Site rankings drop after press release

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by ncseo

no that will not harm you

Ooooooook....whatever you say ace.

do you think the whitehouse.gov site suffered because Bush was ranking for 'miserable failure'?

No, because: The WH is not you nor I, and people don't use an SE to find whitehouse.gov. They just type in "whitehouse.gov". Furthermore, the WH doesn't rely on SE's for anything. Their site could be deleted from the index and everyone would still know about it and go to it if they wanted. It has the greatest, best, "advertising and promotion" there is; constantly in the global media on minute-by-minute daily basis.

Google manually changed the algo when it was brought to their attention, and no harm done to the site

Well of course they did, it was the White House! Now I have heard "rumors" since that overall the algo was tweaked, but that still didn't change the fact that they still place top precendence on who links to you and how they link to you (i.e. anchor text).

[ncseo]

harming someone's site is bringing it DOWN or DEINDEXED from google

are you stating the Google bombing can bring down a site or deindex it?

Originally Posted by Clint1

Ooooooook....whatever you say ace.



No, because: The WH is not you nor I, and people don't use an SE to find whitehouse.gov. They just type in "whitehouse.gov". Furthermore, the WH doesn't rely on SE's for anything. Their site could be deleted from the index and everyone would still know about it and go to it if they wanted. It has the greatest, best, "advertising and promotion" there is; constantly in the global media on minute-by-minute daily basis.



Well of course they did, it was the White House! Now I have heard "rumors" since that overall the algo was tweaked, but that still didn't change the fact that they still place top precendence on who links to you and how they link to you (i.e. anchor text).

[Webnauts]

By just submitting a press release is not a reason experiencing a drop in your rankings. Google is tweaking aggressively, so you have to keep an eye on that and see where you do not comform anymore. I already see the dark clouds.

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by ncseo

harming someone's site is bringing it DOWN or DEINDEXED from google

are you stating the Google bombing can bring down a site or deindex it?

Yes! (But usually pages, not sites). That was the examples that several (including myself) have brought up now. For another example; by your own admission it happened to you: "btw...had someone do that to me and my friends with over 10k links as a joke. we ranked really high for the keywords but were later taken off for that keyword." Now what if that had been for a keyword you wanted? (Maybe it was, of course I don't' know). You rose, then were deleted for that keyword. That's what happened to me as well as I pointed out in my examples, but in my case it was only a few pages and it still happened.

"G-bombing" (not necessarily the name, but what it actually does) can sort of be positive or negative. In the case of Bush, and other examples like that, obviously negative. In the case of a legit decent site owner wanting to create more user-friendly nav menus, and, obviously wanting better linking hierarchy to appease the SE's; it's positive at first, but the 'evilality' at G eventually punishes you for it. Some say it may right itself, personally in my experiences I have yet to see it right itself. (For that matter, I don't know anything at G that rights itself). I can only guess, surmise, that due to that Bush-G-bombing fiasco that they (once again) screwed up their algo's, that in turn (once again) harmed site owners that are doing it in a positive, helpful and useful manner.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by Clint1

Yes! (But usually pages, not sites). That was the examples that several (including myself) have brought up now. For another example; by your own admission it happened to you: "btw...had someone do that to me and my friends with over 10k links as a joke. we ranked really high for the keywords but were later taken off for that keyword." Now what if that had been for a keyword you wanted? (Maybe it was, of course I don't' know). You rose, then were deleted for that keyword. That's what happened to me as well as I pointed out in my examples, but in my case it was only a few pages and it still happened.

"G-bombing" (not necessarily the name, but what it actually does) can sort of be positive or negative. In the case of Bush, and other examples like that, obviously negative. In the case of a legit decent site owner wanting to create more user-friendly nav menus, and, obviously wanting better linking hierarchy to appease the SE's; it's positive at first, but the 'evilality' at G eventually punishes you for it. Some say it may right itself, personally in my experiences I have yet to see it right itself. (For that matter, I don't know anything at G that rights itself). I can only guess, surmise, that due to that Bush-G-bombing fiasco that they (once again) screwed up their algo's, that in turn (once again) harmed site owners that are doing it in a positive, helpful and useful manner.

