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Old 02-15-2007, 08:55 AM
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Default Google re-inclusion request via webmaster tools

I recently purchased a domain name that corners the industry that I am in.

Previously the domain had only adverts & "buy this domain" on it, so I wasn't surprised that its not indexed by Google.

After uploading the new content, I then went and added it to "my sites" in Googles webmaster tools, verified ownership and submitted a sitemap.

Almost a week later, G has crawled the site twice & it is still not indexed. Not only that, but the cache in webmaster tools is for another domain name entirely, which makes me think that at one stage it had a redirect on it.

To rectify the situation, I've submitted a re inclusion request and also used that other (can't remember the name) tool to ask G to remove the current cache.

Has anyone had any problems like this before? Any advice? Also, if anyone has used the reinclusion tool, how long did you wait before you got response...if you got a response?
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:31 PM
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How does this domain "corner the market"?

Not sure what the question here is. If the domain is brand new it takes time for the SE"s to give it value. I would consider a link building campaign.

You cant expect results from the SE's just because your domain name is cool or the best.
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roxane: I had a client website who's domain used to have another website on it. When I redid the site Google removed the old URL's from its index while completely ignoring the new site's URL's. Googlebot regularly visited the site (visits to sitemap.xml and robots file), but no pages in the G index. After waiting three months i got fed up and asked for a re-inclusion. Two weeks later the new site pages were indexed.

I would be very careful before purchasing a domain with another website on it. That website or server host could have a history of SPAM or the previous owner may have done some black-hat SEO on the SE's. So I would think twice before buying a domain like that.

In your case I believe Google did what they did to my client site. I think they know that if the new site owner is legit, then eventually they will receive a re-inclusion request with a nicely written message.
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:02 AM
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How does this domain "corner the market"?

Not sure what the question here is. If the domain is brand new it takes time for the SE"s to give it value. I would consider a link building campaign.

You cant expect results from the SE's just because your domain name is cool or the best.
It's not the domain name in my signature, if that's what's got you confused. ..I didn't want to link drop.

The domain isn't new, it's just changed ownership.
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:05 AM
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roxane: I had a client website who's domain used to have another website on it. When I redid the site Google removed the old URL's from its index while completely ignoring the new site's URL's. Googlebot regularly visited the site (visits to sitemap.xml and robots file), but no pages in the G index. After waiting three months i got fed up and asked for a re-inclusion. Two weeks later the new site pages were indexed.

I would be very careful before purchasing a domain with another website on it. That website or server host could have a history of SPAM or the previous owner may have done some black-hat SEO on the SE's. So I would think twice before buying a domain like that.

In your case I believe Google did what they did to my client site. I think they know that if the new site owner is legit, then eventually they will receive a re-inclusion request with a nicely written message.
That is quite re-assuring, thank you!

I just had a bit of a panic when I saw that Google had crawled my site but not indexed it. I guess I'll just have to be patient for a while, and see how things go.
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Two months ago I gave my sites ownership to another one and all the site was changed, it got indexed as soon as the google bot saw it.As you said be patient for a while, and see how things go.Do a link bulding campaign.Whatever your domain is, Google loves good content and links, it can't pretend as if it doesn't know your site if you have good content and links.
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I believe I have somehow the same problem in a different matter.
I moved my webspace and domain www.hebestreit-reisebuero.de to another host. If I ask Google for keywords "hebestreit reisebuero", another domain appears on top position, supported from my old host company.

What can I do to get this top position for my keywords hebestreit-reisebuero back?

Meanwhile I created a new other website. But my old site had top Google positions. And so I try to re-animate this domain to get probably back the old positions. And afterwards I try to lead them to the new site.
But if the old company is probably still striking me anyhow, what can I do?

Thank you for your help and your ideas,

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I just checked my keywords once again. Google is presenting now 2 links.
The first one with only the URL leads to my newly produced site.
The second link produces a 404-error because I cannot reproduce the old site tree.
Its becoming still more difficult for me.
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Try to direct links to your old site to the new one.I mean talk with the sites' administrators to link to your new site.Decrease the numbers of links to your old site.I had deleted my old site last June, but results from it are still in Google's index for some search terms.Or you can inform Google about them using its spam reporting service.We usually use it to inform Google about the content stolen from our sites.It works.Maybe you can try that.But you should say them clearly you moved old sites' content to the new, otherwise they can delete your new site from their index too.
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After uploading the new content, I then went and added it to "my sites" in Googles webmaster tools, verified ownership and submitted a sitemap.
Unfortunately, roxane, that's one of the worst possible things you could have done (notify Google of the new content on an expired domain).

You see, Google automatically bans domains that are "expired". So, since the domain was already in the index, you just told Google that it's expired (which is good for them and not for you).

Anyhow, if you buy a domain that's already in the Google index I wouldn't notify Google in any way (i.e., make a reinclusion reqeust, add a sitemap, add it in webmaster central, etc.). All I would do is get more links to the domain and work on link popularity. The domain will be crawled and indexed and treated just like any other domain. But, if you notify Google about the expired domain or its change of ownership then your digging yourself into a hole.

Links from other sites spur crawling and indexing--that's what you need to concentrate on. I wouldn't mess with any of it in Google's webmaster central tools area.
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:15 AM
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After uploading the new content, I then went and added it to "my sites" in Googles webmaster tools, verified ownership and submitted a sitemap.
Unfortunately, roxane, that's one of the worst possible things you could have done (notify Google of the new content on an expired domain).

You see, Google automatically bans domains that are "expired". So, since the domain was already in the index, you just told Google that it's expired (which is good for them and not for you).

Anyhow, if you buy a domain that's already in the Google index I wouldn't notify Google in any way (i.e., make a reinclusion reqeust, add a sitemap, add it in webmaster central, etc.). All I would do is get more links to the domain and work on link popularity. The domain will be crawled and indexed and treated just like any other domain. But, if you notify Google about the expired domain or its change of ownership then your digging yourself into a hole.

Links from other sites spur crawling and indexing--that's what you need to concentrate on. I wouldn't mess with any of it in Google's webmaster central tools area.
Actually, the domain was NOT indexed before I purchased it (if I typed "site:domainname" in G, no pages showed up). Now after the reinclusion request, in the past couple of days, a few of the pages have been indexed. The only thing is that the cache of the other site is still showing up.
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