Check with your ISP - they still up for me.

IF DMOZ was down there would be threads of glee at every SEO forum ... and I have not seen any.

CBP

"... human prejudices can factor into the approval process, something that is hard to overcome if you are considering submitting to a competitive category."

No kidding about the human prejudices! I have tried to get some of my websites into this absurd directory, and have come to the conclusion that the entire directory is being used to champion the casues of, and the pocketbooks of the higher editors in the clan. It's become a private directory for the sole benefit of a few select editors. They promote their own affiliate sites there, and their personal businesses as well. It's a joke at best.

Many good internet marketers with high integrity have tried to be editors, but every category is dominated by hierarchical editors that disagree with every submission and site approval of the new editors. Until the system changes, it is a useless and laughable activity to be listed there. If I have any listings left there it is a miracle. I never see it on my logs, so I assume they have knocked me out long ago.

Once a higher editor disagrees with a new editor's submissions, the new editor is deleted with no recourse. It is a sham and this type of activity goes on with impunity.

I implore the big search engines that use DMOZ to put pressure on the editorial staff to fix the problems, or threaten to drop the index altogether. That is the only way this dishonest mess will ever get fixed. They need to get some good editors to work on the index, category by category. There is money being made here somewhere, so that money needs to be withheld until they fix it for the better.

DMOZ is a disgrace at the current time.

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Check this out:

http://www.threadwatch.org/node/4310

Amazing how many people got sucked in by that! It was a hoax .... it was someone posting as Hutcheson just create a stir!!!

Here is his denial:
http://resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41233

CBP

Sorry, it seemed really very real. Very plausible.
I guess it must express the felling out there.

I think it was "cbp" who told us were all labouring in the misunderstanding that DMOZ is a submission service. Well, I rebuilt my site some 9 months ago, then told DMOZ the new URLs so they could change the link to the new pages (which are, by the way, of exactly the same content, just different design and URL). Now, its been 9 months and DMOZ still links to the old pages. Can you tell me how on earth this benefits anyone? I would like to expect a reasonably quick response (even 3 months would do) when the information they list for my site is wrong. Such is my long-held disenchantment with them, that I fully expect them to just delete the pages anyway when the finally get round to updating the category.

Why would DMOZ want to bother changing the link if the content is still at the old pages?. You need to take the old pages down or put a redirect in place -- otherwise DMOZ has no way of knowing that you are not some sort of scammer trying to preted you own the old site and get them to change the links (I am sure you are not - but without a redirect in place, DMOZ has no way of knowing).

The solution to this is in YOUR hands - don't blame DMOZ.

CBP

This kind of reminds me when I was a kid at a party with a pinata and when it was broken open, free candy would go everywhere and kids would be all over the place scarfing it up like crazy.

Some kids were slow and wouldn't get any. They would pout or cry.

Of course there was always a mom that would take candy away from the other kids and give it to them.

DMOZ ain't nobody's momma! :)

Submit it and forget it.

I agree with the "Submit and Forget" line of thinking. But what good is a directory if it is biased and out of date? Both of these water down the results at best and render them utterly useless at worst. So again, what is the point of organized information that is narrowed, biased, out of date or simply not available anymore?

Of the 20+ sites I have submitted in the past two years only five have been added to the directory.

All of our clients are real businesses serving real customers, in person. We also have several non-profit clients who have not been added to the directory.

Submit it and forget it, sure. But we have decided our efforts are better invested into SEO and submission to industry specific directories. So forget about dmoz while you're at it.

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Hiya,

DMOZ isn't really important in a way it is a directory, you got a lot like JAYDE, ZEAL, LOOKSMART anyway.

But i will always advice anybody to submit its website on DMOZ. In one year i made a test, DMOZ and the other directories gave me 3000 MSN links and 1200 yahoo link without doing anything.

My PR changed from 0 to 3 in a year. Personnal site...

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donaldb wrote Yes, I see. You don't see it there, and you think it is because I have failed to submit it, yes I see. You don't see it listed because it was rejected sometime after submitting it back in 2003, 2004 and 2005. At the time (03-04) we were the ONLY developer in our area with website development as the core and focus of our business. And as you well know it is not there, nor will it ever be there.

