Homepage PR 5 - Inner Page PR 6?

[Webnauts]

I just noticed in my Google Webmaster Tools that my page with the highest PageRank for December was my page SEO Workers Search Engine Optimization Analysis Tool

Then I turned on my toolbar and I saw that my homepage has PR 5 and my inner page SEO Workers Search Engine Optimization Analysis Tool has a PR 6.

I am not aware that my site has any web navigation/architecture issues.

Is that usual now?

I would appreciate any serious inputs.

[kevsta]

Hi John. it's usual enough if the best links you have go to that page. seen it a few times.

it's probably the power of our link to that page of yours doing that

[MrGamm]

I think perhaps the social bookmarks might have given you a little bit more importance.

Your robots is blocking the dynamic urls on your unsubscribe section and the site operator is "guesstimating" an unusually high number of pages in comparison to what you have...

http://www.seoworkers.com/mailing-li...subscribe&id=3

I would call this a PR overflow "penalty"...

site:seoworkers.com - Google Search

Results 1 - 10 of about 143

( you have about 40 pages in the index )

I guess if page rank had anything to do with rankings you could have a problem on your hands.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by MrGamm

I think perhaps the social bookmarks might have given you a little bit more importance.

That is not right. The tool page has a mass of unique natural contextual links. There are endless of articles published from others about our tool.

Originally Posted by MrGamm

Your robots is blocking the dynamic urls on your unsubscribe section and the site operator is "guesstimating" an unusually high number of pages in comparison to what you have...

http://www.seoworkers.com/mailing-li...subscribe&id=3

I changed that link because PR leaked to that page. But do you mean that the operator is just guesstimating? Hmmm... can you be more specific how can that happen?

Originally Posted by MrGamm

I would call this a PR overflow "penalty"...
site:seoworkers.com - Google Search

Results 1 - 10 of about 143

( you have about 40 pages in the index )

I can't help it that when thousands of webmaster link to our tool. Also that the page has at least 60% of our traffic. Don't you think?

Originally Posted by MrGamm

I guess if page rank had anything to do with rankings you could have a problem on your hands.

Well no matter from which country you search for the term "seo analysis" it appears nr. 1.
What do you mean that I have a problem on my hand?

[MrGamm]

Sorry... I really sarcastic... I thought the emoticon was enough.

I realize most social bookmarking links are behind password protected pages and not crawled as a result. The link backs you would get from them would be primarily lead to normal referrals in most instances. Not search engine referrals. Myspace as of last year or so started to encrypt and redirect all of their links so it's highly debatable as to whether they are counted towards anything as well.



I was being sarcastic about the guesstimating too. I personally don't think that a search engine company built for speed would add extra computational overhead to their system by guesstimating how many pages they crawled for your site. It's just my personal opinion that they mean something specifically. I cannot know if the robots was a new addition to your site and those pages where once in the index or not. Perhaps there is a counter rather than a guestimater. However I did read at one point that there is a whole science behind guestimating. I think it's garbage to tell you the truth but who am I to argue with the computer science academics. Who knows what techincal challenges a company like Google has to go through. Maybe guestimating is in use ( don't ask me how a computer guesses ). However, most of my sites do not have a large number of pages in the tally compared to the pages indexed. In nearly all cases for websites with low page counts the number is next to accurate. It is simply something I noticed. I doubt it means anything.

"I can't help it that when thousands of webmaster link to our tool. Also that the page has at least 60% of our traffic. Don't you think?"

I would think that having a free tool for everybodies use would certainly act as some sort of link bait for sure.

Well no matter from which country you search for the term "seo analysis" it appears nr. 1.
What do you mean that I have a problem on my hand?

You must have good connections. Good marketing channels... or perhaps you've been link bombing longer than most? I don't doubt that you do well with your business.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by MrGamm

Sorry... I really sarcastic... I thought the emoticon was enough.

Got yeah!

[quote=MrGamm;412469]I realize most social bookmarking links are behind password protected pages and not crawled as a result. The link backs you would get from them would be primarily lead to normal referrals in most instances. Not search engine referrals. Myspace as of last year or so started to encrypt and redirect all of their links so it's highly debatable as to whether they are counted towards anything as well.[/quote
Well that is questionable.

Originally Posted by MrGamm

I was being sarcastic about the guesstimating too. I personally don't think that a search engine company built for speed would add extra computational overhead to their system by guesstimating how many pages they crawled for your site. It's just my personal opinion that they mean something specifically. I cannot know if the robots was a new addition to your site and those pages where once in the index or not. Perhaps there is a counter rather than a guestimater. However I did read at one point that there is a whole science behind guestimating. I think it's garbage to tell you the truth but who am I to argue with the computer science academics. Who knows what techincal challenges a company like Google has to go through. Maybe guestimating is in use ( don't ask me how a computer guesses ). However, most of my sites do not have a large number of pages in the tally compared to the pages indexed. In nearly all cases for websites with low page counts the number is next to accurate. It is simply something I noticed. I doubt it means anything.

The garbage is the following. We had a forum hosted on a subdomain like http:// forums. seoworkers. com and we screwed up the htaccess file and that have generated a mass of pages which have been indexed. Now we moved our forums to an own domain and IP SEO Workers Forums but in our webmaster tools I still see pages there. In August Google was showing with their operator 323 pages. They are getting gradually less though.

In our Google Webmaster Tools, under sitemap is shows:

Sitemap stats
Total URLs: 34
Indexed URLs: 33

And I was just reading this: Why Does The Site Command Show More Indexed Pages Then Google's Sitemap Report?

Originally Posted by MrGamm

I would think that having a free tool for everybodies use would certainly act as some sort of link bait for sure.

