Dynamic Pages, Keywords Tools, SEO companies

[Rick_001]

Hi,
I have some queries. Please feel free to share your views.

1. Dynamic Pages: My friend's site is an e-commerce based site. It has around 2000 dynamic pages. Now, he has asked me to optimize the site especially for Google. The site has hardly 30 static pages. Rest (around 2000) are dynamic pages (.aspx). What will be the ideal solution to tackle this issue? Moreover, I have some idea about dynamic pages, which I would like to share with you all for confirmation. Please also correct me I am wrong.

a) Dynamic pages also get indexed by Google. But if it (dynamic page) has more than 3 special characters, it may have a problem to be indexed by Google and other major search engines.

b) Although dynamic pages get indexed by Google, but at any point of time, search results for a relevant key phrase wont fetch a good position for that page. That means web page of the site can not be in the best 10 for a valid key phrase.

c) There is an option like rewriting (converting) all the dynamic pages to static pages, which can solve our purpose. Google WebMaster has provided some tools, which can convert all the dynamic pages to respective static web pages.

It will be nice if anybody can explore my statements (a,b,c) in details and throw some light on handling dynamic pages.

2. Keywords Tool: There are many keywords tools (free/paid) offered by different sites. They also claim that they have the ability to handle Google search engine in terms of giving information about popular key phrases to handle google. To my knowledge, it is very difficult to know about Google's keywords data. I will be delighted if anybody can throw some light on it. Moreover, I have come across a tool called IBP. Can anybody give me some idea about IBP or any other tools (free/paid)?

3. SEO Companies: Which are the best SEO companies, who have consistently done some quality work on SEO for their clients. If I can get some information about them that will help me to create a database of SEO companies and can be point of reference for me.

I hope to get a quick and positive response.

Thanks,
Rick

[epep]

Sounds like you've landed yourself quite the project.

1. I'd look into some of the automated Google Sitemap generators that spider and compile a list automatically.

2. I like WebCEO, there are paid and free versions available.

3.

Originally Posted by Rick_001

Which are the best SEO companies, who have consistently done some quality work on SEO for their clients.

Prepare yourself for a slurry of SEO'er's pitching their pitches.

EP

[playingthegame]

I cant help with the dynamic pages I am afraid.. It may be worth asking the company that built the e-commerce package if they do an seo add on.

I use oscommerce and that has a great mod that converts the url code into readable text but not sure how that would work with dynamic pages.

I use keyword elite, keyword analyser (great for for PPC) and wordtracker together with KRA pro to find and sort keywords for theming pages.

Keyword elite has a great tool which works well for me that checks the ranking of my keywords. it is very accurate.

I hope that helps.

[depiction]

You can find a list of the top 20 Search marketing (SEO firms) here. It is a list put out by Advertising Age magazine.

http://adage.com/images/random/datac...ctpack2007.pdf

[imvain2]

I have actually created a process for my asp websites that generate "dynamic static" pages.

I prefer to make them my way instead of letting other programs do it for me. I have more control over the end product.

If you have access to do the database and know programming you could use my code as an example. Just loop through the product table and create new pages.

Also, even though each page is querystring free they are still dynamic.

Each page includes the header for the layout, which allows me to pass the title tag and meta description. Then there is an include file which displays the content of the page based a variable preset with the product/category's id.

Function CreateFileName(string)
	dim regExp, match, i, spec
	Filename = ""
	For i = 1 to Len( string )
		spec = Mid(string, i, 1)
		Set regExp = New RegExp
		regExp.Global = True
		regExp.IgnoreCase = True
		regExp.Pattern = "[A-Z]|[a-z]|[_]|[0-9]|[.]"
		set match = regExp.Execute(spec)
		If match.count = 0 then
			if spec = " " then
				Filename = Filename & "_"
			end if
		else
			Filename = Filename & spec
		End If
		Set regExp = Nothing
	Next
	CreateFileName = filename & "_for_sale.asp"
End Function

