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Old 02-06-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Need help - strange disappearance from search results

We've been graced with the #1 spot (poolfelt.com) for kw "pool table felt" for a long time and on checking - poof - nowhere to be found in the first 10 serp pages. Ran metrics at Link Adage on 2/6 with the results posted here (saved as an image):
http://www.poolfelt.com/gserps2_6_07...nk%20adage.jpg
I do not think the full range of Google data centers is shown but if the serps for the site/kw are listed as #1 then I'm curious as to why the site is Now absent from the search results. Comments please?
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:40 PM
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We've been graced with the #1 spot (poolfelt.com) for kw "pool table felt" for a long time and on checking - poof - nowhere to be found in the first 10 serp pages. Ran metrics at Link Adage on 2/6 with the results posted here (saved as an image):
http://www.poolfelt.com/gserps2_6_07...nk%20adage.jpg
I do not think the full range of Google data centers is shown but if the serps for the site/kw are listed as #1 then I'm curious as to why the site is Now absent from the search results. Comments please?
Looks like you're back at number one to me! Just did a search on Google.com from here in Florida.

This happened to me, sort of, just last week. We have a big site that just moved onto a new server; same domain of course, but different IP address. Google still shows us with 56,000 of our total 300,000 dynamic pages, just as before the move.

However, they are no longer sending us visitors from the USA datacenters. They do still show us a PR4, and sometimes send us a few visitors from around the edges of the USA, but nothing from the bulk of the country. This means our total traffic is down about 65% or so, sometimes more!

Yahoo, MSN and others still show us the same, but all searches for our highly ranked pages before the move now show us totally missing. No listings on top 100 or more pages. Gosh.

This happened exactly 24 hours after the domain was assigned to the new IP address, or exactly as the move was fully promulgated.

We have two guesses: (1) maybe the IP address to which we moved had a bad reputation or had been banned or something? We can't see it listed on ban lists, but maybe something like that, and (2) maybe the Google Analytics still thinks we're on the old server and it somehow is delaying our rankings until it resolves the new IP address somehow.

Just guesses.

You can see the site at level1diet.com. Still working fine and ranked and so on. No SERPs in USA, or very very little.

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Old 02-07-2007, 01:04 AM
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We're popping back in at #1 on occasion but we've been a steady #1 or #2 for months. No change to IP or any significant changes to the index page.
I believe there is a way to check serp across all the Google DC's so if someone has a link to that tool it's appreciated.
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:19 AM
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I believe there is a way to check serp across all the Google DC's so if someone has a link to that tool it's appreciated.
Google serps are now updated with an almost daily data push and they are monkeying around with the filters on occasion.

Here is the tool you are looking for:

http://www.mcdar.net/dance/index.php
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:55 AM
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Thanks for that link Scan -
I checked each of the options and came up #1 for the kw "pool table felt" in each one. The only exception was in .allins
So I'm still somewhat confused on the 'now your in - now your out' serp for the kw.
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Weds 2/7 - tried searching Google and still the same results. Sometimes our site is #1 and the other times it's not in the first 10 pages of serp. Could sure use some other comments or opinions on what is going on with the search results. (see first post in this thread for details). Checked the metrics again at http://www.mcdar.net/dance/index.php and still coming up #1 across all the data centers.
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Not sure what is so confusing to everyone. The days are gone of stagnant or stable SERPs. I have been saying this for over a year now on WPW.

With search load balancing on close to hundred G datacenters, localization and personalization of search...we will will not see stable results anymore.

As everyone can see it is just getting worse for those of us that run ranking checkers and use it as a metric for personal SEO gauges or for clients.
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Your points are noted Incred -
I can understand being in #1 position one day then possibly moving down and back up and around - but -
how does one go from the #1 position to non-existant and then back to #1 during different times of the day - especially when the metrics from all the data centers list you as #1.
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Your points are noted Incred -
I can understand being in #1 position one day then possibly moving down and back up and around - but -
how does one go from the #1 position to non-existant and then back to #1 during different times of the day - especially when the metrics from all the data centers list you as #1.
Well if someone at Google can answer this I would love to know. We cant help it if Google data pushes act in this fashion. Their may not be a honest answer that they would like to divulge to us.
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The SERPS for "health insurance colorado" have been very stable lately. We've (www.insuranceshoppers.net) been at #4 (sometimes dropping to #5 and immediately back again) for the last year or two. Then yesterday, poof - nowhere to be found. We're not in the supplemental results and we haven't been banned because it doesn't say anything about it in my webmaster tools and we pull up for other queries.
Does it possibly have something to do with the googlebomb update?
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From what I can see you are back on #4, Lukkyjay.

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We cant help it if Google data pushes act in this fashion. Their may not be a honest answer that they would like to divulge to us.
Indeed. It is too drastic for a data refresh.
I could only wildly speculate about hitting the search in the middle of rewriting data and/or some deep iteration.
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...Does it possibly have something to do with the googlebomb update?
I doubt it. The timing is wrong. Also unlikely unless you had google bombed yourself into the serps.
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From what I can see you are back on #4, Lukkyjay.
Weird! It still don't see it anywhere. Oh well, as long as other people are pulling it up still, I guess there is nothing to panic about.
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I see you sitting at #1 at the moment.
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Oh well, as long as other people are pulling it up still, I guess there is nothing to panic about.
If your traffic is steady or rising, there is nothing to panic about, regardless of Google.
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Dartman...did this sort itself out for you? Did you need to change anything?

We're having a similar problem with a site we've designed: . www.preserveaceiling.com. It's been in the top 10 for "ceiling cleaning" for quite a while. It's currently not showing in the top 100 at the datacenters I checked.

Your situation sounds somewhat familiar. We've made no changes to the site or the hosting. It just disappeared from G. (Still ranking as it always has in Y and MSN).
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