You have proved my point that having a good site, submitting to the correct area and waiting will not get you in. Oh yeah, and the index of NOT FOR WEBMASTERS.

And the notion that the directory is not there for webmasterS may be true, but honestly, how many average joe users are submitting sites to the index? Good sites? The only people that really know where a site should be listed is the owner/ webmaster.

So, lets say that for the sake of this post that webmasters should stop submitting their sites, I mean, it's not for webmaster according to cbp. Well then, who the heck is going to submit sites for review and incusion? NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT NEW SITES WHEN THEY ARE NEW! Heck, the average joe surffer is just now learning that they can get geo targted results from G. What on earth makes people think that this group of users should and is responsibile for submitting sites to DMOZ?

People can say what they want but MY experiences with DMOZ are MY reality.

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Editors go looking for sites! I edit a couple of very small categories and get very few submissions. The majority of the sites in those categories, I found and added.

slideri812, you got some good advice above - submit your site to the Regional category, in addition to the web design category. It’s allowed and a regional listing can be very helpful if you’re looking for local clients.

I tried several time in a year for my sites but till nothing to be added. And yill learn how to get sites enlisted :)

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If you are talking about the sites in your signture:

1. Neither have been reviewed yet. When you resubmit (I tried several time in a year ) all you are doing is over writing the prvious submission with the new date, so you keep moving your site to the back of the list if the category editor decides to use the pool of suggested sites and sorts them by date (most do) - you have been putting yourself at a disadvantage.

2. As both sites are on the same/similar topic, did you read what you agreed to when you submitted: CBP

It goes back a long way cbp, but for the record, I can access DMOZ again (Thank god!).

It turns out that being on broadband 24/7, chances are the IP address that had been allocated to me by my ISP may have been blocked (because of someone else's actions, I do not know).

But thanks for your help and suggestions.

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I also submitted my site (signature) back in November 2003, I believe. When it didn't appear a few months later, I followed the DMOZ guidlelines and posted on the board, etc. I did get a response from an editor who said something about it taking a bit longer, or similar - I can't remember exactly what. I replied, thanking her for her follow-up, and waited, and have ever since. Sometime about mid last year I resubmitted, figuring things were well past appearing by then, but still nothing. I can't find anyting wrong with the site, it's certainly not in a category that's overdone - ecotourism - and the service that we offer is not offered by virtually anyone else, as it's a specialty field with specialty knowledge. Our clients generally are very appreciative of it when they find us, and we have a very high conversion rate, so we must be what some people want. We have all the right things - emails, address, 800 number that gets answered etc. No broken links, spammy anything, and lots of good information. The thing that concerns me to a large degree is not jsut not getting in, but the complete lack of information as to why. If there is something that DMOZ requires of the site that we're not doing, we'd be happy to either do it, or in the slim chance that it's something we don't want to do, then accept that. But just not having any idea is very frustrating.

We know we offer a useful and unique service to people looking for our expertise, and don't understand why we're not a good fit for DMOZ.

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Does anyone use DMOZ to search for sites anymore or is it a just a webmaster’s requisite task on a to do list? This dinosaur would've been extinct three years ago if PR 9 were properly halved to reflect its dusty cobwebs. Think of the myriad search alternatives that have been developed since DMOZ was relevant - Google, delicious, other tagging sites, even MSN search to name a few - and the DMOZ begins to looks as untended and overgrown as the DMZ that separates Korea from North Korea. ;)

People have been predicting DMOZ's demise for a long time - and that's fine. Plenty of people use it as a resource to find information when the SEs fail. Webmasters use it to gain exposure or to flesh out their own website's directories. There will always be some people who find an open, human edited directory useful, there will always be editors who enjoy editing for their own reasons.

The day DMOZ "dies" is the day I get the most recent RDF dump and maintain my own version.

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The last time I did a detailed analysis of traffic to one of my sites, about 0.5% of it came from DMOZ or a clone (eg Google Directory) -- that equated as to about 150 visitors a week .... as they site is in a deep category, that measns to me that a lot of poeple a using DMOZ.

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