	function CreatePage(Category_ID,Category)
		NewFileName = CreateFileName(Category)
		PageBody = "<!--" & blank & "#include file=""header.inc""-->" & vbcrlf
		PageBody = PageBody & "<%" & vbcrlf
		PageBody = PageBody & vbtab & "Category_ID = " & Category_ID & vbcrlf
		PageBody = PageBody & "%"&blank&">" & vbcrlf
		PageBody = PageBody & "<!--" & blank & "#include file=""productslist.inc""-->" & vbcrlf
		PageBody = PageBody & "<" & blank & "!--#include file=""footer.inc""-->"
		Set objFSO = Server.CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
		strCountFileName = server.mappath("../") &"\" & NewFileName
		Set objCountFile = objFSO.CreateTextFile(strCountFileName, true)
		objCountFile.Write PageBody
		objCountFile.Close
		Set objCountFile = Nothing
		Set objFSO = Nothing
		CreatePage = NewFileName
end function

[John Redfield]

I just did some work for a client who has a large ecommerce website. We moved to Volusion, which was their decision, but I have to say I was very happy and impressed with SEO features, flexibility offered with the volusion package. Things like friendly URL's, keyword rich titles for each product page etc made deep op much easier than the "other" shopping cart softwares Ive seen.

For Keyword we use Keyword Discovery and WebCEO pro. Keyword analysis is only as good as the brain behind it. While quality data is key, insight into the site niche, analysis of of web stats and analystics are important as well in gathering a strong and balanced (its not all KEI) keyword strategy.

Have fun above all else!

John

[adisonedu]

I am new new to the forum but want to challenge everyone. Of course there are 20 top Search Engine Optimization companies on the net but are there people who have better results than the top 20 but don't have the "office" and "manpower" to look like a top 20. I bet there are many SEO experts that can woop companies like seoinc with ease. My company is one of them.

! Proven SEO Listings, Internet Optimization, Web Optimize, Online Marketing

Take a look at the listings for just one of my clients above. I challenge someone to show more constructive, consistent, first page listings than I can.

I laugh at some of the top companies who show 5 listings for a client that my company could get in their sleep. I wish they would show more. Also there are very few companies that can show a listing like this:

internet website services - Google Search - mine is #1

This is my original company site. So lets hear from all the people who say they can beat the top 20. Lets show them that they have competitors who are just as good or better than they at the SEO game.

[Mugzzi]

Hey,

I checked out the #1 SEO company that can do it in their sleep and filled out the quote page. When I sent it I got an error page and was told that that page does not exist. Is this a SEO tactic?

Would like to get a quote.

thanks,

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by Mugzzi

Hey,

I checked out the #1 SEO company that can do it in their sleep and filled out the quote page. When I sent it I got an error page and was told that that page does not exist. Is this a SEO tactic?

Would like to get a quote.

thanks,

And they are a #1 SEO company?
That was the best joke I heard in 2008.

[adisonedu]

That was the best joke I heard in 2008 - What a nice comment.

It seems our host changed asp aspects on the server and forgot to notify us. It is fixed and the forms are running.

By the way I did not say my company was #1, I said we could smoke some of the top 20 SEO companies with our results.

[globaljobstrading]

Rick,

In order to optimize your website for Google or any other search engine, FIRST you have to transform those dynamic pages to look like static.

There are multiple ways to do that in asp.net. In our case, we use the open source from http://www.urlrewriter.net/ which helps us to convert any static pages in dynamic on the server with two lines of codes. To see how the system works please check www.romaniantribune.net or www.greco-catolica.org

For example: using UrlRewriter.net the following link
http://www.greco-catolica.org/a317-S...e-Romania.aspx
is seen by the server as
http://www.greco-catolica.org/stireview.aspx?id=317

After you make the dynamic pages static, the SECOND step is to define a unique TITLE, Meta description and Meta Keywords for every page. You can do that by storing the values in the database.

THIRD step is to make sure your content is well formatted, using H1, bold, etc. This will help the search engines to index and prioritize the information from the website better.

For example, if you convert those dynamic pages to static, you'll have the name of the product (which is/are your keyword(s)) in the TITLE tag of the page, meta keywords and description, URL itself, and in the page. If you put the title in the page between H1, it is even better.

