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Old 10-30-2008, 10:04 PM
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Default Value of One-Way Links with rel="nofollow"

I understand the value of a one-way link that does not have the rel="nofollow" attribute.

My question: if you post your link on blog comments, listing sites, etc. and they have the rel="nofollow" attribute, does that still count as a heavy one-way link or does it not count at all? I know the attribute stops your site from being indexed by the search engines. Is it a waste of time & effort to post url's on forums, blogs, socializing sites, etc. when there is a rel="nofollow" or are there any benefits?

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Old 10-31-2008, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Value of One-Way Links with rel="nofollow"

It doesn't count for Google..

And if you are posting for the links and not to contribute to the discussion, then you should be beat with a stick.. If you are posting for the conversation, then the link shouldn't matter..
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Default Re: Value of One-Way Links with rel="nofollow"

You'll need to do some research to determine what attributing nofollow to links is supposed to do.

These articles should help:

nofollow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No Follow Tag | Internal Use of No Follow Tag
http://www.jaankanellis.com/what-is-...-does-it-work/

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Old 10-31-2008, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Value of One-Way Links with rel="nofollow"

Although Google may not count the link, people who visit the blogs, forums, etc., where you have contributed valid comments, may visit your site through that link. Do you want "link juice" or visitors? As Feydakin indicates above, the purpose of your comments should be to contribute to the discussion.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Value of One-Way Links with rel="nofollow"

As a rule try to link for traffic. If you add value to the readers and the blog actually has readers, you will get some traffic. For what it's worth, I still think some nofollow links pass some juice. Not sure the algo has completely disregarded all nofollows yet. I have just seen too many examples that indicate this. But I am also certain Google is continually working on this.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Value of One-Way Links with rel="nofollow"

The whole reason people think they want links here there and everywhere is for link juice. Link juice transfers to page rank in google. (kinda sorta) Page rank is a HUGE deal and there are seo companies (search engine optimization) that sell link building plans, schemes, services, programs all over the place -for all kinds of fees - some even specialize in it.
Don't believe everything you see, hear, read. When it comes to ranking in the search engines (google) page rank is all but worthless in fact in my professional opinion as a professional seo practitioner with hundreds of clients and an extremely successful business- we do NOT sell page ranking or link building schemes. In fact we even wrote an article about why its kind of "bogus".
We sell true seo and our clients rank at the top of major search engines.
Because, see, what really matters most to the google is something unusual and out of the ordinary called "Content" and what is even more important than "Content" is "relevant content". The more relevant your content is for a particular search, the greater chance you will be number one. We've proven (means we did it personally) that a Page Rank Zero website (which was less than one month old by the way) could get to Number 1 (#1) on the google for a competitive search term because of something called "relevant content". Of course it also helps to "optimize" properly by applying certain techniques to your page and copy.
So when it comes to relnofoolow- its a waste of energy to worry about it unless you are worried about page rank.
That said, good quality, good neighborhood, well anchored links are always good and the more, the better. And like others have already said- a link on a blog or article or whatever should be because it has value to the reader, not because a search engine will follow it or not.
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Default Re: Value of One-Way Links with rel="nofollow"

If you're going to contribute to a discussion somewhere on the internet, and a place is provided that asks your website url, use it. It's like leaving your business card on an open bulletin board at your corner pizza shop. The accumulation of links in every crack and crevice of the net can amount to traffic and sales. While it may not directly impact your search engine placement, it can indirectly impact it. You never know who will find your link, and they could be the next blogger writing an article about your site, linking to it (without nofollow). Or they could be the next customer, for that matter. It's like leaving a breadcrumb trail, without running out of breadcrumbs.

One thing you don't want to do is, say "wow I found a site that allows comments. I'll just type a meaningless message so I can generate a link to myself." People see right through it. I know that's not what you were thinking. The main point is, if you're going to comment anyway, don't leave the "enter your website url here" space blank.
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Default Re: Value of One-Way Links with rel="nofollow"

adtastic is spot on. I have done 2 link campaigns. 1 I subcontracted because a client insisted (and soon learned why I hold the opinion I do) and 1 for SeoPros which was totally useless for a site with PR7. In fact 1 link from the right site is worth far more than a lot of the directories out there combined. The top Social Media sites for the most part have kissed the SearchPopes ring and use NoFollow. That said, I don't believe that a link from a noFollowed Social media site is not absolutely passing any benefit/juice, it could be outside of PR, so hidden from plain view. I also believe partners like YouTube, MySpace, YellowPages etc. may NoFollow but... I have to wonder if there is some juice or trust not in the PR algo that passes. I sometimes see indications but... nothing I'd hang my hat on... it could be co-incidence.

I have always looked at links as a resource reputation traffic builder or having a business value. Never as SEO because links, always have been, and, always will be, a moving target because the algo has to constantly change because any Ahole with a little time and is, at minimum, a functioning retard can manipulate it. Why did Yahoo! give webmasters a password for expedicted submission? Simple... they knew webmasters drive a big Mac Truck full of the top Content available!
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