Google Rankings and Bad Link Neighbourhoods, No Need To Worry.

[morestar]

So at Google's Official Webmaster Central Blog they posted information about dealing with low quality backlinks.

The main points are if at all possible contact the owners of so called bad neighbourhoods and request them to remove your link but if you find you can't do this on some sites, "don't fret for too long", and just working on what you do have control over like organizing content, seek site reviews and do things to get more traffic (among many other things).

So Google continues to index and display fresh content and eventually bad neighbourhoods & their doggy doo fade away while the good work we do bears it's yummy fruit.

[thefandango]

Personally I think the internet IS links, and to start crowing about who is linking to you of their own free will goes against the spirit of the whole thing.

[morestar]

I personally haven't worried about bad links yet. So far I been content with any link to my site because even if it's a bad link in a bad neighbourhood, I'm still getting exposure and free advertising.

It's better to be in the news than not in some cases.

[tangeray]

Please, give me all the links you want. I'll work in the ghettos of the internet - it gives me street cred.

SatHookup

[SnerdeyWebs]

You know.. I just don't get it when it comes to bad inbound links. We never asked for the link yet we're supposed to contact some stranger that's not going to reply anyway!

Google should just have a new meta tag ( ignore )

So we can enter all the url's we want to not count.. opening a can of worms here but we should not have to spend any time trying to have links removed that were not requested in the 1st place.

[morestar]

Originally Posted by SnerdeyWebs

You know.. I just don't get it when it comes to bad inbound links. We never asked for the link yet we're supposed to contact some stranger that's not going to reply anyway!

Google should just have a new meta tag ( ignore )

So we can enter all the url's we want to not count.. opening a can of worms here but we should not have to spend any time trying to have links removed that were not requested in the 1st place.

Ha, the idea of a meta tag named ignore would be funny but with respect to asking these sites to take down links to our site, Google only suggests that we ask them to and if nothing can be done, then not to worry...

and it's true, if you really do care, asking them is all you can do...the net is free...

[Doc]

Originally Posted by SnerdeyWebs

You know.. I just don't get it when it comes to bad inbound links. We never asked for the link yet we're supposed to contact some stranger that's not going to reply anyway!

Google should just have a new meta tag ( ignore )

So we can enter all the url's we want to not count.. opening a can of worms here but we should not have to spend any time trying to have links removed that were not requested in the 1st place.

I agree, SnerdeyWebs. Although it could become burdensome, if you have a lot of bad links coming in. Most of us wouldn't be faced with that, I don't imagine.

I get the impression that Google doesn't think it's a big enough problem to warrant any special attention, however. I'm sure it isn't that big a problem, unless YOU happen to be the victim.

[morestar]

Well as we read, eventually google can tell what links are actually worth something and only counts those...so in essence links from bad sites really don't effect our rankings...

[SemAdvance]

A lot of time Google speaks with forked tongue, and most people fail to realize that apart from most world governments, Google is the largest propaganda engine in operation.

If bad links could hurt you, then all I or anyone really, would need to do is hire dirtballs who work very cheap to build bad links to all sites on the first page of Google for terms I want to rank well for. Google would then push my great site to the top, and I could take over the world one day at a time!!!!!!!!
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Here is the reality of how Google works. Google is a giant database which collects data.

Google knows for example how many links per month, each and every website, obtained.

So if, lets say WebProWorld.com suddenly had 20,000,000 links placed to it in one month, when for the past 5 years, the site obtained on average 1,000 links per month, this would cause an aberration or spike, that would likely show up in some Googlers inbox, as a report of such incidents.

Google would then need to adjust the algorithm to clean up the issue or somehow disregard the filter that would likely applied algorithmically.

Just my 1 cent adjusted for economic decline of thoughts world wide....

;->

[james113]

Originally Posted by tangeray

Please, give me all the links you want. I'll work in the ghettos of the internet - it gives me street cred.

SatHookup

If I want to sell something, I find it much easier to do in the rich neighborhoods.

[tangeray]

James,

As in "ghettos" I mean that's where you get the labor to build the links for free (think Slumdog Millionaire).

They will eventually rise, as all underdogs do. I don't wan't the ghetto traffic, but will take the free traffic from the unsuspecting shopper that stumbles upon their site.

[morestar]

Originally Posted by james113

If I want to sell something, I find it much easier to do in the rich neighborhoods.

...and that would surely depend on the niche market.

for my sig. site, someone could be browsing through bad neighbourhoods and find my link - if their not hitched yet, they could find my site useful. Heck even the person who posted the link could find it useful. So it really depends but in the case of getting wealthy customers to your site, even they could find your link via a so-called bad neighbourhood and end up purchasing your product...

[daveberk]

You can't control who links to you. If Google or any SE chose to "punish" sites for having "bad" links pointing to them, as SemAdvance said, it would be too easy for someone to sabotage another site by submitting link requests to "bad neighborhoods" posing as the other site.