I thought GoogleBombing is since two years dead: Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: A quick word about Googlebombs

What are we talking about here?

[Terry Van Horne]

Originally Posted by ncseo

harming someone's site is bringing it DOWN or DEINDEXED from google

are you stating the Google bombing can bring down a site or deindex it?

Umm I don't have to hack a site to hurt it, I don't have to get it deindexed either I only need to make pages disappear out of the google index. That has been done many times by at least two different site highjacking methods. I've seen it done using 302's and proxy servers. So keep talking bud by the time your through everyone will know exactly how experienced you are. Grass comes to mind.

[ncseo]

Are you talking about a few years ago 'bud' or are you speaking of how people can do that today 'bud'? Do you see that happening today? .....prove it.
302/proxy hacking


Bud, you should read what you write BEFORE Posting

"I don't have to get it deindexed either I only need to make pages disappear out of the google index. "

hello....that is what deindexed is lol

Grass comes to mind....right back at ya bud.

Is this amateur night at the apollos?

I wasn't writing about hacking. Read what I write, and reply accordingly.

We're talking about Google bombing

Originally Posted by Terry Van Horne

Umm I don't have to hack a site to hurt it, I don't have to get it deindexed either I only need to make pages disappear out of the google index. That has been done many times by at least two different site highjacking methods. I've seen it done using 302's and proxy servers. So keep talking bud by the time your through everyone will know exactly how experienced you are. Grass comes to mind.

[ncseo]

it was recently done with Obama

Unlike Bush's 'Google Bomb,' Google Quickly Defuses Obama's - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com

Originally Posted by Webnauts

I thought GoogleBombing is since two years dead: Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: A quick word about Googlebombs

What are we talking about here?

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by ncseo

Are you talking about a few years ago 'bud' or are you speaking of how people can do that today 'bud'? Do you see that happening today? .....prove it.
302/proxy hacking

I'm sure Terry can speak for himself, but it does happen, it's happened to me a lot. This is only one other type of example that I posted here: How do you 301 redirect a dynamic URL (URL with a question mark in it)? . While not a 302 hijack in that example, that too (nefarious 302's) has also happened to me with some of my URL's.

*"I don't have to get it deindexed either I only need to make pages disappear out of the google index. "

hello....that is what deindexed is lol

Again, I can't speak for Terry but I believe he meant *"de-indexed" to be the deletion of an entire site as opposed to individual pages.

We're talking about Google bombing

I guess we're talking about both G-bombing and "harming someone's site", which you mentioned.

[ncseo]

i'm talking about harming someone in the index

i'm not talking about hacking someone's site as that is clearly obvious what it can do

next I'm going to hear that yea someone can hack Google and bring down a site
or
bribe a google employee to bring down a site

lol
You said Google bombing can hurt your site.....

I'm still waiting on how it can hurt your site

There are a lot of sites that do google bombs and soar through the rankings AND STAY THERE for very competitive terms.

Originally Posted by Clint1

I'm sure Terry can speak for himself, but it does happen, it's happened to me a lot. This is only one other type of example that I posted here: How do you 301 redirect a dynamic URL (URL with a question mark in it)? . While not a 302 hijack in that example, that too (nefarious 302's) has also happened to me with some of my URL's.



Again, I can't speak for Terry but I believe he meant *"de-indexed" to be the deletion of an entire site as opposed to individual pages.



I guess we're talking about both G-bombing and "harming someone's site", which you mentioned.

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by ncseo

i'm talking about harming someone in the index

As are we!!

...or
bribe a google employee to bring down a site

I would not say that's impossible.

You said Google bombing can hurt your site.....

I'm still waiting on how it can hurt your site

We've not only presented you with several ways, but as I previously pointed out in my examples it was also done to you. Apaprently you're refusing to see that. So, that's that and there's nothing I can do about that.

There are a lot of sites that do google bombs and soar through the rankings AND STAY THERE for very competitive terms.

Perhaps so, I don't think anyone is disputing that. The subject of this thread brought up G-bombing types of events as possible explanations as to what occurred to the OP. (But since he's apparently gone MIA to possibly KIA, it appears to be moot now).

[MayaLocke]

It is unlikely that the Press Release had anything to do with the ranking change, perhaps there are other factors involved.