MSN, Google' s Dr. Lee Lawsuit SERPs Vastly Different

jmiller · #1 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 10:11 AM

As everybody in the Google and Microsoft camps has been Kai-Fu fighting, the logical thing to relay to you this morning was the report that Google anticipated a lawsuit and was prepared to pay Dr. Lee, lawsuit or not, work or not, for up to a year. But as I was searching for these court documents, I came across something very interesting. MSN and Google are delivering search results about the case with opposing messages. Hmmmmm.

If you’ve read the Dogpile report that search results across the major search engines only had a 1.1% overlap, then it is not surprising that results may vary. But this variation is somewhat suspect when you consider the players involved.

When the search terms “Dr. Lee court documents Google Microsoft” were entered into Google, the majority of results were emblazoned with the phrase “lawsuit is a charade” in large comforting letters, repeated again again again. That’s interesting, I thought. I wonder what MSN returns?

As I suspected, there was one link, in the middle, with the “charade” reference. The rest were to the tune of “Microsoft wins round against Google,” and “Ex-Microsoft Exec Barred From Google Job.”

Could this be a coincidence? Or is this brilliant PR algorithmic manipulation?

Next, I did what any fair researcher would do, I check Yahoo! for a control group. Yahoo! seemed fairly balanced on the matter and delivered the most current listings—including #3 result for WebProWorld discussion, thank you.

Here are the screen caps, submitted for your perusal.

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kgun · #2 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 10:35 AM

Download this document.

There is relation between speech recgognition and the latest search techniques that you write about in another post.

www.dodsbir.net/sttr03/word/af03.doc

Search term:
Latent Semantic Indexing and Term Vectoring

and not
Latent SYmantic Indexing and Term Vectoring

as written in that post.

Did he work with speech reckognition? Then that is related to the fronttechnology in search.

Kjell Gunnar Bleivik
http://www.multifinanceit.com/
http://www.blognorway.com/

kgun · #3 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 11:39 AM

Look at the

"AdWords" when you search for

"Latent Semantic Indexing"

Work at Google?

What about an intranet?

It reminds me of when I bougt books at Amazon. Based on the preceeding books I bought, their database system proposed "The Intelligent Investor" as the next Buy. Problem, it was my last buy from "Traders Library".

Should I contact my son that loves Harry Potter (reads them in Norwegian, English and German) and Google that is going to study psychology?

Kjell Gunnar Bleivik
http://www.multifinanceit.com/
http://www.blognorway.com/

ADAM Web Design · #4 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 01:57 PM

I don't think it necessarily is a case of algorithmic manipulation, since in both cases the top 10 are news sources and there is a slight overlap between them.

I'd be more apt to think it was algorithmic manipulation if either of the engines had sites posting opinions supporting their respective stances in the top 10. (e.g. a Linux geek ranting about how Microsoft is evil in the top 10).

kgun · #5 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 03:11 PM

one of your sites is in French. What is the result when you make the search in French?

P.S. My son got top rating in French. I told him to read Harry Potter in French too, but he said he is not clever enough.

Kjell Gunnar Bleivik
http://www.multifinanceit.com/
http://www.blognorway.com/

jmiller · #6 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 03:41 PM

Je reqret parler, pour cette page, il y a non Francais! S'il vous plait, ne parlez pas des Francais persons, je ne les aime pas, et ils sont tres mal. Je suis tres drol, non? A la prochaine.

wrmineo · #7 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmiller

Je reqret parler, pour cette page, il y a non Francais! S'il vous plait, ne parlez pas des Francais persons, je ne les aime pas, et ils sont tres mal. Je suis tres drol, non? A la prochaine.

What did you just call me?!?! :)

Ma famille immigrated de France aux Etats-Unis en 1856. Mon nom de famille était "Mignot" écrit ... play nice :)

ADAM Web Design · #8 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 03:56 PM

I did a site in French?

I've got Spanish and Dutch represented. French is a new one to me.

jmiller · #9 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 03:58 PM

in all fairness, I too, being an American mutt, have sufficient Gaul blood..Grandmother's maiden name was LeMaster, immigrating in the 18th century from Nancy, France. But I prefer the heated Irish blood of my mother's side, much more fun and they never play nice...besides, if the events of the last millenium had never come to pass, I'd be an Irish warrior prince--daggum Normans, you know?

Bon Chance Senior Mignot. Merci.

kgun · #10 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 05:07 PM

"The web is more a social creation than a technical one. I designed it for a social effect — to help people work together — and not as a technical toy. The ultimate goal of the Web is to support and improve our weblike existence in the world. We clump into families, associations, and companies. We develop trust across the miles and distrust around the corner".

—Tim Berners-Lee, Weaving The Web

Kgun

dburdon · #11 (**permalink**) 08-04-2005, 05:46 PM

Kjell,

never trust an Englishman with a double barrelled name. Tim Berners-Lee, for all his insight, carries the mark of a class conscious social climber.

My mother's maiden name was Lee. And her family were happy bog dwellers from Ireland. Did TBL really invent the internet? Or was it Al Gore?