Sell your Google stock NOW! It will be worth pennies!

[collusion]

I am about to expose a huge conspiracy. Google is involved. They are not the main party, however they are supporting an extortion scheme.

I have been contacted by a major news network about the issue. The subject: Online Reputation Management.

People post defamation online and they post it anonymously. The problem is that the websites they post it on do not fact-check before it gets published. These websites end up high in Google results. And get this... These websites have OBVIOUS spam techniques such as allowing site search results to be indexed by search engines, stuffing keywords, placing EXTRA meta tags into the code, having duplicate content on subdomains and additional domains, and the list goes on.

Some of these website charge a fee and if you pay it they will post whatever you want them to regardless if you are a bad company or not. YOU, the consumer will think that the company being talked about is bad until it happens to YOU and YOU become the victim of online defamation.

These websites allow you to post negative information about children along with their physical address and phone numbers.

These websites allow your direct competition to say ANYTHING about you and they will refuse to take it down unless you pay them a HUGE down payment and monthly fees.

I was brought in as an expert on the subject and I have gathered screenshots of illegal activity, consumer fraud, and other information that will take certain websites down in the end. It will all come to a head very soon when I appear on 20/20, Dateline, XM satellite radio, and FM morning shows. The reason for the subject line is that Google is allowing SPAMMING websites to get to the first page results. When this becomes widely known public information that Google is NOT relevant then shareholders will start to see a major drop in value of the stocks they hold.

[kgun]

I have heard that story many times in different disguises. I don't buy it.

[collusion]

So my argument is solid. I assume you have nothing bad about you online that comes up on the first page of Google. My post mentioned that you would not understand until it happened to you. And that is understandable.

[kgun]

I see where you come from.

But I have noticed that Google have changed their logo at last two times the last week. Ceteris paribus that is a negative sign in corporate finance.

[collusion]

The problem is that the law protects such things online as it stands. And it is not a widely known issue. But people that matter end up being the victim and that's when it goes into consideration and ends up a media circus.

[kgun]

Originally Posted by collusion

So my argument is solid. I assume you have nothing bad about you online that comes up on the first page of Google. My post mentioned that you would not understand until it happened to you. And that is understandable.

What do you mean?

[AVC]

You are a bit late, the time to sell was months ago when the stock hit $750.00 per share.

The day when Google could possibly crash to nothing is far past, they are the world's number 1 rated brand the last few years in a row, they are diversifying into a wireless access provider, real time video portal, news, maps, the green energy business and so on.

Google is one of the world's most valuable companies as far as net worth and market capitalization is concerned passing up companies like Ford, GM and IBM long ago.

I'm sure Bill Gates is pleased with the job you are doing though !!

[kgun]

If I should discuss buying or selling stock, I would most probably go to one of the Forums and Blogs that you find on the link in the lower right corner of the secons link in my signature.

I could also make a fast Technical analysis at some of the tools that you find on the toolbar of that page like BigCharts: Stock Charts, Screeners, Interactive Charting and Research Tools.

But that is far from good enough. You need at least a week to make a serious fundamental analysis.

[collusion]

I will check it out. I am about to get into stocks.

[collusion]

Originally Posted by kgun

What do you mean?

It just means you are skeptical because you have not had it happen to you.

[kgun]

Originally Posted by collusion

I will check it out. I am about to get into stocks.

My advice. Learn Japanes Candlesitck analysis and the Elliott Wave fractal. Combine the methods and find convergence, both indicators tell the same message. Learn to rely on yourself.

And learn to analyse stock funamentally. You find a lot of information on the subpages of my site. The Amazone Book banners you find on these pages are far from random.

[kgun]

Originally Posted by collusion

I will check it out. I am about to get into stocks.

Be very careful with email services, chats and forums. That is a place for false rumors to run their own stocks.

If you buy on rumor from oher people, do you also sell on rumor from the same people? They are seldom consistent.

Timing entrance, may be moe important than timing exit. Again learn to rely on yourself.

[collusion]

So I should stay away from Wizetrade?

[collusion]

I dont want to get off topic here so if I have any questions about stock I will PM you.

[kgun]

Is that a forum?

The best advice I can probably give you is buy "The intelligent investor" of Benjamin Graham. His simple message is, you do not need to be intelligent to make intelligent investment.

You need two courses:

1. One to price a company.
2. One to value it.

Most of the information found to value a company is found in their reports and yearly accounts. Start reading from the last page and forward. Read footnotes carefully. Get more than one years report and compare reporting. Watch out if there are funamental changes in accounting and reporting practices.

As always, you may find valuable information on forums and blogs.

1. Double / triple check that information.
2. Learn to judge if a person is intersted in a stock himself to sell or buy.
3. Learn to read between the lines.

The simple message of Benjamin Grahams value investment analyis is:

Buy a stock if you think it is undervalued. It is much better to find good investment objects in a bear than in a bull market.

Good companies surrounded by negative news can be very good buy canditates. When the negative news has disappeared, the stock climbs again.

So buy that book is my recommendation.

