Penalties: How many are there?

[kgun]

I know of the -30 penalty and that a site can be exluded completely from Google's index, but the -950 penalty that I found today was new to me. It seems like an over optimization penalty. To sum up, here are the penalties known to me:

1. -30
2. -950
3. Index exclusion.

Any other?

-950 penalty Recent External Link: Google's 950 Penalty - Part 13

-950 penalty Brief summary: Google -30 & 950 Penalties - brief summaries

[innominds]

If it is a penalty, then we do some times observe index exclusion. This is rare.

[incrediblehelp]

+ Crappy SEO Penalty is the worst penalty I know of to date. It happens all over the place to.

[SemAdvance]

Hi kgun

Those are not penalties....Google rarely penalizes however when they do it is known as a BAN

What you are referring to, are what are known as filters,

Google uses filters which are applied typically to sites who make minor mistakes or attempt spammy type manuvers to improve rankings.

[Heal3r]

And is there a means for knowing if there is such a filter (or penalty) applied to your site?

[incrediblehelp]

In Google Webmaster Tools they have been notifying websites of some forms of penalties. You would have to be signed up to get the message.

[Tubby]

The worst penalty is when a user visits your site and does not return. (user penalty)

This is a horrible penalty and I still suffer from it, but not as badly as I did a few years ago. This is the penalty we should be fighting to eliminate. .

I do not worry about Google. . .

[seo4china]

Originally Posted by Tubby

The worst penalty is when a user visits your site and does not return. (user penalty)

This is a horrible penalty and I still suffer from it, but not as badly as I did a few years ago. This is the penalty we should be fighting to eliminate. .

I do not worry about Google. . .

Yeah, when your bounce rate hit 80 or 90% then clearly you have a problem...

[kgun]

Originally Posted by Tubby

The worst penalty is when a user visits your site and does not return. (user penalty)

If he does not return to my sites (s)he penalizes her/him self

Who uses my main site (the second link in my signature) most? Us Education about 60% the last time I checked.

US Military was a fairly large user the last time I checked.

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by seo4china

Yeah, when your bounce rate hit 80 or 90% then clearly you have a problem...

Unless your goal is to get them to leave your website through adverts.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by seo4china

Yeah, when your bounce rate hit 80 or 90% then clearly you have a problem...

Is that necessarily so?

Might it not be the case that the visitor immediately finds all that he needs on the landing page itself? Or, that once there, he heeds a "call to action" which leads to a non-recorded event?

[Tubby]

Kgun said
"If he does not return to my sites (s)he penalizes her/him self"

Oh yes! . . You gotta love that sort of confidence//

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Tubby

Kgun said
"If he does not return to my sites (s)he penalizes her/him self"

Oh yes! . . You gotta love that sort of confidence//

On the other hand, is not confidence the 1st step to success. (And, yes, before someone else says it, failure as well.)

[freeadlists]

Originally Posted by Tubby

The worst penalty is when a user visits your site and does not return. (user penalty)

This is a horrible penalty and I still suffer from it, but not as badly as I did a few years ago. This is the penalty we should be fighting to eliminate. .

I do not worry about Google. . .

I had the same problem when I was trying out a new form on my website about a year ago. I had one poster from South Africa send me a rather nasty message. "I will never visit your site again because it was unbearably difficult to post an ad..." He had few other choice words for me. I've since fixed those issues but I hear where you are coming from.

[Tubby]

Incredible said
"Unless your goal is to get them to leave your website through adverts."

Yes, that is one goal I penalise myself with. I think the penalty is far less severe If you have a page that users come back to to find another advert.

I think Finding quality adverts, might be part and parcel of 'good content.' Possibly, Displaying adverts that everyone else displays is a form of self penalisation.

Google does not discriminate against us as much as we do to ourselves. I have seen sites where the owner has blamed Google for not delivering traffic. . In truth google could deliver millions and the site would have simply turned the traffic away at the door.

Google does its own thing. . I think the things we do that discriminate against ourselves is a far far more important thing to look at.

[scanmonkey]

User penalty and advert penalty are good insight. Webmasters have a lot more control than they think.

[rickanderson]

Originally Posted by deepsand

On the other hand, is not confidence the 1st step to success. (And, yes, before someone else says it, failure as well.)

Deep

Negative. Confidence can never lead to failure....sometimes 'unwanted results' but never "failure".

The word "failure" is not part of a champions vocabulary....except maybe to quote someone else that used the word.

This message was brought to you by the Tony Robbins Foundation of Vancouver, British Columbia.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by rickanderson

Deep

Negative. Confidence can never lead to failure....sometimes 'unwanted results' but never "failure".

The word "failure" is not part of a champions vocabulary....except maybe to quote someone else that used the word.

This message was brought to you by the Tony Robbins Foundation of Vancouver, British Columbia.

Bull feathers.

Sounds like a politician's double-speak.

[Dubbya]

Originally Posted by rickanderson

This message was brought to you by the Tony Robbins Foundation of Vancouver, British Columbia.

And, how is ol' "Banana Hands"???

[rickanderson]

Originally Posted by deepsand

Bull feathers.

Sounds like a politician's double-speak.

Possibly....could also be a great way of looking at the world.

Here's a link on the subject by yours truly. There will be a test at the end of the week to see what you've learned.

Rick Anderson's World's Best Athlete International Skills Competition

[kgun]

Time to take this thread back to topic?

[rickanderson]

Originally Posted by kgun

Time to take this thread back to topic?

Lol...sure...I keep forgetting that part.

Penalties...penalties...penalties....

got it..

Rick

[kgun]

But now I have to watch the hockey match agianst Canada. We lost 9 - 1 versus USA.

My prediction:

Canada 11

Norway 2.

First score after 30 seconds.

Note there is only one country that has played against Brazil in soccer and never lost, and that is ---

So nothing is impossible.

Was that off topic?

[rickanderson]

Originally Posted by kgun

Was that off topic?

Not entirely, since the outcome of hockey games and soccer matches are affected, a lot of times, by penalties...

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by rickanderson

Possibly....could also be a great way of looking at the world.

Here's a link on the subject by yours truly. There will be a test at the end of the week to see what you've learned.

Rick Anderson's World's Best Athlete International Skills Competition

Thanks; but, I'll pass, with or without a test.

[rickanderson]

Originally Posted by deepsand

Thanks; but, I'll pass, with or without a test.

....says the naked Emperor.

[rickanderson]

Originally Posted by kgun

My prediction:Canada 11 Norway 2.

8-2 final...very good guess kgun.

Rick

[Webnauts]

Is the -60 penalty mentioned if this thread? If not, here you go;

It looks that Google applies this penalty to websites that buy links. Also for keyword stuffing, where I honestly do not believe that they are very successful in that.

Many web sites that seem to have been penalized had many inbound links from web sites that linked to them from every single page of their web site (site-wide links), especially in their footers.

Therefore, sitewide links may be considered as an indicator of paid links, which Google sees that as an artificially inflate search engine rankings.

And now my questions:

If our competitors want to harm our sites, should be able to?
What about if they simply by buy links or by create scrapper sites with sitewide links to our web sites?

[kgun]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Is the -60 penalty mentioned if this thread? If not, here you go;

No it is not. Great that you mention it explicitely. I first noted it here:

Can inbound links really hurt you?