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Old 03-03-2004, 12:25 PM
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Could the future of search include Google brain implants? Possibly, according to Google representative Craig Silverstein.

A few years ago Silverstein gave a speech on how search engines will become ubiquitous. He predicted users would be able to talk to engines and the engines would talk back. Now, he says, that prediction closely resembles what we are seeing in today's world of search.

Silverstein is now changing his vision of the future of search to an even more bizarre scenario, as revealed at this morning's Search Engine Strategies Session. In a speech closely resembling a Star Trek episode, he shared his new prediction of search moving towards the existence of search pets hundreds of years from now. These search pets would not necessarily be like a pet dog, but more like "a genetically engineered beast."

Adding to the science fiction, he believes search pets will be able to understand emotions and allow people to search for things that aren't necessarily facts. For example, searchers can ask search pets, "What did Bob mean when he said that?"

Helping increase and enhance communication, search pets will understand the way the world works and the way humans interact. Search pets will be able to determine and untangle what searchers mean politically and socially.

They might help take some pressure off doctors. Doctors typically just analyze and treat symptoms, which can sometimes cause problems. For example, SARS closely resembles other illnesses, making it highly difficult to diagnose and treat. Search pets could potentially help doctors more effectively diagnose problems.

Search pets could also help out in the bedroom. Take marital issues, for example. Guys, when you ask your honey what's wrong and she says nothing - there IS somehting wrong and it's NOT nothing. Silverstein sees search pets as being able to find to the correct answer to these tricky questions.

Will searching as we know it be completely replaced by search pets?

"We'll still search for facts," he says, "but in all likelyhood the facts will be contained in a brain implant."

Basically, he predicts people will eventually have search functions implanted directly into their brains.

So, what would you think about having Google implanted into your brain?
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Default Google brain implants?

The seat of one's intellect is determined by culture.
Ancient Egyptians located thoughts in the heart, Homeric heroes in their bellies, we assumed that we think in our heads, then scientists said thinking could be done in a box- or more specifically in a machine.
Now they say in the future we will need search pets, or Google brain implants.

They say the Internet is the big revolution of our century, may be they are right.

What I dislike is the thought of needing such a complicated procedure for finding the closest pizzeria.


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Google brain implants.

They're stil looking for intelligent life!

(None found on the planet Earth then?) (Joke)

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Larry Page has a similar vision of Google-in-the-brain:

"On the more exciting front, you can imagine your brain being augmented by Google. For example you think about something and your cell phone could whisper the answer into your ear," he said.

I think their formerly-with-the-Grateful-Dead gourmet cook is putting something in the food.
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Thats a lovely vision, and perhaps I'll give it some credence - when their technology advances to the point that they can detect and penalize hidden text or...
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Old 03-04-2004, 12:34 PM
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Default brain implants for everyone, yeah!

Oh boy, I can hardly wait!
Of course our government will want in on this as well with their version of the thought control chip and GPS locator which will be "for our own protection."
Maybe they (you know, them/they/those people) can finally finish up on that "everything" button so we can all be relaxing on a tropical beach drinking beverages with little umbrellas on top. :o)
Or maybe that can be accomplished with these brain implants a la Matrix.
Ahhhhh, the future looks bright. I just hope I'm not a part of it if brain implants are the way. ;oP
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the best thing about looking into and guessing the future is that we are all equal. Its just that some people get heard, however inane the predictions.
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Silverstein better keep in mind that I wrote a book called "The Zone of Terminus Rex" in 1980 that dealt with this particular subject in depth. My copyright will remain in force for 50 years after my "final" death.

"The Zone" had a sub-plot that involved the transplantation of a "client's head" onto the healthy body of a young donator ("gifter") male. Thus "wealthy" figures of Industry, Politics, and the Military, would be able to live on for a minimum of 300 plus years.

Of course, the "gifter" would often live out his "life" in a sealed two gallon glass jar filled with a nutritional Miracose solution which was pressurized at 3 atmospheres absolute. The "gifter" could not literally speak. But from his "bottomless pit," lip-reading devices, placed strategically around the lab room where he and hundreds more "waited" on shelves for that moment when they would be called to receive a "new body," displayed their "messages and arguments" on the lab room's "Tally-BB" screen.

The catch for the "gifters" was that the new body was often intentionally adulterated, morphed, even cross-linked and bi-species. During their "wait" period the "gifter" heads would often get into horrendous silent screaming arguments and the "tally BB" would relay all "talk" passing between them for all to see and react to. Specific "upset chips" would signal the Miracose Reservoir to add a level one injection of rauwolfia serpentina into those "silent heads" seeming to be unduly upset and disturbed.

As for the "new-bodied clients" they had internal chips implanted to monitor all physiological systems. Routine "scans" of these chips (by the individual and/or his "scanner-hospital") quickly determined the true condition of his/her vital cardiovascular and neurological health.

If an unexpected heart attack or stroke was imminent, microscopic backup pumps, called Feynman-UltraSound-Motors (FUSM), would be alerted to "move out" and engage the pathological enemy. The FUSM's searched out the areas of clot buildup in less than 10 seconds, or they would repair a slight rip or tear in a nerve--often located at that elegant spot
called "The Zone of Terminus Rex"--that microscopic nerve ending in the brain/spinal column connection that all impulses transited to and from. The FUSM's would emit a powerful though tissue-preserving sound blast directly into the developing clot or torn nerve thus literally vaporizing the clot into watery dead cells or fusing the ripped nerve

Remember...it is ALL possible. Look around you....
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Basically, he predicts people will eventually have search functions implanted directly into their brains.

