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Old 04-09-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Automated Link Exchanging

I've put off link exchanging for a long time, as my sites were getting decent natural search results. That has changed, so now I've gotta get into the practice of building out links.

Is there a standard link exchange software that many people use? Any you all would recommend?

I've also been contacted by an India Based link exchange company. Has anyone ever used one of these with success? I have no problem paying for link exchang e services (as I find the process dreadfully boring).

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Old 04-09-2007, 09:33 PM
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Instead of using link exchanges and outsourcing to India. Consider other techniques that would actually work like SMO and Link Baiting.

Check this post here:

Link Baiting and Social Media Optimization , Huh?
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Nothing good ever comes from the words 'Outsource to India' and 'Automated Link Exchange'
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LOL
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:22 PM
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It doesn't matter what kind of software you use for linkspamming, it's still spamming, and people are still going to ignore it and consider you a pest. If your automated requests even make it past their spam filters...

A few of them have gotten better at making it almsot sound like a message from an actual human, but since the requests in question are so completely inane, it's still not going to fly. Today's prize bit of linkspam? A request - chattily worded in order to try and sound like a real e-mail - for a site dealing with environmental issues and spirituality to exchange links with a limousine service! Because the two sites have "so much in common". What, exactly, do they have in common? Apparently, the use of the word "ideas". Yep, that's a lot of common ground there...
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default If you Build it, They will come

A voice wafted from the depths of the cornfield " If you build it, they will come"

Build a quality site, submit it to quality directorys and search engines and if everything is done to rights, they will come.

Most link exhanges are not worth the effort as they have been recognized by the big boys.

Build it,
Optimize it (hopefully at the same time)
and submit it....

then market it.
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:15 AM
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Automated link exchange is one way to save your time. But it doesn't guarantee to get quality link partners.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: Huh?

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Nothing good ever comes from the words 'Outsource to India' and 'Automated Link Exchange'
trying to make me laugh so hard coffee come out of nose again?

Anyway, I kninda agree, but some clinets can stubborn and impatient.

Prehaps some of you have had a similiar conversation:

BOSS: What do these sites above me in google have that i don't
SEO: They have quality content that people with web sites feel complelled to link to, the more sites that link to do you the higher your rank in google.

BOSS: Well how can I get this and how long will it take?
SEO: There isn't very many people that are going to be compelled to make links to web site about you widget repair service in anytown, KS. We'd have to put lots of articles and other content on your site that establish you as an expert in the feild. Once that content is built, slowly and natuarlly, other sites will see it and link to it, eventually.

BOSS:How much and how long?
SEO: $xxxx.00 per month for about 3-6 months, then abnother 6-12 months for the links to trickle in?

BOSS: Quit yanking my chain and buy some damn links. Get it done by next months meeting!
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default If you exchange links, use common sense and human review

I wouldn't waste time with any type of automated link program and DEFINITELY would not hire an overseas link-exchange company. I would either write my own link management system (which is how I do mine) or simply use static HTML link pages that are carefully edited to include only high quality links that are relevant to your specific site's audience. Be ruthless as an editor and allow only sites that you or your users will be likely to find useful and nothing else. This will keep your directory from becoming a linkspam heaven and could eventually lead to your site becoming an "authoritative source" if you do a really good job. Even if you are careful with the quality of your links, the common automated solutions will probably hurt you because they are also used by so many crappy linkfarms, so unless you really tweak the templates so that they are unrecognizable to search bots, even a well edited directory based on common software could be flagged as a linkfarm. It's all about quality, not quantity. Also, grow your link directory slowly over time. If your link directory goes from 10 links to 1000 links in a few days, this is an obvious sign that you are just playing games.
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Default Re: Huh?

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Nothing good ever comes from the words 'Outsource to India' and 'Automated Link Exchange'
Lol but true

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Nothing good ever comes from the words 'Outsource to India' and 'Automated Link Exchange'
trying to make me laugh so hard coffee come out of nose again?

Anyway, I kninda agree, but some clinets can stubborn and impatient.

Prehaps some of you have had a similiar conversation:

BOSS: What do these sites above me in google have that i don't
SEO: They have quality content that people with web sites feel complelled to link to, the more sites that link to do you the higher your rank in google.

BOSS: Well how can I get this and how long will it take?
SEO: There isn't very many people that are going to be compelled to make links to web site about you widget repair service in anytown, KS. We'd have to put lots of articles and other content on your site that establish you as an expert in the feild. Once that content is built, slowly and natuarlly, other sites will see it and link to it, eventually.

BOSS:How much and how long?
SEO: $xxxx.00 per month for about 3-6 months, then abnother 6-12 months for the links to trickle in?

BOSS: Quit yanking my chain and buy some damn links. Get it done by next months meeting!
How very true
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Nothing good ever comes from the words 'Outsource to India' and 'Automated Link Exchange'
Hmmm ... well I don't know about 'Outsource to India' *AND* 'Automated Link Exchange' ... but I do know that good has come to me from 'Outsource to India' and 'Website Design.'

I don't have to take the time to design sites unless I am inspired - and can devote myself to SEO. I have found a couple of designers who are reliable and competent - not to mention inexpensive! -and who readily adjust their code to be what I consider SE friendly.

I have shied away from outsourcing link building, though - I am too interested in hand picking my link relationships.

I don't like automated link directories. Most don't rank well as hand built directories and that will become more and more true as Google figures out how to discount recips based on directory style - I believe that are already doing that. I have seen links pages lose PR - hand built or otherwise.

Automated link directories also don't provde the sort of flexibility I believe is needed to ensure that link pages will remain viable when Google has removed the PR from most link exchange pages, whether handbuilt or automated.

I have been adding content to my links pages for a long time now. And inviting other webmasters to give me copy for the pages with their links embedded contextually.

I believe the days of PR on link pages with long lists of links in the format Title<link>: Description are severely limited. As ever, we find in the end, Content is KIng.

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Old 04-20-2007, 07:22 PM
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Default Automated Link Exchange

I find automated link systems irritating and doubt there effectiveness. I recently got e-mail from a link partner asking if I really wanted to change my link. Checking I discovered that a local jewelry store had hired a Pakistani site to get links. Their method had a cleverness. They just claimed they owned my site and asked the site to exchange links with the link I had already posted. They seem to have vanished lately, but I believe you should be extremely careful with contractors
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