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Old 03-08-2005, 10:25 AM
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Hiya - I have just downloaded the mozilla browser, but I was wondering how to install the plug-in that plays flash?

Also, where some of my pages look fine in it, they look skewif in others!

http://www.codestone.net/codestonenew

If you look at the normal pages, the top menu is positioned very precisely, but on the privacy, sitemap and terms of use, it moves, even though the style shhet is exactly the same except for the colours!

Ther is also a very strange line directly underneath the header on these pages - any ideas why it does this/how to fix it?! The pages are exactly the same as the ones that work except for colours on the styles applied!

These things are all fine in ie - its the first time I have tested it in another browser.

Thank you for your help in advance
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:18 AM
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Hi Pagetta!

Most likely your problem is this: the chosen DTD throws IE6 into quirks mode, and so it uses the old "broken box model" of IE 5, and the pages get rendered different.

Information about doctypes can be found at "Activating the Right Layout Mode Using the Doctype Declaration"
http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/

Information about IE's broken box model:
http://glish.com/css/hacks.asp

Note that the hack will most likely work with IE5, with IE6 you *need* a proper DTD.

As for testing with other browsers: I recommend - as always - "code for firefox, debug for ie". Since IE has the worst support of CSS2 of all browsers, it is more easy to write for compliant browsers (ie. mozille, ff et al) and the get it tweaked for the ONE non-compliant browser. Usually, clean validated code which displays well in ff/mozilla requires no or very few adaptation for IE. The other way round it is just more complicated: You have to force compliant rendering engines to adapt to the quirks of IE ...

hth,
Alex

BTW: If you are going to use FF, get the developer toolbar ... it is an invaluable tool.
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Old 03-09-2005, 10:17 AM
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You can download the Flash plug-in from Macromedia's site. Just go to the downloads section and you should see the Flash player in there. Download. Install. Flash.

And faglork (damn you for having a name that I can't shorten! :D) is right. The web developer toolbar that you can get (in the form of an extension) is probably the single most used tool I have. It's unbelievable.[/quote]
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Old 03-09-2005, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GuyLaDouche
(damn you for having a name that I can't shorten! :D)
... this is just my login ... I always sign with my real name, which is Alex ... now if that ain't short enough (to quote Paul Simon): "Call me Al" ;-)

Alex
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