Google PR updation .... Problogger PR down

[innominds]

Is Google updating the Page Rank again? I was shocked to see that Problogger.net is currently PR4 down from PR7.

Just check it out....ProBlogger - PageRank 4

[espmartin]

Many, many sites have had their PR devaluated by Google this most recent
update.

Seems the trend is set for those who sell text links - or "suspected of..."

[ctabuk]

This will help explain everything
http://searchengineland.com/071007-173841.php

I think that this is interesting in that link

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Google stressed, by the way, that the current set of PageRank decreases is not assigned completely automatically; the majority of these decreases happened after a human review. That should help prevent false matches from happening so easily.

So as I thought Google has been cruising the forum world.

[cass-hacks]

Originally Posted by espmartin

Many, many sites have had their PR devaluated by Google this most recent
update.

Seems the trend is set for those who sell text links - or "suspected of..."

The question is though, has anything except their toolbar PageRank changed?

If neither SERPs, Main index page count or secondarily, Google sourced traffic haven't change, chances are good that nothing internal to Google has actually changed which would then suggest it is just a change in the scale used to determine toolbar PageRank.

[espmartin]

Interesting to see if ONLY PR has been affected.
Time will tell. If you are reading the buzz about the recent
PR changes in the internet "trades" - you will see that there is a
definite relationship with those sites (high profile sites as well)
loosing PR and "most" of them blatant about selling text links

[cass-hacks]

Originally Posted by espmartin

Interesting to see if ONLY PR has been affected.

I'd just like to add a note that I was talking about toolbar PageRank possibly being the only thing that changed as opposed to Google's internal PageRank as well. I think you caught the distinction but I just wanted to make sure.

Have you been hit with a Pagerank drop ? makes an interesting comment, "The Pagerank drop does not seem to have an influence on other factors like website traffic or Adsense."

I don't know what Adsense has to do with it, because I don't personally use Adsense but if traffic hasn't changed, that would fit the scenario I am thinking may have caused the various sites to lose toolbar PageRank.

That assumes though that by "traffic", it is meant Google search sourced traffic.

Originally Posted by espmartin

Time will tell.

Are there any Google bookies here willing to take bets?

I'm surprised Google hasn't already caused the launch of a new major source of gambling.

Originally Posted by espmartin

If you are reading the buzz about the recent PR changes in the internet "trades" - you will see that there is a definite relationship with those sites (high profile sites as well)
loosing PR and "most" of them blatant about selling text links

There is also a definite relationship in that they are all high toolbar PageRank sites.

Wouldn't high toolbar PageRank sites almost by definition have to be high profile?

Also, if you had a high PageRank site as little as a year ago, wouldn't you likely be included in the group of people that try to profit off the value Google seems to have vested in their sites?

Being high profile and selling links could just as easily be cause and effect of having a high toolbar PageRank site and only coincidental to any toolbar PageRank changes.

But, people who could likely answer that question would be people who actually bought links from those sites.

If the actual Google internal PageRank for those sites declined, then any sites who bought links from them would be effected because the value of their paid for links would be devalued and so have a knock-on effect.

But, if only the toolbar PageRank changed due to a shift in the conversion from internal to external/toolbar PageRank, then the actual PageRank gained by those that had bought links would not change at all.

You couldn't be more right about time telling though! It will be interesting to see what happens!

[subhzash]

I have see most of the pages Google page rank has decreased. But page rank is not only source for traffic. Getting traffic is the most important factor. Now every is slowly recognising the importance of page rank. According to my experience there is no value for the page rank

[cass-hacks]

Originally Posted by subhzash

According to my experience there is no value for the page rank

Really? No value?

Since PageRank is only one signal, out of ~200 that Google uses to index and rank pages, it is easy to understand why someone might think PageRank does not have a "lot" value but since it is one of the signals Google uses, it can't really be said that it has no value.

On an unrelated note, could you please put the link to your site that you include in every post, into your forum signature? Otherwise when someone replies to one of your posts, the link has to continually be removed.

If the link is in your signature, it isn't automatically copied to replies.

[espmartin]

Now every is slowly recognising the importance of page rank. According to my experience there is no value for the page rank

Seem to be using contradicting statements here, or a language interpretation issue?
Not trying to be picky, just want to see what you mean...

[Manpasand]

Originally Posted by subhzash

According to my experience there is no value for the page rank

I am not agree with you. PR is one of the factor of ranking in Google. May be small % helps in ranking.

[martty]

A Google spokesman said in a statement: "Values in the Google Toolbar can fluctuate for a number of normal reasons, including changes in how we crawl or index the web, or changes in the link structure of the web itself."
The PageRank could be updated by Google to "to incorporate not only our view on the backlinks to a page or site, but also to incorporate our opinion of the forward links for a site".

Google algorithm tweak spooks WWW - web - Technology - theage.com.au

Thats new:
but also to incorporate our opinion of the forward links for a site

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by cass-hacks

The question is though, has anything except their toolbar PageRank changed?

If neither SERPs, Main index page count or secondarily, Google sourced traffic haven't change, chances are good that nothing internal to Google has actually changed which would then suggest it is just a change in the scale used to determine toolbar PageRank.

Exactly my same feelings Cass

[mjtaylor]

Originally Posted by martty

Google algorithm tweak spooks WWW - web - Technology - theage.com.au


[quote}
A Google spokesman said in a statement: "Values in the Google Toolbar can fluctuate for a number of normal reasons, including changes in how we crawl or index the web, or changes in the link structure of the web itself."
The PageRank could be updated by Google to "to incorporate not only our view on the backlinks to a page or site, but also to incorporate our opinion of the forward links for a site".

Google algorithm tweak spooks WWW - web - Technology - theage.com.au



Thats new:
but also to incorporate our opinion of the forward links for a site[/quote]

You're right: that's new ... I read the article, but I can't find any place else on the web that quotes a Google spokesperson saying that ...

Very powerful, if true.

Cheers, MJ

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by subhzash

I have see most of the pages Google page rank has decreased. But page rank is not only source for traffic. Getting traffic is the most important factor. Now every is slowly recognising the importance of page rank. According to my experience there is no value for the page rank

I do not not want to hijack the thread here, but I think my thread from this point can be enlightening:The Ongoing PageRank Massacre Hits Big Players

And by the way you are violating the rules of WPW here. You may not post links to your site in posts when they are off-topic. You may only have those links in your signature.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by martty

Thats new:
but also to incorporate our opinion of the forward links for a site

Internally at Google it is old process. They just never added those values to the toolbar before.

[innominds]

It seems even Youtube PR is also down to PR3.