Question on Backlinks from the same Ip address

[tripper]

I have a very simple question but it needs to be evaluated carefully. I have heard that links coming from the same IP's don't all get counted. Does anyone have any more info on this?

[Tubby]

If you wish your visitors to find other pages on your site then you sometimes you need to place a link.
search engines can find these links as easy as your user can find them.

When you say 'count' If you mean can search engines find the pages - YES.
if your user can find the page - so can search engines.

My own site has hundreds of links to itself (same IP) Site navigation is extremely important for search engines and users alike.

[morestar]

...and it wouldn't be in Google's best interest to NOT count links from the same IP as that might hinder them from producing relevant content to their searchers.

In other words, yes, sometimes links from the same domains could be considered spammy or back-scratching but since there are times when that is not the case and the links are genuine, meaning valuable, then no, I don't think Google would NOT count them.

And yes as Tubby said, links from your own site to your own site are important and counted by Google and they are all from the same IP.

[urb100]

Answer varies:
Same ip - different sites? creating a link loop?
or
same ip - same domain. Internal links case.

[Smeagol]

Hallo in my humble opinion, if I must believe what I'm told (here and elsewhere). 'Content rules' if link-to-link = relavent-content to relative-content then it should count for something... right?.

I cannot really support this as what I see on my monitored sites is to say the least 'very strange'
I call it the yoyo-efect, everything or nothing (today a winner, tomorrow off the charts, and visa-versa).

Why ?

Woops, yes some are (unfortunately) on the same IP. And content is definately very relavant.
Sorry folks (newbie)

[SemAdvance]

I doubt Google scores more than one link from the same IP as having full value, otherwise I could link to one of my sites from my 60+ other sites and boost my primary site to the top for its keyword terms, and that has not worked yet.

I remain hopeful. but it would just be too large a loophole for Google to leave open to exploitation.

Further empirical and historical data would suggest that the value of a websites IBL score, is links from many varied IPs

[Smeagol]

SemAdvance, my experience is like wise. I agree.
Many links for one IP = 1 link from that IP. that is the way I measure it too.

[morestar]

Originally Posted by Smeagol

SemAdvance, my experience is like wise. I agree.
Many links for one IP = 1 link from that IP. that is the way I measure it too.

ahhh no that wouldn't be true. I'm pretty sure if you're careful you can have many links from the same IP but if you trip a search engine's spam filter because you are spamming then you have a problem.

[ron angel]

Originally Posted by SemAdvance

I doubt Google scores more than one link from the same IP as having full value, otherwise I could link to one of my sites from my 60+ other sites and boost my primary site to the top for its keyword terms, and that has not worked yet.

I remain hopeful. but it would just be too large a loophole for Google to leave open to exploitation.

Further empirical and historical data would suggest that the value of a websites IBL score, is links from many varied IPs

It does work to a very small extent but not with keyword links. just putting your main site url on all of the other sites without any anchor text (apart from maybe url itself ) without any return links from main site, votes to the search engines that the main site is of a higher popular level because of what appears to be random incoming links, with nothing else to suggest otherwise. ( I have seen this done as a test does work in practice but the referring urls must be added over a period of time maybe 60 over 6 month's to a year not all in one go....) no more exact information can be given here but you have the idea.

[Tubby]

Sometimes it is not difficult to read all the things written about search engine algorithms and let our minds wander off imagining all sorts of scenarios.

Simply making common sense decisions that serve your users, make navigation simpler and informing your site visitors about web pages that contain information they might want to see . . Is a perfectly safe and proper thing to do.

If you read every blog, if you panic about every potential 'Penalty' your web site will deteriorate to a state where users nor search engines will find it worth looking at.

Letting search engine 'possibilities' determine the way you develop your web site is silly.

[Chuckmiser]

I had all of my sites on the same IP on a web hosting reseller account that I have had for 10+ years. I have migrated a few of them off in the past 6 months and it does seem to make a difference. How much who knows, but I believe that moving them to separate hosting companies was a good move especially, if the content was Same Same but different as they say here in Asia.