After you are done with these three steps, make sure you check all the pages if they are valid, if the HTML codes are not broken, or if you don't have broken links into your site. Also, there are programs like XEMU that you can use to check the links between the pages in your website. You have to make sure every page has 3-4 or even more internal links pointing to it. Also, make sure that with 2 or 3 clicks from the home page you can get to any webpage into your website.

I hope I haven't missed something about optimizing the website.

After you optimize the website itself, create a site map and point the Google, Yahoo or other search engines to it. You can do that by creating a webmaster account on Google, or something similar on other search engines.

When you are done with all these, you start a link building campaign on the internet, pointing links not only to the home page but directly to every product page (by now each product should have a "static" page). If the pages are well optimized and you have external links pointing to them, you can rank well for those keywords (which are your products).

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT thing is to be able to measure the success or insuccess of these changes by tracking details about your visitors (like ip, where they went in your website, and the most important where they came from and what was the landing page). You can use Google Analytics for that, but it is not 100% accurate and it does not provide enough details (at least details I want). Therefore we created our own system of tracking, which combined with Business Intelligence solutions help us analyzing the traffic to our clients' sites from every aspect and based on that we make decisions about what else should be changed or optimized.

For more details, feel free to access our website: www.crtbs.com/seo.aspx and www.crtbs.com/businessintelligence.aspx

Good luck and let us (everybody from this forum) know if you have any other questions.

Chris.

[davidweb]

Originally Posted by Rick_001

Dynamic Pages: My friend's site is an e-commerce based site. It has around 2000 dynamic pages. Now, he has asked me to optimize the site especially for Google. The site has hardly 30 static pages. Rest (around 2000) are dynamic pages (.aspx). What will be the ideal solution to tackle this issue?

Dynamic pages are crawled just like any other static page.
However Google gives more weightage to Good optimized page regardless of whether it is static/dynamic

Originally Posted by Rick_001

Dynamic pages also get indexed by Google. But if it (dynamic page) has more than 3 special characters, it may have a problem to be indexed by Google and other major search engines.

If your dynamic pages arent getting crawled properly, then you need to consider this option. Otherwise, you can carry on with your work. Revamping entire website at once, could lower your click rates for some months ( If your dynamic pages are ranking high on search engines).

If your dynamic pages have different descriptions/keywords and do not share same content or any tag, then Google/Yahoo wont have any issues with it.

Originally Posted by Rick_001

b) Although dynamic pages get indexed by Google, but at any point of time, search results for a relevant key phrase wont fetch a good position for that page. That means web page of the site can not be in the best 10 for a valid key phrase.

There is no such rule. Most of the forums are getting regularly crawled and indexed by search engines, regardless of whether they are dynamic index.php?p=seo_google_sandbox OR index/seo_google_sandbox.html OR index/seo_google_sandbox


As long as your pages are different in terms of meta tags, and content google wont have any issues. However you should not pass long parameters with Session ID's to your dynamic pages.

Originally Posted by Rick_001

c) There is an option like rewriting (converting) all the dynamic pages to static pages, which can solve our purpose. Google WebMaster has provided some tools, which can convert all the dynamic pages to respective static web pages.

Yes, you can use MOD-REWRITE code to convert your dynamic pages as given below :-

dynamic page : index.php?a=services
converted to static page using MOD-REWRITE as

static page : index/services ( '?a=' is replaced with /)

Originally Posted by Rick_001

There are many keywords tools (free/paid) offered by different sites. They also claim that they have the ability to handle Google search engine in terms of giving information about popular key phrases to handle google. To my knowledge, it is very difficult to know about Google's keywords data. I will be delighted if anybody can throw some light on it. Moreover, I have come across a tool called IBP. Can anybody give me some idea about IBP or any other tools (free/paid)?

You can use free keyword research tools available at : Seo Tools, ToolBox by SEO HAWK India

I am sure it will help you resolve your issue

In case you need any help you can PM me

[Rick_001]

Hi,
I would like to thank you all for your valuable inputs. I am exploring them (views) in details.

