Should I Report Them?

billc · #1 (**permalink**) 09-15-2007, 03:07 AM

I always check my website stats everyday. Rarely do I ever check IP'S that hit my porn sites, but recently I did and found a Cleveland Municipal School District IP that found my porn site using a very vulgar search pharse. With a who-is I know the persons individual information and have tracking records. If It was where my grand-children go to school I know the avenue from which I would proceed. It's not. So should I proceed and if so how?

Thank You For Your Time

Tubby · #2 (**permalink**) 09-15-2007, 09:02 AM

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"With a who-is I know the persons individual information and have tracking records. If It was where my grand-children go to school I know the avenue from which I would proceed. It's not. So should I proceed and if so how?"

No, you do not know the person. . That is a presumtion.

If you are showing legal content on your site. . Then So much for any users privacy.

WAKE UP! . . leave your users privacy alone.

**mjtaylor** · #3 (**permalink**) 09-15-2007, 09:33 AM

Well, that's an interesting dilemma; if someone *knew* their children were being cared for by someone who has an interest in pedohphlia porn, I would imagine some sort of follow up would feel compelling.

Tubby · #4 (**permalink**) 09-15-2007, 07:07 PM

Yes.... If it were a pedophilia site. or a forum where a user was attempting to engage children.

But legally viewing adult content ?

All men look at this stuff. we have millions of years of evolution behind us that lingers on in our make up. . . it is mostly harmless . . Our laws . . tell us what is acceptable. .

NOT WEBMASTERS

If you have illegal content - then simply 'report yourself '.

**wige** · #5 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 09:49 AM

But it is also impossible to tell if the person who accessed the content was a teacher or administrator (inappropriate use of school resources) or a student (improper filtering or inadequate security). If it was a particularly vulgar phrase, I would be inclined to believe the latter. If students are able to access your content, this is something that the school district might get in trouble for, but reporting it might cause more problems than it is worth - personally I would just block the offending IP and move on. If you report it to the school, they likely don't have the resources to track down the offender (they would have blocked the traffic if they did) but it might give them a wakeup call that they need to re-evaluate their network security.

yougottakickalittle · #6 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 03:42 PM

It is not your responsibility to be the net-nanny for your customers, plain and simple. Entering a search term into a search engine is not a crime. If the school has logs of computer activity, they're just as capable of detecting this and taking care of any potential problem.

Some people and their lack of business sense and respect for others really amaze me. Why on earth would you want to create a sense of fear or concern among your customers???

flsurfkarma · #7 (**permalink**) 09-21-2007, 01:30 AM

I've used proxy ip's from schools before to do stuff I didn't want people knowing who I was... Schools are some of the most open networks. So how do you know it was in fact someone from the school?

Martinscholes · #8 (**permalink**) 09-26-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by billc

I always check my website stats everyday. Rarely do I ever check IP'S that hit my porn sites, but recently I did and found a Cleveland Municipal School District IP that found my porn site using a very vulgar search pharse. With a who-is I know the persons individual information and have tracking records. If It was where my grand-children go to school I know the avenue from which I would proceed. It's not. So should I proceed and if so how?

Thank You For Your Time

If you rarely check, how many other schools visit your sites?

As it is a school district would who-is really give you any valid and valuable information?

If you are concerned report it to the school district.

visio · #9 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 07:38 PM

block the IP.
as long as your content is legal, the privacy of your viewers/customers is paramount.
And dont forget, you are a webmaster not a policeman.

khurramali · #10 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 10:48 PM

IMO: all public school should use OpenDNS | Providing A Safer And Faster Internet

All parents who are concerned about protecting their children from the noise on the internet should use it as well.

You can proceed by getting in touch with the schools your children / grandchildren goto and ask them that they are not doing enough to protect them while they are using their lab computers, if the users are children.

But if they are teachers / administrators, then the privacy versus the urge to do something about it issue must be decided by you keeping in mind the comments by all the other members here.

tamecrow · #11 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by visio

block the IP.
as long as your content is legal, the privacy of your viewers/customers is paramount.
And dont forget, you are a webmaster not a policeman.

I'd have to agree with this. It'd be wrong to take the moral high ground in this situation, but it certainly needs to be looked at (especially if this sort of material is being viewed in a school). Block the IP and keep an eye on the stats.

khurramali · #12 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 09:03 PM

blocking the ip will not be enough, as there are millions of other p*rn website on the internet.

