ranked #1 for a word no one knows

[janeth]

Most businesses understand that the search engines can bring a lot of quality traffic to there website. At a fraction of the cost of what it would take to market the website else where.

But I see a lot of people that think just because they got ranked for one key word like JimBosflowers that is all they need to do. Then to really finish it off they find some forms and brag about being ranked #1 for some word that no one would ever search for.

[simonm]

And to think I came in today to be really busy - the last thing I should have done is look at webproworld!

I totally agree! I get no end of companies trying to sell me all sorts of pointless presence on web search engines - including the standard - "you are not listed on all 50,000 search engines!" I've actually tried some, but it boils down to:
You need a real listing on a real search engine for a search term that people look for that relates to your products or services!. Not only that but the title and description shown on the search listing must be right as well!

Try a search for 'water audit' on google - the second entry is mine - after about 5 iterations, that's surly a classic of what a search entry should be! The adwords which is also mine tellls me how many people do the search, my stats then tell me how effective the list entry is!

[minstrel]

I agree absolutely: there is no point whatsoever in trying to be number one unless it's for a word or phrase that a potential client is actually going to enter into a search box.

A case in point is a contributor to WebProWorld, carbonize -- as he points out, he is ranked number one for searches for "carbonize" :-)

I, on the other hand, do not appear even in the first 100 results for "minstrel". I'm thinking of hiring carbonize to do something about that... ;-)

[mtheory]

Originally Posted by minstrel

I agree absolutely: there is no point whatsoever in trying to be number one unless it's for a word or phrase that a potential client is actually going to enter into a search box.

A case in point is a contributor to WebProWorld, carbonize -- as he points out, he is ranked number one for searches for "carbonize" :-)

I, on the other hand, do not appear even in the first 100 results for "minstrel". I'm thinking of hiring carbonize to do something about that... ;-)

Taking your point one step further. Is it likely that a person will enter the word "carbonize" in hope of finding what is contained on that site. No.

The definition of carbonize:
Main Entry: car·bon·ize
Pronunciation: 'kär-b&-"nIz
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -ized; -iz·ing
Date: 1806
transitive senses
1 : to convert into carbon or a carbonic residue
2 : CARBURIZE 1
intransitive senses : to become carbonized : CHAR


The site in no way pertains to carbonize. Making the ranking moot.

The technology of the internet, as miraculou as it may seem, has one major flaw. It lacks proper integration with humanity. Automated technology has cluttered search engines with information that is all to often deceiving and difficult to decypher.

Even the word "search" implies a means by which there is no gaurantee of an end. I'd like to see someone create a "Here's what you are looking for." engine.

[minstrel]

Originally Posted by computermark

Taking your point one step further. Is it likely that a person will enter the word "carbonize" in hope of finding what is contained on that site. No.

I'm pretty certain that carbonize meant his comment to be satirical or humorous. Even if I'm wrong about that, my comment was definitely intended as humour.

Automated technology has cluttered search engines with information that is all to often deceiving and difficult to decipher. Even the word "search" implies a means by which there is no gaurantee of an end. I'd like to see someone create a "Here's what you are looking for." engine.

Well, I agree that learning how to use search engines to locate meaningful and accurate information takes some time, but it is a wonderful tool for research if you are (1) patient, (2) critical in what you read, and (3) willing to take the time to learn what words and phrases to enter that will locate the information you want.

[carbonize]

lol. Damn I'm so good even my signature can spark debate. Yes my current signature is indeed a sideswipe at all the people on this forum who's signatures state they are number x on google. They never say what they are ranked number x for though.

No the term carbonize has nothing to do with my sites content, but then could you define my sites content in a single word? My stats have shown that some people have indeed come to my site after doing a search for either carbonize or carbonize.co.

The main reason I am number 1 in a search for carbonize is that I use my ID as the signature in my blogs, the term is in my title tag, and the word carbonize will be in the text used in links to my site. It helps to have a lot of people linking to me and using the term carbonize in the link text even if they are only linking to my adult smileys page. A quick look at the refers list on the left of my site shows you just how may people have linked to me.

Of course minstrel's site does not appear in a search for minstrel as his personal site does not use that term.

Hi I'm Dr. Minstrel, just lie down on the couch and tell me about your fixation on your mother/father (delete depending on if you follow Freud or Jung)

[minstrel]

Originally Posted by carbonize

Of course minstrel's site does not appear in a search for minstrel as his personal site does not use that term.

LOL! Now that was funny!