Thanks again,
Rick

[RichAtVNS]

Originally Posted by adisonedu

I am new new to the forum but want to challenge everyone. Of course there are 20 top Search Engine Optimization companies on the net but are there people who have better results than the top 20 but don't have the "office" and "manpower" to look like a top 20. I bet there are many SEO experts that can woop companies like seoinc with ease. My company is one of them.

! Proven SEO Listings, Internet Optimization, Web Optimize, Online Marketing

Take a look at the listings for just one of my clients above. I challenge someone to show more constructive, consistent, first page listings than I can.

I laugh at some of the top companies who show 5 listings for a client that my company could get in their sleep. I wish they would show more. Also there are very few companies that can show a listing like this:

internet website services - Google Search - mine is #1

This is my original company site. So lets hear from all the people who say they can beat the top 20. Lets show them that they have competitors who are just as good or better than they at the SEO game.

You really shouldn't claim first position unless you are there....
Yahoo "Camping Tents" #1 and whole first page does not have Davis on it! Do me a favor don't blow smoke! We've all heard it before...

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by adisonedu

internet website services - Google Search - mine is #1

I checked with Wordtracker, KW Discovery and other tools, and the term "internet website services" is not found to be a search term. Therefore 0% competitive term!!!

Do you mean that this seo analysis - Google Search is great? Me not!

So would you please be so kind and explain what do you want to demonstrate here? I smell scam here.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

I checked with Wordtracker, KW Discovery and other tools, and the term "internet website services" is not found to be a search term. Therefore 0% competitive term!!!

Do you mean that this seo analysis - Google Search is great? Me not!

So would you please be so kind and explain what do you want to demonstrate here? I smell scam here.

I'm a bit puzzled here re. "internet website services" being "not found to be a search term."

On Google, with quotes, approx. 8,510 results are returned; without quotes, approx. 92,700,00.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by deepsand

I'm a bit puzzled here re. "internet website services" being "not found to be a search term."

On Google, with quotes, approx. 8,510 results are returned; without quotes, approx. 92,700,00.

Is that the way you define a search term?

Let me be more specific: Search term is a term users search for, and not being indexed or not in the search engines.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Is that the way you define a search term?

Let me be more specific: Search term is a term users search for, and not being indexed or not in the search engines.

So, you meant "active" search term.

Thanks for the clarification; now your mention of something "smelling" makes perfect sense.

[Jon-WebsiteCM]

In my experience dynamic urls are NEVER spidered as heavily or ranked as high as static pages by google. For one thing, dynamic pages require a lot more server resources to load, and google does not want to risk causing a resource overload or database failure due to spidering it too heavily. We offer a url rewrite seo mod for x-cart and our clients have frequently seen a 400% or more increase in traffic a couple months after install.

In my experience, top things to address to rank well include:

1) Static Url
2) Custom Page Title
3) Custom Meta Description
4) Custom Meta Keywords
5) Keyword(s)/phrases in the page text that match 2-4 above
6) Inbound links to this page including the keyword(s)/phrase
7) Internal links to this page including the keyword(s)/phrase

[edwincms]

Hi Rick_001!

About point 1:
I'd suggest you write a a function that translated urls to friendly urls.
so the link ../productid=123 becomes this link ../some_description_of_product-123/

Have apache Mod_rewrite installed and alter your .htaccess file accordingly to make the server understand which script to parse.

I've done it a lot and it gave me some excellent indexing stats for google.

Hope this helps!

[luigip]

Originally Posted by Rick_001

Can anybody give me some idea about IBP or any other tools (free/paid)?

Try the free version of WebSeo and forget about IBP.

[DanLew]

Are the dynamic pages controlled by an admin in which you can enter specific keywords and descriptions in? If so there is no problem. One of my sites thailand - search .com which I recently converted to dynamic has around 5k pages indexed and are all of good keyword relevance and well optimized.

But I think the real question is do they want to get all their pages well targeted and ranked in google for certain keyphrases or just the home page, if it is mainly the home page than you should be all good.