right or wrong for search engine

[stuff4beauty2]

Does anyone see anything on our site that would stop a search engine from listing us? If there is, we can't see it. We just don't seem to be able to get listed and can't figure out why.

www.stuff4beauty.com

[Duncan Pollock]

Most of all, I can't help thinking that spiders (and therefore searchers) can't understand your site and its purpose quickly enough. So let me come out with some fightin' words for you:
1. An opening sentence about your shipping terms surely belongs well after what ought to be in its place, just as the rest of your content is somewhat hopelessly out of order.
2. I think you need to totally restructure what you've got so it runs somewhat as follows:
"Glad you found us .......... We created this site as an extension of our brick and mortar store .... This is our range of products ...... This is how we ship, etc."
3. I'll argue that, while there's nothing especially wrong with either your content or colour scheme, googlebot et al are not going to know the answer to their question: Just what the hell are these people trying to sell?!!

Duncan

[stuff4beauty2]

Hi! Thanks SO very much for looking at the site for me. I am far from a professional web site builder and am learning something new every day. I really appreciate your honest input. I have re-arranged. Maybe better now? I hope so, but if not, I will continue to try. I think I am about at 2000 hours now into this!

[Duncan Pollock]

You got it! And thank you for not taking exception to my fightin' words.
Beyond your 2000 hours, though, ha, ha, it could be worthwhile doing much the same with all your link pages, i.e. push the "Not comfortable ordering on line?" part down past the basic product line description. This way the search engines will know what the page is about and will be more likely to list it.
(Otherwise, the only keyword searches that are going to turn up your page are ones that say something like "not sure about ordering". However, what you want is someone to find you because they're searching for info about the specific product line. Yes? Yes!)

Duncan

[stuff4beauty2]

You have been so kind to take some time for me in this busy world. Thank you. I am making the changes right now. I sure hope I see the results soon! I am always open to comments and suggestions as I am learning and have turned here for information. I read a lot and try to pick up on things I read. There is so much info out there, it can get rather confusing at times. Have a great day!

[mm99]

A couple of suggestions:

1)get a doc tag on the page
2)remove the java script from the head. Use a link to place it in a separate file.

peace...Paul

[Andilinks]

Just one more quick suggestion:

Do a lot of searches on the keywords you want to be listed for and look very carefully at the 20-50 sites that come out on top.

Study them and try to figure out what the most successful sites in your category are doing to persuade people to buy their products.

I don't advocate copying individual sites, but those elements that are common to most of the successful sites ought to be copied.

Andi

[stuff4beauty2]

Hi, Thanks for responding. We come up for our keywords right now in Yahoo pretty good for some things, but do not get a lot of traffic from yahoo. I am not so much worried about the keywords right at the moment, as much as I am wondering why were we showing on Google a month ago, got LOTS of traffic and now we are not. What good are good keywords when you can't get indexed? About the time I put the floating menu (java script) in, is about the time we quit showing, but still had text links on every page to all pages on the site and a sitemap. When I go to the sim spider, it can see all the text and links on every page. Would the java script really stop us from showing on google? If that is the case I need to do something. The menu is java script, and is already in a file. I was instructed for the code use to put it in the head. How would I take it out of the head and still be able to use the menu?

[stuff4beauty2]

I didn't have all these problems before I discovered how nice it was to be listed in google! I figured out how to link the java, hopefully this will do it. I had a doc tag on all pages till today, I took it off, someone told me it was a waste of space that all I needed was the title, keywords, description and robots.txt file in my root..... is this right?

[stuff4beauty2]

A couple of suggestions:

1)get a doc tag on the page



Can someone tell me what is a doc tag, I thought I knew, but I don't know. I tried figuring it out. I need to know if I need it, and how do you do it??

[hawkwind dave]

Hi stuff4beauty2,
This search engine glossary may be of use;

http://www.search-engine-glossary.co.uk/

And for info on 'doc tags';

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wha...-8&hl=en&meta=

Good luck ;-)

[hawkwind dave]

Now that I've come across 'Doc Tags' (thanks stuff4beauty2) and realised that I don't have any (i don't think, unless the <html> on line one of the code is a type of doc tag)

I'm not sure which version of HTML I'm using,
2.0, 3.2, 4.01 strict, 4.01 transitional, 4.01 frameset? I assume I'm using 4.01 strict or transitional (guessing) but I'm not sure.

I feel so thick, what does 'strict HTML' & 'transitional HTML' mean?

Sometimes I don't know my ASP from my HTMLbow!

[Andilinks]

You may as well begin at the beginning:

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/

There are lots of other HTML help sites,
I have 47 of them linked here:

http://www.andilinks.com/web.htm#21050

Andi

[stuff4beauty2]

Hi! I picked the transitional

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">

I read as much as I could and thought this one to be the best - but I am still TOTALLY confused and it is very hard for me to understand. Does anyone else have this problem? Or is there an easier way to understand it?

[mm99]

You've got it right. You should get rid of the script in the head. Just link to it. Clean that up an you're looking good.

peace...Paul

[stuff4beauty2]

Paul, Please if you have a moment, view my source. I thought I did link to the script in the head. Am I wrong? Thanks!

[mm99]

The code in the head is there. take a look at:

http://onlineclub.tk

and look at the source. You see 2 lines in the head linking to java script and css script. That's the way things should look.

You can drop me an email at my sig address if you have questions.

peace...Paul