[janeth]

Originally Posted by collusion

I have been contacted by a major news network about the issue. The subject: Online Reputation Management.

And when is this going to air?

Originally Posted by collusion

People post defamation online and they post it anonymously. The problem is that the websites they post it on do not fact-check before it gets published. These websites end up high in Google results. And get this... These websites have OBVIOUS spam techniques such as allowing site search results to be indexed by search engines, stuffing keywords, placing EXTRA meta tags into the code, having duplicate content on subdomains and additional domains, and the list goes on.

Yes and some of the website will remove the information for a fee. As a matter of fact it is the way some of them make their money.

Rip-off Report allows consumers to post complaints anonymously. However Rip-off Report does not allow complaints about its own services.

Ed Magedson the owner of Rip-off Report has posted information found on Rip-off Report, and Magedson's attempts to extort money from companies in exchange for removing (or editing) complaints posted on his website. If the site owner does not comply with Ed he will posts libelous statements about them.

However, a little work and you can bury the search result.

[collusion]

Hi Janeth,

Ripoffreport uses the spam techniques I mentioned. 20/20 aired an episode Friday about JuicyCampus.com and I immediated called my contact at ABC and scheduled a follow-up story. We will be working on that next week.

I cannot get into detail about the other projects at this time.

I agree it can be buried. I have done it many times. Not just ripoffreport but major news websites and blogs as well.

[AVC]

All this sounds like sensational spam tactics you are using to promote your own service, Google simply indexes content, they do not do the spamming.

If you or anyone else has a problem with spam in Google you should use the spam reporting form instead of engaging blatant sensational spamming of the media to promote your own websites.

I think Google could have their lawyer smash you man, they have a viable case against you here on solid legal grounds.

[collusion]

Thats interesting. Google claims to be relevant andavoid spam. If that is the case then the offending websites would be penalized rather than allowing them to claim top 10 results. Also, putting TRUE, quality information online is NOT spamming.

[AVC]

It sure is spamming on your part, that is the way I see it, you might think you are smart, but it is blatant self promotion and Google legal will eat you up for sure.

Did you report the sites to Google with your complaint about these sites ranking with spam ??

[collusion]

Google knows about the sites. They have had many complaints about the sites. These questions you ask show me that you know nothing about this subject. I think that you should really study the issue a bit more then come back here and comment with what you have learned.

[collusion]

Google legal cannot blame me (or my competitors) because THEY indexed something. That argument is invalid. Google must have seen that the content was relevant or they would not rank it high. Right?

Do you see the argument here?

[AVC]

I know all about the subject, all I have to do is look at your signature and the thread you started, I can imagine that 20/20 will do a segment on your service also when you "give them the goods on Google" and take their stock to pennies !!!

I would think that stock traders are now taking "short sell positions" as we speak for Monday morning when Google will be trading for 2 cents a share.

You are going to make "smart people" billionaires overnight !!

Have you got your short sale order in yet ???

[collusion]

I am surprised that with your posting tactics you are still allowed to post here. And you do not know about the subject if you yourself asked me if Google knows about the spamming website. Are you familiar with ripoffreport? Are you familiar with all of the stuff about how they do not take down information even if you provide solid proof it is false? Have you see the Fox expose about it at WSVN Exposes Ed Magedson

The problem here is people that do what you are doing right now. Jumping to a conclusion before knowing ANYTHING about the facts. Google knows about this at the highest levels. A friend of mine lives on the same street as Eric Schmidt and has spoken with him about the issue.

[AVC]

So you think that you should be able to post sensational nonsense that is really spam and self promotion on WPW and others should not be allowed to question your intent or motives ?

I could write a sensational story about the directory in your signature right now since you are selling paid links and promoting a reciprocal link directory on an SEO forum.

So I think you of all people should watch out, because what you are doing is not all that above board.

[collusion]

I think that people who are educated on the subject have something valuable to add. I also think that people who just jump in to voice their opinion without knowing anything on the subject should be shunned from the thread. Thats all. Nothing personal. The problem with the world right now is people cant get the facts straight because they have strong personal opinion and do not fact-check. Go watch the Fox news video at least then get back to me.

[collusion]

I will check this thread later. I have stuff to do.

[AVC]

Sorry man, your video is not working.

I guess you feel that it is hard for members here to put 2 + 2 together to see why you are promoting this story and why you are bias here, good luck with trying to censor out contrary positions.

Now tell us what exactly Google is doing illegal or wrong here other than indexing some content on the web !!!

[collusion]

I am done with you. Obviously you do not care about the facts, so I cannot say I care about your opinion. Janeth understands the situation. And I am sure you will eventually get tired of not knowing and learn about it to. Good luck on your postings.

[collusion]

To others who read this thread, my problem is not freedom of speech. It is with allowing anyone to post anything without checking the facts.

If you disagree then tell that to the parents of a 14 year old girl whos address and phone number got posted on ripoffreport. Tell it to Sergey Brin who himself has been accused of rape by someone posting on ripoffreport. And how about the man who was dead for over a decade that suddenly appeared on ripoffreport, and when the family presented a death certificate it was still not deleted from their website!

