Microsoft to Launch New Search Technology

TrafficProducer · #1 (**permalink**) 05-30-2004, 12:49 PM

Microsoft to Launch New Search Technology

(Is this the end for Google?)

http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D82QUUKG4.html

Mel · #2 (**permalink**) 05-31-2004, 05:39 AM

While this is not exactly something new, I believe that there will be difficulties in attempting public search of private records. I hope and believe that my own system is secure against such encroachment, but the moment that an unauthorized individual or company starts using MSN technology to search my emails, network competers or anything else that I have not published publically will be the moment I turn the problem over to the legal eagles.

Will this be the end of Google?

Don't bet on it. Google already have thier Googlemail system up and running in a limited way, but I shudder at the idea that the price of using such a system is that you have to be subject to still more pointless ads that you neither want nor need.

I have no doubt that MSN will come up with a very competent search engine, but predict that it will be lacking one thing that money can't buy

Consumer trust and loyalty.

Dave Hawley · #3 (**permalink**) 05-31-2004, 08:07 AM

While I believe that Google's search technology will always be one-up on M$, Micr$oft have great marketing. Unfortunately good marketing often beats a better product.

However, Google are a very smart business, just maybe all those $$$ from their upcoming float will help them market their excellent SE and services to the world!

I have my heart and money on Google!

spidermonkey · #4 (**permalink**) 05-31-2004, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Hawley

I have my heart and money on Google!

More fool you!

Never put all your eggs in one basket.

Turn your flameme-thrower up to kill Dave - I'm expecting it!

Regards

Mike

Dave Hawley · #5 (**permalink**) 05-31-2004, 09:37 PM

Quote:

More fool you!
Never put all your eggs in one basket.

errm I think the fool is you. What on earth lead you to believe I have all my eggs in one basket??? Surely you didn't take "I have my heart and money on Google!" literally?

spidermonkey · #6 (**permalink**) 06-01-2004, 07:35 AM

Sorry Dave,

I will try to take your comments less literally in future.

As I have posted into this thread I guess I should get on topic...

I think Microsoft will have to win a lot of lawsuits if they are going to fulfil all their hopes for "Longhorn". In the meantime I am hoping they will give preferential serps on their new search engine to sites hosted on Windows servers (easy for an algo to test for) as that would help me.

It will always be the case that Microsoft will eventally be able to "bully" users into adopting the new operating system by withdrawing support for previous Windows versions.

It's going to be interesting, but I doubt even Microsoft expect to have it all their own way.

Mike

Dave Hawley · #7 (**permalink**) 06-01-2004, 07:52 AM

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In the meantime I am hoping they will give preferential serps on their new search engine to sites hosted on Windows servers (easy for an algo to test for) as that would help me.

Wishfull thinking :) As with all SE I think they will be looking after searchers over Webmasters.

ADAM Web Design · #8 (**permalink**) 06-02-2004, 09:58 PM

Personally, I'd like to see someone other than MSN, Google, or Yahoo! become a player in all of this. My darkhorse heart and money were on All the Web before the buyout; they really did have a great engine going. They still do, but it's not quite the same as it once was.

Anyway, I digress. On to my own thoughts on Microsoft's game plan:

First of all, I don't think that MS "bullies" users into buying new versions of software simply by withdrawing support for older versions. Companies do that all the time, as software becomes old or obsolete.

Quick, everyone who downloaded a patch released for WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS that was created in the last month raise your hands. Now, let's count the hands...ummm...er...0. Why? Because it's not cost-effective for the Corel corporation to keep supporting the software long after its expiry date has been reached.

Second, this is not the "end" for Google, but it will put search on a much more level playing field than it has been, which is way overdue. MSN's already made some significant improvements to their engine just by dropping Looksmart. The results for many keywords and phrases appear similar, if not exactly the same, across the board with most other engines.

Google, on the other hand, continues to bend over and stick its head between its legs for a self-examination of its own colon by constantly updating the algorithm and allowing more and more topically irrelevant results and obvious unethical manipulations in. Take this for example:

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid...=I90+Ringtones

So yeah, I'm all for what they're doing and I expect that when they tie offline and online search together, that will really raise the bar and force companies like Google to lift their heads back up above their shoulders and really look at what's going on.

I see Microsoft dominating this market, but I also see it being smaller than everyone expects. Due to privacy issues and general resistance to technology among average users and the excessively paranoid, use of this technology will likely take 5-10 years to really take off, if it does at all.

It's a good thing to know about, but I'm not going to alter any of my marketing strategies to focus on it anytime soon.

sparshpolly · #9 (**permalink**) 06-02-2004, 10:49 PM

Hi all,

Quote:

Traffic Producer said
(Is this the end for Google?)

Well something that begins has to end one day, and to speak for the end of google , I dont see so in the near future. Google is powered by young, experienced and creative minds and dont forget their Ad Sense program is doing better than the big giants of the advertising industries.

I personally feel wherever Ad Sense code is placed , Google is able to index that page faster and in a much detailed way.

Ans speaking about Microsoft. We all know how they have always compelled their users worldwide to adopt their new Operating Systems and in turn their online technologies. No doubt the MSN search system is going to be good but I doubt wether it will be able to beat google (which already has such a large audience)atleast for the next 2 to 3 years.