So I can't see any SE punishing a site for having bad links pointing to it. Most likely the links from those sites will be discounted or ignored - not count against you. Of course, be careful who you link to. That is in your control and could reasonably be counted against you?

But I wouldn't worry much about less desirable sites linking to you. As morestar said, who knows, you may get some valuable traffic from a less desirable site.

[morestar]

...and of course now this opens up the door of clarity to all the directory submissions software writers...

[MtraX]

So the crux of the matter is, just ignore them, as said before we have no control. It'll just mean less PR transferred from sites deemed as part of bad neighbourhoods. The question is if you game it and actively increase maximum linkage from these types of sites, how's Google to know you were the one that requested the links? That would mean extra possible traffic yes. But it's far better to focus on 'rich neighbourhoods' as mentioned before...

[allenhoward]

I don't worry about that. At least i can get some traffic.I have seen many websites which has lots of irrelevant back-links and ranking well. I think the most important is to update site with fresh content and drive more traffic that's google like.

[Technotate]

Originally Posted by thefandango

Personally I think the internet IS links, and to start crowing about who is linking to you of their own free will goes against the spirit of the whole thing.

I agree the Internet is based upon linking among sites and services in a manner similar to the way humans use interpersonal skills and communication. I think it may change things drastically depending upon who YOUR SITE LINKS TO but anyone who opts to link to your site of their own volition should be looked upon as a sort of gift rather than a curse of some sort.

Regards,
Technotate

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by Technotate

......I think it may change things drastically depending upon who YOUR SITE LINKS TO but anyone who opts to link to your site of their own volition should be looked upon as a sort of gift rather than a curse of some sort.

Generally, yes, but that's not always the case. I know I don't want a malware/spyware or p-0rn site linking to any of my sites, nor do I want any place using inappropriate link text to any of pages.

[nickoran]

Well I didnt know about this; https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/paidlinks i guess paid links is no longer under contention, its got to be a no no now!? If im just really blonde and being able to repor them has been around for a long time im sorry, but this is the first time i knew you could report paid links!

[Technotate]

Originally Posted by Clint1

Generally, yes, but that's not always the case. I know I don't want a malware/spyware or p-0rn site linking to any of my sites, nor do I want any place using inappropriate link text to any of pages.

Wow. I just realized how naive I am at times. I stand corrected as I now see your point with clarity. I must have been functioning on low caffeine levels when I suggested all links are a gift. I agree Clint, especially those of malware and other pests getting disassociated with a bad link is a task unto itself.
Here is a bad experience in which an article submission service was the source of the chaos.

2006-07 while implementing SEM campaign for client, I outsourced a series of tasks to a few freelancers. Specifically to submit an article to a number of sites online. A few weeks following -after the content was approved at numerous article and content directories etc. A flag began throwing up within Google for certain queries that related to this particular content specifically.

Of course, that was not my first thought and It took hours to uncover the actual origin of the problem and weeks -perhaps longer to entice the search engine to actually delete all listings associated with that particular article.
First, I had to attempt to resolve the matter with those third party publishers in hopes they would cooperate and delete the content themselves.

Some responded, many didn't and the flags continued to fly within search listings for that particular article only. Of course, the embedded links within the body of the article suggested to anyone whpaying attention that client's site was hosting a malware or viral something.

I returned to Google and pleaded for all traces of that particular article and content to be deleted, provided a list, etc. I understand Google was reluctant to delete content owned by third party sites but I impressed upon them the fact that allowing that content to remain potentially put healthy machines at risk.
After all was said and deleted in respect to that content, we celebrated our mutual enlightenment

'what-not-to-do'

...The moral of the story is you get what you pay for sometimes and almost always in the virtual world. I sought to exploit a cheap labor source in my effort to avoid the tedious submissions, the service provider sought an inexpensive script to further his effort and we all got a bad taste of the malware menace.
The time I spent straightening out that mess I could have scripted my own submissions app or even do the work manually.

Fortunately for me Google does pay attention and work towards the good of all parties on the Internet, I kind of pat myself for coming up with the proper point to initiate action on deletions. The 'do no evil' phrase comes in handy sometimes.

With this history now revealed, to think I suggested every link is a gift, I must be suffering some loss of mental capacity.
You are correct, I concede...some links are worse than bad!
Thanks for snapping me back to reality.

Regards,
TechNotate

Technotate

[Hafsoh]

A site can get benefit from good incoming links but can not be penalised for bad incoming links. Bad incoming links will not do any harm to the index position of your site in Google. BUT make sure you do not have any links to the "bad" site.

[full house]

I see lots for pages like that, they look link farm with couple of unrelated sites. I guess this only goes to those to do it only few bad neighbors.

[Himalayan]

Google prefer and give value to relevant resources for website promotion. A website ranks well in results pages if it is placed in proper category. Bad neighboring and irrelevant resources are not helpful anyways.

[AndreyW]

dont think that there something true about PR - only google knows
Just like talking about live on mars

To find out - look for this:
"website promotion articles by shulman"