[AVC]

Originally Posted by collusion

I am done with you. Obviously you do not care about the facts, so I cannot say I care about your opinion. Janeth understands the situation. And I am sure you will eventually get tired of not knowing and learn about it to. Good luck on your postings.

So in other words you really can't explain in detail like you will for 20/20 when you are on TV what Google is doing wrong here or how they are breaking the law and how it will take their stock to 2 cents a share on Monday ???

[collusion]

Has anyone seen the 20/20 episode last friday about JuicyCampus? If not you can get the info at ABC News: Campus Gossip: Student's Horrific Ordeal

The girl was raped. Someone was allowed to post anonymously on JuicyCampus.com that the girl deserved it.

[AVC]

....and

Google indexed it !!!

Wow, now that is sensational earth shattering news man !!!

[collusion]

Wow, now that's sick. You are sensationalizing rape? Ok. Now I am done with you. Please don't talk to me anymore.

[AVC]

Right, you expect folks to believe that lie like you hope they fall for the rest of this hype and self promotion !!!

So is Google an engine that indexes content or one who should read it all and censor it ??

[collusion]

The facts:

Google knows about ripoffreport and it's spammy techniques. Google still allows said website to remain on first page results.

Chilling Effects Clearinghouse posts information about trademark infringement that has been reported to Google.

ABC and FOX both did stories on websites that allow anonymous defamation postings.

Ripoffreport does not even come out on #1 in Yahoo for it's own name. Yahoo has already decided not to take the website seriously. Same goes with MSN.

Of all of my above posts I said nothing about Google doing anything illegal. The purpose of the post is to show that Google does indeed know about the aformentioned website and it's spamming techniques and allows the website to remain indexed. IF Google was really the search engine to go to when you want relevant results then you will be disappointed.

[incrediblehelp]

collusion what is the purpose of this thread?

[collusion]

To make people aware of an seo branch called reputation management and why it is needed. I thought that was obvious by the thread starter.

I provided facts to back up my post and invited people to share their knowledge.

[AVC]

So is Google to not only index content, but now they are to exert editorial discretion on billions of documents also ?

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by collusion

To make people aware of an seo branch called reputation management and why it is needed. I thought that was obvious by the thread starter.

OK thanks for the heads up. I have been handling reputation management for years now.

[collusion]

Great incredible. So you know the difficulties in the field and the moral aspect as well.

AVC, I never said anywhere in this thread that Google should read everything indexed. I did state that Google DOES KNOW that the website is in fact spamming and allows it. No matter how many times you fill in that spam report form Google will do nothing. That is also why I mentioned their stock prices. The ONLY way that Google will care about the offending website is if Google itself is hit in the pocketbook.

I am unsure of why Google allows the website(s) in question to spam. I have not seen any adsense on the website. But the way it looks is that Google is somehow making money off of it. Some serious coin would be the only reason I can see.

Check ripoffreport source code for the keyword stuffing and excessive use of meta tags. Also, badbusinessripoff.com used to get indexed as much as Ripoffreport, but it was duplicate content. I think Ripoffreport wised up to that and thats why the domain now forwards directly to Ripoffreport.com. Also ripoffreport.com uses a subdirectory such as w3.ripoffreport.com which is duplicate content.

Ripoffreport has also targeted SEO's because we handle reputation management for our clients. See a thread at 97th floor about it at » Public Spam Report: Google Your Honeymoon with Rip Off Report has to Stop

My argument is very much solid. On top of the facts stated I also have screenshots of reports that have been edited. I also took screenshots of the google result for the edited reports which show the URL's. I took the screenshots immediately when I noticed the edits because the owner of Ripoffreport is a very paranoid.

I also have unrelated proof of comsumer fraud and privacy violations of authors of the reports. All of which will become public very soon.

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by collusion

No matter how many times you fill in that spam report form Google will do nothing.

Worked for me.

Remember they probably get 1000's of spam reports a day. I just dont see how you can expect them to act on all of them even if they truly wanted to.

[collusion]

You were able to get a ripoffreport removed by using that form?

[incrediblehelp]

m no. I used it for removing spam that was effecting client rankings

[collusion]

Gotcha. I have used it successfully on other spam sites as well. But for some reason they ignore complaints against websites like ripoffreport, scam, complaints, cheaterdb, and others like them.

[AVC]

I have news for you, Google does read the spam reports and does take action on them.

How many times have you used the form recently to report spam ???

[collusion]

I agree Google removes spam. I even said they did it for me. Please read the last post. Google does NOT remove ripoffreport even though it spams. Period.

[AVC]

Why not prove they spam right here in this thread and let the members decide based on the facts you post ??

I have not seen anything other than your opinion as of yet.

[collusion]

Why have you not personally gone to ripoffreport and verified it yourself? Isnt that the only way you will be convinced.

[AVC]

The burden of proof is upon the man who started the issue, not on those questioning you, so put up your facts and proof or move on.