Does Google tolerate this?

[Webnauts]

I just found a web site that is trying to achieve PR 10 within 2 years, and they invite web site owners for support: Pagerank10 - The PR10 SEO Experiment - Add Your Link, Improve your Page Rank & Website Traffic

Do you see any violation against the Google guidelines there?

And besides they offer targeted traffic from expired domains: Get Targeted Website Traffic Using Expired Domains

Would you recommend that?

I am looking forward to hear your opinions.

[incrediblehelp]

People can sell or do whatever they want with their website. It is just funny people are dumb enough to buy such bunk.

[idansh]

I just can't believe it too, but I can't blame them for trying

[seiretto]

This thing has already achieved a 6/10 pr, and has 128K links back!!!
pagerank 10.co.uk - backlinks

as far as numbers go its working for him!

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by seiretto

as far as numbers go its working for him!

numbers? whoopie!

[crankydave]

hehehehhehe...

Actually had a couple of conversations with PR10. Personally, rather clever idea.

Remember the million dollar home page? How about the pet rock? Both clever ideas in my opinion.

Nothing against any guidelines that I can see.

Traffic from expired domains? Happens all the time. I've never been a fan of "buying" traffic.

Dave <-----off to feed my pet rock

[seiretto]

Yes, it rings the note "why didnt I think of that" idea! I wonder when we will see it for sale on ebay and how much it will sell for?

Then I bet the numbers will be a big whoopie....

[pagerank10.co.uk]

Originally Posted by incrediblehelp

People can sell or do whatever they want with their website. It is just funny people are dumb enough to buy such bunk.

The people who buy pay per position advertisements on our website are very happy with them which is why most increase the value of their ads to keep on the front page, if they were not happy then surely they wouldn't keep advertising with us.

People who rent full pages from us always come back and rent more because they too are happy with their chosen keywords getting on google pages 1-3

People who buy fixed rate ads have either decided to pay for years in advance or set up direct debits to make sure they don't lose their advertising space.

The participants get free links and ive had emails saying how pleased they are with the results.

The expired domain traffic is not supplied by us, we are just affiliates with revisitors.com, but they have taken the trouble to build a custom page and send out custom emails for customers who buy via our form.

We are constantly trying to think of new ideas to keep the up with people wanting to purchase ads without making it look just like a site full of ads.

We have never had a single complaint since the website started in april 2006 and so I would be hard pressed to see what exactly is bunk

Lee

[ctabuk]

Firstly - thank you for explaining your thoughts - and welcome to WPW -

If you wander your way through this massive forum you will see the topic of Google Page Rank and the famous toolbar time and time again.

Pagerank Toolbar is not what Search Engine Optimization is all about and this is a SEO forum. Incrediblehelp is one of the best SEO guys that you will ever have the pleasure to meet.

Pagerank numbers 1 to 10 are simply a 'gimmick' used by the toolbar people to help sell a product - toolbars are spyware - they have click through ads - now if someone is daft enough to think that the rating 1 to 10 is going to get them higher in the rankings - fine - let them think that. But the reality is that a site can have a PR of 9 and appear on page 100 - and a site of zero or one can be top. It's all about relevancy and linking and correct optimization.

We wish you every success with your goals.

[pagerank10.co.uk]

Hi Ctabuk and thanks for taking the time to reply to my post.

Ill have a browse through the forum as you advise, although i do realise that the pagerank toolbar is a gimmick and never thought anything else.

All I can say is if it is a gimmick or not the gimmick works for me and for everyone who is on our website, so the end result is at the end of the day it works.

Our site is also a gimmick just like the toolbar, gimmicks work and always have done, which inturn gives us thousands of links which then gives us high serps in the google search engine which is also beneficial to everyone involved.

SEO is not the only way to get traffic to your website, SEO is getting too competative and there are only so many places on page 1 of google, sometime thinking up of a good gimmick is a much better way of getting what you want.

Lee

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by pagerank10.co.uk

Our site is also a gimmick just like the toolbar, gimmicks work and always have done, which inturn gives us thousands of links which then gives us high serps in the google search engine which is also beneficial to everyone involved.

Welcome to the forum Lee. Do you think your "gimmicks" go against Google guidelines? Do you think one day you may wake up and your websites or client websites may be gone from the SERPs because of these gimmicks?

[pagerank10.co.uk]

Maybe so, who knows, to tell the truth im not too concerned about Google, if it happens ill deal with it, all i can say is it works now and if it doesn't work in the future then ill think of something else. Im certainly not going to let google rule my internet life like most others do.

People worry far too much about google and their guidlines, take them with a pinch of salt, im sick of hearing about what google likes and dislikes I write my websites how I like whether or not google likes it or not, and for the time being google appears to like it even though it probably breaks every rule in googles book.

Ive been creating websites for about 8 years now, every time ive tried to stick to googles rules and ive been stuffed by them, this time I thought stuff google and it appears to be working or at least its worked for longer than my old sites.

Google is here to make money, like all of us. Google will create guidlines which will eventually push more money towards them and take it away from everyone else, they rob affiliates by altering algorithms to kick them out of the organic results, and now they are increasing PPC prices now they have gathered all the data for themselves.

The thing is everyone is following google guidlines like sheep, once everyone is under control 'including the google grassers' google will be the only ones on the net making any money and it will become an extremely boring place to be... even now imagine how many online businesses they have ruined because of greedy google, all websites seem to be clones of each other to stay within these guidlines, and you can bet 90% of them are making bugger all money in the process.

Im surprised how many people are actually brainwashed by Google, and how many people who really do get upset by the words 'Page Rank', I believe my website says it all, it helps the people out who google rob, and it pisses the people off who love google.

Oh, thanks for the welcome by the way

Lee

[Tubby]

I think it has always been that the webmaster decides what goes on the site, and a good idea will always over-ride google...

I think we tolerate google.