So the children or whoever it is, will just go to other sites.

the best solution is OpenDNS | Providing A Safer And Faster Internet , try it out, i can't imagine any computer in a home with children without it.

What we need is a to build a consensus and push the schools to implement a solution like OpenDNS | Providing A Safer And Faster Internet or a solution program like Astaro Internet Security - Provider of Unified Threat Management Solutions Which Protect Against Hackers, Spyware, Phishing and Virus Attacks, Worms and Spam.

tamecrow · #13 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 05:06 AM

Khurram - I think you misunderstood the OP's point. He runs a porn website which has been accessed by a school's IP address. He's not connected to the school in any way and wondered if he had a moral obligation to inform the school that either a pupil or member of staff had been accessing unsuitable material within the school.

khurramali · #14 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 09:04 AM

The issue is a moral one. Privacy and all ethical considerations are there.

IMO: He should contact the school with the info that he has and let them decide what they want to do.

on a lighter note: As this information has surfaced, so we as parents should do something about the issue, right.

So every parent reading this should, if he agrees with me, that family and religion is important; and that our children should be protected, contact the local school in their area and ask them to make sure, that our children are protected, when using the school computer lab.

And parents at home can also use OpenDNS | Providing A Safer And Faster Internet to secure their children.

kgun · #15 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mjtaylor

Well, that's an interesting dilemma; if someone *knew* their children were being cared for by someone who has an interest in pedohphlia porn, I would imagine some sort of follow up would feel compelling.

Could that be a police man?

To be earnest, killing people is less worse for some extremists in many countries than looking at porn sites.

Pedophilia, child and animal pornography is illegal in Norway. Smoking drugs is legal in Holland and may be Spain.

My advice: Don't play police.

As told above, you can not be punished for your thoughts, and a none executed crime, at least in Norway. It is as far as I know and told above, not illegal to put in a search term in a SE. It is not illegal to link to such a site either. Google earns tons (where have you been kgun?) of money of AdSense / AdWords on porn sites. Selling porn is not illegal in Norway. As usual it is big business in the USA.

P.S. While I worked in the Central Bank of Norway, some people planned a rob at the bank through the sewerage. They were caught on the planning stadium and not punished. Note, it was the central and not an ordinary bank. If they had been able to enter the room with the money, I think they would have been surprised, e.g. coloured luminous, but that is another story.

cw1865 · #16 (**permalink**) 11-15-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kgun

My advice: Don't play police.

Excellent advice. All you know is that somebody was searching for something that disturbed you.

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Originally Posted by kgun

As told above, you can not be punished for your thoughts, and a none executed crime, at least in Norway. It is as far as I know and told above, not illegal to put in a search term in a SE. It is not illegal to link to such a site either. Google earns tons (where have you been kgun?) of money of AdSense / AdWords on porn sites. Selling porn is not illegal in Norway. As usual it is big business in the USA.

While school is not an appropriate forum for porn, it is the school district that should be monitoring internet usage.

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Originally Posted by kgun

P.S. While I worked in the Central Bank of Norway, some people planned a rob at the bank through the sewerage. They were caught on the planning stadium and not punished. Note, it was the central and not an ordinary bank. If they had been able to enter the room with the money, I think they would have been surprised, e.g. coloured luminous, but that is another story.

Thanks for the tip kgun!

kgun · #17 (**permalink**) 11-15-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cw1865

Excellent advice. All you know is that somebody was searching for something that disturbed you.

Block the Ip and move on.

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Originally Posted by cw1865

While school is not an appropriate forum for porn, it is the school district that should be monitoring internet usage.

Every keystroke can be tracked and logged.

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Originally Posted by cw1865

Thanks for the tip kgun!

And the money automatically destroyed, since it is only paper as long as it is in a Central Bank. It is not paper in a private bank unless it is stored there for the Central Bank. Coins are metal, but difficult to wear in any amount, worth the work.

As an economist you should know that. And the watch that sit in the middle of the building, with cameras all over the building, can hit a button and miltary helicopters are there in minutes.

I think this is outdated since I left the Bank in december 1996.

The US Central Bank should be more secure.

mryang · #18 (**permalink**) 11-16-2007, 12:14 PM

You just risk sturring up a nest of hornets if you report it, you could even end up getting accused of promoting your porn sites to the scholl if you even send them an email so like others have said block the IP and move on.