I think I will go back to the library and pen and paper, like Garrett, before I let them start puting things in my Brain
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Did Google mention what they would charge to place this implant in your brain? Or more importantly, what they would charge to place it in everyone elses brain. Reminds me of subliminal activity in the movie theatre or the return of x-files. Alice in wonderland, anyone?
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I am just glad I will be dead by then.
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I am just glad I will be dead by then.
Amen. I won't outlive Google's cookie that expires in 2038. But Sergey, Larry, and Craig will only be around retirement age in 2038, still stuffing unique ID numbers into cookies and, apparently, implementing pay-per-thought.
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Well,

I think that in some centuries humans will develop artificial telepathy and telekinesis skills, and perhaps a global artificial mind connected to all the minds of the planet.

I find reductive the predictions of mr.Silverstein.
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Not to nitpick, Garret, but maybe I was a little closer to the podium at the time. What Craig was describing was a kind of "genetically engieered YEAST", not "beast".

That caused Danny Sullivan to make a crack about what kind of infections such a search tool might infect us with.

Craig's comments seem to be taken with a measure of horror here, but it was very refreshing to see him looking further forward than the next 12 months, when eveyone else seemed to think the only changes in store fore us on the search front would be increased localization and personalization.

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"Hundreds of years from now, the world of search as we know it will be completely redefined. "

Hey guys, I heard in a couple hundred years things will be different.
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"Hundreds of years from now, the world of search as we know it will be completely redefined. "

Hey guys, I heard in a couple hundred years things will be different.
LOL! Yeah, but in web years that's pretty soon...like 10-12 years.

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The mind BoOgles !

Lets get petition for a "Constitutional Amendment" done NOW(!) so as to prevent this happening ... the impending violation of humanity, nature and privacy as we know and enjoy it.

... governments/big-brothers are obviously (logically) advanced into that area with implants of bots and bots of nanobots.

... I even see oogles and oogles of Googles being implanted into their "subjects"

Bill Gates ... you are letting Googles google away !

Next it will be Kanoodles plugged into your noodle !
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It sure sounds like Google's representative Craig Silverstein has visited my site, phrenicea.com - which presents a scenario of the future, perhaps even more bizarre than search pets...!
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A few days ago I read an email on a newsletter of somebody suggesting new interesting books, and I was quite curious about them.
One caught my attention, it was : " The future of ideas."
I never really could have imagined to put together future and ideas.
Because they are something which doesn't have a timing.
How can you remotely think that something like that can have a past, a present or a future?
Nevertheless I liked the association and I guess I would like to read that book.

Some hours later I came to an article about the future of Search engines and somebody was talking about " the future of Search engines".
Those are things supposed to have a future ( or no future).
But the catchy thing was what Silverstein of Google was talking about.
He was forecasting in a near future something like "Search Pets" that were not really pets, but things that would have helped the search of the surfer giving not only results, but going deeply into his life, looking through his mind and explaining for example why his wife's mood in bed was in a certain way.
He went as far as to talk about " brain Implants", which is something that if I, human christian, would have tried to say, everybody would have thought I deserved nothing better than being closed in an Asilum (but in Italy we do not have them anymore, they decided we have only healty people among our population, may be thanks to the mediterranean diet or the Olive oil) Well as we say about a toothpaste, with that mouth he can say whatever he wants and people even ask that you post an answer saying what's your opinion.
That at least was my first impression.
But later on I was looking for the meaning of the Semantic Web.
I looked in my English-Italian Dictionary, but it did't help much.

Semantic was Semantico, and if you do not know what Semantico means, you are at the same point.
I didn't give up and went further with my investigation.
Finally I understood what Semantic Web means, and I was even able to understand what that Silverstein probably was talking about.
The author of the article was doing exactly what the Semantic Web would do.
Putting together words you do not understand and giving as a result something idiotic.

Probably that Silverstein was talking (or meaning) of Search Engines of the future following the Semantic Web.
Not that the idea in itself would be so wrong, it is just the timing.
I think it will take some time before we can reach a moment in which a machine will be able to reason as a human brain, and when it will be possible, it will certainly be useless.
That is, since the computer does what the programmer programs it to do, and since the programmers are human (sometimes intelligent and sometimes not too much) and since the humanity hasn't reached the knowledge of how the brain works, with the perfect syllogism of the semantic Web I reach the Semantical conclusion that it is impossible and won't be possible that in a near future " Search Pets" will be able to say what I feel, just knowing with which foot I got up in the morning.

But of course the only predictable thing about future is that it is unpredictable. And with the perfect syllogism of the Semantic Web we can safely predict that we do not know what the future will be (also the future of ideas).

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Fun!
We can tal about answering mashines in our brain, its look good. I see and work with unicum in Russia, who can make answer like we will have 100year later this talk. Homo Sapiens Sapiens -- anachronism, I'm too...
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P.S. Sorry for my terrible english.
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Google is the one that needs a brain implant. These guys are... trying to dominate computing and access to information online. They are nothing more than a glorified PPC search engine... Billy Gates will turn them into a advertising agency that no one will want to use. I think everyone can see the greed dripping from Google...

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