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Old 08-19-2008, 03:50 PM
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cloaking usually refers to hiding code so that there's no view source, when you do that some solutions hide the code from the search bots too.. thus showing the text in the browser to the viewer but the search bots see nothing...
Users and bots see exactly the same content. Only the position of the code for the users and the SE is different.

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I have a couple of clients that purchased and use software to do that for a few pages in their sites for security reasons, really helps with the spambots too.... I did learn that you have to be very careful which ones you use though, the majority now seem to be alright for the search bots none of their pages or sites are penalized etc. most of them are set up not to be indexed in the engines anyway (robot.txt) and it's done alright.
No problems man. We have created the script ourselves with a lot of care.

So, we are not hiding a single letter from users or bots. Are we ok so far?
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So, we are not hiding a single letter from users or bots. Are we ok so far?
Ok, but what is the problem with different style sheets, one for disabled people and another for able?
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ExtraNets, the only one that I assisted with just blocked the bots with the robot.txt file for the pages / sections we didn't want indexed.
Ron can you explain how could you block sections (not pages) with the robots.txt?
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Ron can you explain how could you block sections (not pages) with the robots.txt?
Wasn't that the topic of the origional thread that started this more general thread about cloaking? On an extranet, I would use .htaccess on an Apache server to block IP's.

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Ok, but what is the problem with different style sheets, one for disabled people and another for able?
We do not use different stylesheets. We treat all users the same, and all are very happy.
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We do not use different stylesheets. We treat all users the same, and all are very happy.
John so what,
  1. Make a button for able users so that they can see the stylesheet for disabled people
  2. and a similar tool for disabled people.
You don't imply that Bot's can not crawl stylesheets?

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Actualy, I tested it today and it appears to have worked?!

Have you changed the source since indexing?
I did not change anything since then. It did not work so far you may see.

But still I did not hear any opinions about the last option I mentioned. Any further thoughts someone?
Once again: Google and Cloaking
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It is sad that now more feedbacks coming. Where are the experts gone?
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1) It' still summer time here; and,

2) For me, it's college football season, which is the busiest time of the year, during which I'm seldom seen on any of the boards that I frequent. There a number of threads here at WPW that are on my list of things to be re-visited when my quiet time arrives.
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