It real hard to tell as they are not showing all the back links and seem to be discounting through aging, I am guessing, back links that are still there, many of those back links were not coming from sites that I own or control.

[deepsand]

Shared Server = Same IP Address.

Same IP Address NOT = Same Source

I.e., IBLs from same IP Address are not necessarily viewed as "spam," and, therefore, not necessarily discounted.

[Zethix]

My thought is that, an excessive number of links to a site all coming from the same IP may put up a red flag with Google, but they are unlikely to automatically penalize the linked site. That would lead to too many opportunities for anti-competitive behaviour. They may get someone to manually review the site, though.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Zethix

My thought is that, an excessive number of links to a site all coming from the same IP may put up a red flag with Google, but they are unlikely to automatically penalize the linked site.

Firstly, consider that the vast majority of web sites do not have dedicated servers, but are hosted on shared servers, with the result that they do have shared IP Addresses.

Originally Posted by Zethix

That would lead to too many opportunities for anti-competitive behavior.

Now, consider that this would require that competitors first establish sites on the same shared server that hosts the site they wished to so harm.

[zbikenut]

I agree as long as it is a link Google will count it. It is hard for non relevancy test to get it right so they don't try. A link is a link.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by zbikenut

It is hard for non relevancy test to get it right

Is it? If so, why?

Originally Posted by zbikenut

... so they don't try.

Is "relevancy" part of the PR algorithm?

Is it part of the SERP algorithm?

Are you certain that neither Google nor any other SE gives any import to relevancy?

Originally Posted by zbikenut

A link is a link.

It is?

[Himalayan]

We can see it more in directories. Many directories are running on same IP with same format. In this case Google count only one link.

[Hafsoh]

There are always different opinions and arguments about this one, to me it still counts great of having lots of links from the same IP, though preferably try to get different ip because google may think that such linking is out to manipulate SERP's. Links from same IP shouldn't be too much mix them up!

[morestar]

Recently I launched another site related to my signature site, i uploaded the same files to the new server and so forth but I forgot to change the new site's 404/member not found page link to the new site - it was linking to my current site...

I didn't notice anything but later did a search and found that the 404 page is a link that google considers...So now I left it that way, with the link to my site and everything is STILL fine and if not better...and of course I'm hosting both sites and are they are on the exact same IP.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Himalayan

We can see it more in directories.

Specifically, see more of what?

Originally Posted by Himalayan

Many directories are running on same IP with same format.

How are directories different from any other site running on a shared host?

Originally Posted by Himalayan

In this case Google count only one link.

Can you prove this?

[weegillis]

SHOULD links from the same IP be discounted? Certainly not. The host IP (shared hosting) is best used as a NODE identifier indicating region. How many shared hosting sites link to each other and don't even know they share the same IP? In Telus's case I'm betting hundreds of thousands. How about 1and1? That's just two hosts, with a small range of IP addresses. How can a SE gain any sort of statistical measure from this?

Domain to domain. This is what a link targets, regardless that it is resolved over the network. Assessing the connection between documents and domains is the job of the spiders. When something fishy starts showing up, it's the humans that take over, not more machines.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Himalayan

Many directories are running on same IP with same format.

SEs index content.

Do any deem formatting to be of import? If so, why?

[safdar_ali]

What do you think about directory submission?

[Janna122003]

Well I think link on same IP would only lessen the value of links.

[wpkreech]

if my site is not hosted on a dedicated server.. would I then have a hard time pulling my site up on top of the search engines?

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Janna122003

Well I think link on same IP would only lessen the value of links.

For what reason(s) do you so conclude?

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by wpkreech

if my site is not hosted on a dedicated server.. would I then have a hard time pulling my site up on top of the search engines?

Not at all.

Sites/pages are judged by their content, not by how they are served up.

[wpkreech]

does it have an effect when it comes to working out your SERP? it seems it's hard to make it on top of the search engines.. but will let you know once i've proven that it doesn't matter.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by wpkreech

does it have an effect when it comes to working out your SERP?

Question on Backlinks from the same Ip address