $250,000 a year with minimal work. (In the fine print of their information packet the Average Gross Income for "Active" IBO's was $115).

At first I was not skeptical at all, but after hearing these claims I started thinking that it was too good to be true. I have my own retail website and I know the kind of volume I would have to sell at to make $250,000 a year. And, being the owner of my own company my profit margin is obviously higher than what I would have made working for quixtar (3% to start). The clincher for me was when I found out that it was going to COST ME $175.00 to become part of the company! (or to become an IBO as they call it). Anyone wanting to work for me selling my producs and only sharing 3% of the revenue (which is what quixtar IBOs start at) I would hire ONE THE SPOT and tell them they were crazy for working for next to nothing. I definitely would not tell them that they can probably make up to $72,00 per year (at a 3% margin they would have to sell $2,400,000 dollars worth of products for me. Sound easy? Does this sound possible by working only 5-15 hours per week? Well you would have to be a really good salesman is all I can say). Grandted, with the quixtar program, the more sales you generate the more you share in the profit. But still, at 25% (which is their highest level of profit sharing shown in their information packet) you would have to generate $288,000 in sales to make $72,000 per year.

So, if you're thinking about selling for quixtar for some easy money, I recommend that you take a look at the numbers and think about whether or not you think you can acheive that volume of sales by working only 5-15 hours per week.

Now, I never joined quixtar, so I cannot say for a fact that it is not possible to make a lot of money with them. But thinking realistically it seems like any work you do will make someone else a lot richer than it will make you.

I just want to point out that when I asked the guy who was trying to recruit me how much he was making he dodged the question right away. As I said he had been working for quixtar for two years. I also found out that he has another job, so working for quixtar is not his main source of income. He was very offended when I told him that I was not interested. Eventually he confessed that he only makes a couple hundred dollars per month working for quickstar ("But I'm making more every month!" is what he told me). Two years of hard work for less than a grand per month? Before I got off the phone with him he told me that he wanted his information packet back. If he was as affluent and rich due to selling for quixtar as he should be then I think he could have cared less about losing a folder with some papers and 2 CDs and a DVD.

Hi.

I would stay clear of anything Quixstar or Amway. My sister recently got suckered into this scam. As a result, she went from have career goals and aspirations, going back to school but now all she cares about is making money with the allusion of not doing any work. Quixstar tells people that the only way they can have a good successful life is to make a lot of money to buy expensive cars and material items. My sister is ALWAYS tired. She never hangs out with any of her friends anymore because these people tell her that they are not living up to their potential. How can these people promote cutting out all your friends and family that are the only people that truly love you? Its a cult and its scary. I feel like I have lost my sister who used to once be so happy and curious about the world. Now she is always tired and too busy to take off one weekend to spend time with me. She never calls me back because she is too busy "working on her future." She is only 23 and barely explored the world yet. Quixstar is scary and they take advantage of people who are vulnerable. They play on people insecurities. Everytime i try to tell her that there are more options out there for her in her life she thinks im crazy. She doesn't read the newspaper, read books ( only self help ones). She never hangs out with her friends, or go on trips or even to the movies because people tell her thats a waste of her time and she isn't using all of her potential. I feel like i have lost my sister to this crazy scam. I just pray that one day she will wake up and realize that this isn't the only way to live. Hopefully it wont be too late....

Also,
If anyone has any advice on how I can speak to me sister. i feel like she has been so brainwashed by Quickstar and wants to cut me out of her life. What can I say to her or do? Should I just sit back and let her figure it out? Im scared bc i dont want time to pass and lose her for good.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Please email me at sahmad88@gmail.com

Thanks!

You've tried to get her to see the truth, all you can do now is to be supportive. It's her life and her mistake to make. She'll have to live with the consequences.

You can avoid arguments and agree to disagree if you refuse to discuss it at any level.

Just be there if things fail and be prepared to congratulate her if it works out favourably.

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First of all, you DO make $$$ doing this business and if you are stupid enough to spend $$$ on books and cds that is your dumb.