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[onelife]

Hi all,

I have a few sites on the web and they all have different PR values.

Firstly

www.one-life.me.uk & www.onelifestore.co.uk

These have been up since Jan 2004 and have a PR 2. Ok, but I haven't linked to anyone, paid inclusions, added to directories or anything.

But my big site www.thehealthzone.co.uk has been submitted to ODP, Yahoo, Joeant, Goguides and every search engine going. Google crawls the site 2-3 times per day and in the last 7 days has taken 75mb of data from the site.

But it still has a PR 1. Is it because there is so many pages that Google thinks I'm spamming? or simply because the site is less than two months old?

How longs does it take for Google to implement any changes from its last crawl?

Roughly how long would it take to get a PR5 +, can this be done with quality content alone or are millions of back links required?

Please if you have any hints to put me straight it would be most appreciated.

Many thanks

[cbp]

or simply because the site is less than two months old

yes

How longs does it take for Google to implement any changes from its last crawl?

daily

Roughly how long would it take to get a PR5 +, can this be done with quality content alone or are millions of back links required?

PR is a mathematical function of incoming links, so "quality of content" does not figured in teh PR calculation - BUT, if you have a site with quality content, more sites will link to you to give you PR.
One high PR link 6 or 7 is usually enough ofr a PR5

CBP

[incrediblehelp]

"Roughly how long would it take to get a PR5 +, can this be done with quality content alone or are millions of back links required?"

Time and numbers have no bearing on PR. I have seen sites with thousands of in coming links have a PR of 5 while a site with 40 incoming links with have a PR of 6. Sure PR is hard to calculate and even harder to try to dissect, but the main goal in achieving a satisfactory PR which in turn will lead to solid long term rankings is the gaining "quality" inbound links. Simple getting sites to link to you with a high PR is not enough anymore and with Google cracking down on paid inbound linking it is safe to say Google will give you the rankings you want by simply gaining links from related and real websites. The more the site relates to you r site and the more popular it is already in Google the better the link is to your site.

I think the main problem you have with this site is it is just to new right now and doesn't have the inbound links necessary to carry heavy worth in Google.

[onelife]

Many thanks guys for the advice.

I have been working on building some inbound links for a few days. Obviously it will take time for them to be realised.

I just can't understand how the two sites that I haven't tried to promote - because I didn't know how to - have a higher PR than the one I'm promoting on a daily basis.

Again many thanks

[artemist]

Just make a quality site. Never mind the incoming or outgoing links.
Ignore the google sandbox theory. It does not exist.
Google has human editors, as do the only other three search engines which anyone uses. All other meta search engines get their results from them after they have been approved as a Kosher site.
Make your page for people.
Not for
Spiders make great geek pets, at least virtual ones do. Hëre at StepForth, we keep a couple spiders on our system to test sites, pages and documents in the hopes of learning more about the behaviours of common search engine spiders such as GoogleBot, Yahoo's Slurp and MSNBot. Recently, we learned that virtual pets share a similar problem with live pets; they grow old and eventually die. While our mock-spiders are still very much alive, the information we glean from their behaviours is increasingly irrelevant to predicting how a spider from a major search engine will behave. Our pet-spiders have grown too old to showër us with the informative affection they once did.
Your website is about you and your product. Not about Spiders.
My wife just started a new business three weeks ago and I built her sites. It is a niche market with only (according to google) 340,000 competitors.
She has now got more business than she can handle.

[artemist]

Its got a PR4 now, which is what any normal existing site would have anyway