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03-15-2007, 06:46 PM
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a website i have completed a while back is now up and running in Dmoz, its for sure open again
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03-20-2007, 06:45 PM
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Not your father's Oldsmobile (I mean DMOZ)
It only took a few months of waiting and multiple submissions to figure out who was the editor of my narrowly-focused category - my competitor! This site owner out of Germany has 'aced' the game: presenting herself and her site as a moral authority, as a "watchdog" (who appointed her? -she has no credentials other than owning a website offering the same service) - will not give positive ratings on this "watchdog" site to competitors, as well as only allowing her own affiliated sites on DMOZ.
This is all because of the importance of cross-linking, which unfairly favors individuals who are good at working the process, as well as those deeply entrenched, to the disadvantage of newer sites.
"Used to be"- say, ten years ago, the web was altruistic enought that you could expect non-biased editing even from your competition. Ain't that way anymore.
Yes, it IS important that DMOZ clean up their act, as long as Google x-refs with them and AOL and MSN x-ref off of Google. These bigger companies should recognize what's really going on here and downgrade their recognition of this previously-good, currently-abused resource.
It's hard enough to build a webiste, do customer service, make a profit and do so fairly without all this institutionalized crap that nobody watches. Julie Larson [Edited by Mod Webnauts. Self promotion is not allowed here at WPW]
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03-23-2007, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by topboy
I have been waiting a long time for dmoz to list my site TopHatSolutions
its not happining
anyone else experience this
and is it true that alexa dont list you unless until your listed on dmoz???
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No, that's not true. I have sites listed in alexa that I never submitted to dmoz.
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04-23-2007, 11:16 PM
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Correction: DMOZ is open, up and running!
I want to correct an earlier post of mine - true at the time, but things have changed. I have found out that DMOZ had a true, critical failure in the fall. Although they were not able to put in new sites, they were able to staticly post the public pages they did have. In my own case, I had applied to edit many months ago, and once the site was up and running again, my application was approved and I have insight into the current operations - I can tell you that there are many, many new editors, all of whom are excited to be involved and are actively entering valid sites. The guidelines provide that they include sites that enhance the websurfer's experience through content and credibility, and I can tell you they (we!) are doing that actively now. girlfriday@[Edited by Mod Webnauts. Self promotion is not allowed here at WPW]
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05-10-2007, 07:53 PM
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Can anyone tell me if there is a way to overcome the listing issues with DMOZ. I tried to list my websites for www.moneymatchmaker.com and www.endowment-compensation-moneymatchmaker.co.uk some months ago, as I was advised to do this before they were complete as it would take some time, but they are yet to appear.
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05-11-2007, 04:18 AM
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What do you think any directory (DMOZ or other) should do with sites that deliberatly flout the submission guidelines that submitters agree to when they submit a site?
Do you remember what you agreed to:
"Please take a moment to review some of our submission policies and instructions. It is important that you understand these policies. Failure to understand and follow these policies generally will result in the rejection of a submission. "
"Do not submit sites "under construction."
"Multiple submissions of the same or related sites may result in the exclusion and/or deletion of those and all affiliated sites. "
You submitted a site under construction and you submitted two related sites .... not a good idea if you want to be listed.
Both would also probably be considered "lead generator" sites, so probably would not be listable anyway.
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05-12-2007, 09:17 AM
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Patience & persistence
Patience may pay in this regard but is it worth the wait? Hard to say anymore.
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05-16-2007, 01:27 PM
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I actually tried to become an editor for DMOZ in the field that I’m most experienced in - phpBB and bulletin boards.
But was rejected... for unknown reasons. :-/
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05-16-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Highway of Life
I actually tried to become an editor for DMOZ in the field that I’m most experienced in - phpBB and bulletin boards.
But was rejected... for unknown reasons. :-/
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The reasons would have been in the email you were sent.
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05-16-2007, 09:16 PM
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Yes, I got the email, but it was something like "due to the number of requests we get, we are not able to provide a reason for your editor request being denied, below are a number of factors that may contribute to the decision".
And they list 6 reasons the application could have been denied.
-- I lost the email (deleted it most likely) or I would paste it here. But I didn’t see any need to pursue it... they obviously didn’t want an editor in those categories.
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05-17-2007, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Highway of Life
And they list 6 reasons the application could have been denied.
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Then it would have been one or more of those 6 reasons as to why your application was rejected.
The most common reason is that the example sites and example site descriptions were not guideline compliant. Imagine the harm done to any directory if an editor can not follow the guidelines, regardless of how much expertise they have in the subject of the category. Imagine how much work would be created for other editors to go around and undo the mistakes.
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05-20-2007, 06:50 AM
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Re: DMOZ Isn’t Open After All
Thanks for your thoughts. In reply, the site was constructed without any areas being under construction. Although the sites were fairly slim, they were intact and it is only additional content pages that have been added since.
The site www.moneymatchmaker.com offers a vast array of useful information across the full spectrum of financial services in the UK and is not merely a lead generator, but does offer true and proper help and advice as well as execution only services, so I fail to see how it is not beneficial to the consumer.
Mark
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05-23-2007, 01:57 AM
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Re: DMOZ Isn’t Open After All
I m still waiting for my websites listings at Dmoz, Its like it's dead now...
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05-23-2007, 04:24 AM
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Re: DMOZ Isn’t Open After All
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I m still waiting for my websites listings at Dmoz, Its like it's dead now...
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its dead because your sites are not listed? Several 1000 sites were listed last month. That far from being dead. That makes DMOZ the fastest growing directory.
Are you talking about the sites in your signature? Did you read the guidelines about submitting related sites that you agreed to when submitting a site?? How do you think any directory should treat sbmissions from someone who deliberatly flounts the guidelines?
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05-24-2007, 03:49 AM
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Re: DMOZ Isn’t Open After All
i have understand your matter you said excellent
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05-26-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: DMOZ Isn’t Open After All
Does anyone know if DMOZ weight still makes a difference (SEO)? And are the editors still as swamped or are listings moving more quickly now (since the crash last year)?
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05-27-2007, 02:26 AM
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Re: DMOZ Isn’t Open After All
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Does anyone know if DMOZ weight still makes a difference (SEO)?
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Its just a link like any other link. It will help your SEO like any other link.
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And are the editors still as swamped or are listings moving more quickly now
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Depends if you think DMOZ is a link listing service for webmasters or not. Editors do not see their jobs as processing submissions. Submissions are just one way (the most ineffiicent way) for an editor to do their jobs. Some editors choose to totally ignore the submitted sites and use other sources (eg via Google search) to find sites to list. So, as such, the editors are never really "swamped". DMOZ is listing more than several 1000 sites a months now (of which only about half were ever submitted in the first place), so yes listings are moving making DMOZ still the fastest growing directory.
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05-27-2007, 06:17 PM
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Re: DMOZ Isn’t Open After All
I tried DMOZ for the last month nothing yet 
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05-27-2007, 06:52 PM
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Re: DMOZ Isn’t Open After All
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I tried DMOZ for the last month nothing yet 
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If you are talking about the site in your signature, then you might want to fix it before an editor reviews it. I just did two searchs and both timed out. If an editor did that, there is a good chance it would be deleted (at worst) or left for another review another day (at best).
WHen you say "tried", how many times have you tried?
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05-29-2007, 10:23 PM
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Re: DMOZ Isn’t Open After All
I applied for inclusion some months ago in DMOZ, I will see if they have included any of my sites, I have certainly heard nothing from them directly.
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05-30-2007, 03:56 AM
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