We have the best feedbacks on our tool. It is an excellent link baiting. Have a look at our stats of the last 30 days: http://getclicky.com/stats/home?site...e=last-30-days

Originally Posted by MrGamm

You must have good connections. Good marketing channels... or perhaps you've been link bombing longer than most? I don't doubt that you do well with your business.

Link Bombing is a practice I never did, and will never do, even if I had the time for such garbage.

Lets go on discussing this. It is getting pretty hot and I enjoy talking to you.

[MrGamm]

I'm not sure what your asking... I think there is nothing wrong with your site. It has content of interest to others. It's targeted towards an audience in a unique way I think. The website structure looks fine... The graphics are slick and professional. It's accessible. It's all around good.

When I used to worry about supplemental ratios... I used this... http://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3...seoworkers.com

I could never get exact supplemental ratio listings. However... the number of real pages indexed using the normal site: prefix is 42... which co-incidentally is the same number returned in the estimate of the inallurl prefix search. Not sure if it means anything exactly... but it's notable I think...

In any event it's always been a bit of a mystery...

Edit... my mistake... it's 32 not 42... still a mystery... I just don't know... who does?

[pomra]

I think Google is focusing some energy on internal linking as we've seen the same thing here. If you think about it froma search results perspective it puts some of it in our control as they are placing emphasis on pages that appear more important to us.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by MrGamm

I'm not sure what your asking... I think there is nothing wrong with your site. It has content of interest to others. It's targeted towards an audience in a unique way I think. The website structure looks fine... The graphics are slick and professional. It's accessible. It's all around good.

When I used to worry about supplemental ratios... I used this... site:seoworkers.com -inallurl:seoworkers.com - Google Search

I could never get exact supplemental ratio listings. However... the number of real pages indexed using the normal site: prefix is 42... which co-incidentally is the same number returned in the estimate of the inallurl prefix search. Not sure if it means anything exactly... but it's notable I think...

In any event it's always been a bit of a mystery...

Edit... my mistake... it's 32 not 42... still a mystery... I just don't know... who does?

Thanks James for the feedback. I just completed a two year work on my project "alternative to the nofollow attribute".
If you look at internal and external links, like the "Unsubscribe Newsletter" or "Subscribe to our feed" or the link of the banner "MT" or at my forms which I do not want to be crawled/followed, of the social media bookmarking links on my articles (hint: 301 redirects and not 302, redirecting the bots to the homepage) I am sure you will be impressed.

Your comments will be as always very appreciated.

P.S. Result: I think I found the problem with the site: operator. When I get my confirmation I will keep you updated.

[2fk]

got same issue...the index page got pr1 while the subpage got a pr and pr3 on this there are internal links going in on this page...is there something to do with this on the pr? passing the juice to this page from the two pages which also achieve a pr..to note that this page was the last 3rd page to acquired pr after the two other pages got their pr first..

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by 2fk

got same issue...the index page got pr1 while the subpage got a pr and pr3 on this there are internal links going in on this page...is there something to do with this on the pr? passing the juice to this page from the two pages which also achieve a pr..to note that this page was the last 3rd page to acquired pr after the two other pages got their pr first..

If you require help for your site, please start an own thread. It is obvious that you issue has other reasons.

Thanks.

[Russianzio12]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

I just noticed in my Google Webmaster Tools that my page with the highest PageRank for December was my page SEO Workers Search Engine Optimization Analysis Tool

Then I turned on my toolbar and I saw that my homepage has PR 5 and my inner page SEO Workers Search Engine Optimization Analysis Tool has a PR 6.

I am not aware that my site has any web navigation/architecture issues.

Is that usual now?

I would appreciate any serious inputs.

By using backlink checking tools you can figure out if it was caused by some strong PR page/site/many sites that linked to that page. It also happened to me a few times without any visible reason and it looked like some Google glitch to me till the next toolbar export

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by Russianzio12

By using backlink checking tools you can figure out if it was caused by some strong PR page/site/many sites that linked to that page. It also happened to me a few times without any visible reason and it looked like some Google glitch to me till the next toolbar export

I am sure that the cause is by some strong PR/pages/many sites. There I have no doubts.

[Russianzio12]

Webnauts, you know way more than that, lets just say you were posting the question and knew the answer to it many years ago I would do that too and see how the buzz picks up around my topic. Its a thrilling feeling i bet Don't get mad at me i am not blaming you, i am just showing my respect the "Russian way" I hope you are laughing now too...

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by Russianzio12

Webnauts, you know way more than that, lets just say you were posting the question and knew the answer to it many years ago I would do that too and see how the buzz picks up around my topic. Its a thrilling feeling i bet Don't get mad at me i am not blaming you, i am just showing my respect the "Russian way" I hope you are laughing now too...

No apologies buddy! I am laughing too!

[shakir]

Google ranking in each URL of sites. If the inner pages having Good content and more quality BL there is a chance of.. But me suggesting to get high rank for home page bcz this home page will distribute some rank to the internel pages after some time. On of my site home page having PR5 and internel pages at the begning onle 2 and after finishing one yrs got all unique and also new pages added befoer 2 months got PR5. So now m concentrating to make good rank for th ehome page

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by shakir

Google ranking in each URL of sites. If the inner pages having Good content and more quality BL there is a chance of.. But me suggesting to get high rank for home page bcz this home page will distribute some rank to the internel pages after some time. On of my site home page having PR5 and internel pages at the begning onle 2 and after finishing one yrs got all unique and also new pages added befoer 2 months got PR5. So now m concentrating to make good rank for th ehome page

Heh???