Google Algorithm

[balinese]

Hello Ser,

2 month ago, my website # 1 position in Google.
But now, down to #9
I have cheking the site # 1 until # 8 is not good pages Rank. some of website is PR 1 or PR 2.
My website PR 5.

About link, some of website only have under 200 link, my website have 6000 link popularity.

How my website position can be change ?

[Webnauts]

Be happy that your site did not disappear in Google.

[buddhu]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Be happy that your site did not disappear in Google.

Wow, disappointing response there, Webnauts. :(

The guy's question is fair enough. His site, with link popularity has dropped below sites with far fewer IBLs. In that situation I doubt I'd be happy just to sit back and be grateful that I didn't get dumped altogether.

balinese, it may be possible for sites to outrank you with fewer backlinks if, for example, most of your IBLs are low quality - mostly free directories, unrelated reciprocals, paid links in "Sponsored links" columns and links at the bottom of pages with 200 other links on them.

If your competitors have a bunch of one way links from high PR, closely related "authority" and trusted sites, on pages with few outbound links, they could easily trump your link volume.

The other thing to realise is that to rank for specific keywords it is good to have helpful text in the link anchors. If all your IBLs simply have your URL as the anchor text, for example, you are not getting the maximum benefit from them when it comes to your rankings for specific keywords.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by buddhu

Wow, disappointing response there, Webnauts. :(

What else can I say if no URL is provided? I always look into details when I answer members questions, if they tell which site exactly they are talking about.

[swebm]

can help in this case?

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by swebm

can help in this case?

What do you mean? I didn't get that. :)

[swebm]

To write about all this situation to Google

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by swebm

To write about all this situation to Google

He can expect an answer in his next life though. If not later. :)

[Janna122003]

Remember that PR is not the only bases of google in ranking sites.

[balinese]

hello Webnauts

Thank for your informations. About my site is www.balinesecrafts.com and for keyword I mean is "bali furniture" .
Around 1 years my site in #1 and now is down to # 9.

Please inform to me back for to know about my site.
best regards

Made S

Originally Posted by Webnauts

What else can I say if no URL is provided? I always look into details when I answer members questions, if they tell which site exactly they are talking about.

[scanmonkey]

Originally Posted by balinese

About link, some of website only have under 200 link, my website have 6000 link popularity.

How my website position can be change ?

Google is downgrading link exchanges. You will need to find new ways to generate inbound links.

[activeco]

Web is in everlasting change and growing constantly. You can't expect to reach the top and stay there forever.
Your efforts and abilities (including financial) are usually mirrored in the SERPs.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by activeco

Web is in everlasting change and growing constantly. You can't expect to reach the top and stay there forever.
Your efforts and abilities (including financial) are usually mirrored in the SERPs.

The Web is growing faster than its population though.
And that is the main problem. :)

[ctabuk]

Originally Posted by balinese

hello Webnauts

Thank for your informations. About my site is www.balinesecrafts.com and for keyword I mean is "bali furniture" .
Around 1 years my site in #1 and now is down to # 9.

Please inform to me back for to know about my site.
best regards

Made S

You are over using the word Bali by miles in your keyword tags - use it twice. You need more links - so what I would do is
1 - go to profile add your URL
2 - Run the site by www.sitereportcard.com
3 - Totally ignore any suggestions that linking to high toolbar pagerank will make you rank higher. Link where you want to.
4 - review your competitors websites and follow their linking by using a YAHOO search box and typing "theirsite" Yahoo shows many of the Google IBL's that Google will not show you.
5 - Change your tags as suggested
6 - change the colour system on your site - it is slowing down your download time - the bots get bored quickly.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by ctabuk

6 - change the colour system on your site - it is slowing down your download time - the bots get bored quickly.

What do you mean with that David?

[Webnauts]

I guess we should start with on-site optimization, and here are my first tips.

1. If you are targeting the keyphrase Bali Furniture, use only that keyphrase for your homepage title tag.

2. Your description meta tag looks great.

3. As Ctabuk said above, don't repeat though more than once a keyword in your keywords meta tag, even if they are in keyphrases.

4. Place your stylesheets and possible scripts if you have, which I haven't seen in an external file.

5. Change the headers of your navigation boxes to headers <h2>s instead of using strong fonts, which you can style them with CSS. The same with the header of your products: Best Seller and New Product Indonesia Bali Furniture

6. Add at the very bottom of your page the text you are using now in your title tag.

7. IMPORTANT!!! Use on every page a unique title tag, otherwise you are spamming the strongest ranking factor. And always take care to use unique and relevant to each page meta description and keywords tags. Feel free to test them with my tool found in my signature.

8. Try to clean up so much you can the HTML errors of your page. But no need to kill yourself for that. Fix what you can.

Just a question: What do you need those banners at the bottom of your page? They spoil your beautiful design. And are you sure they are not bad neighborhoods?

And do me a favor before you do any changes. Please post here your SERPS position for your keyword with Google, Yahoo and MSN if possible, so we can see how things are going. But do not expect results over night. OK?

Very good work so far!

[Gary Golden]

I have ranked number #1 for years on Google for the term "Ohio Classifieds", now not even on the radar!

Made some adjustments and hope to regain rankings, rank good on Yahoo and MSN though, all I can think is GOOGLE changed there algorythm and I got the boot.

[scanmonkey]

Originally Posted by Gary Golden

I have ranked number #1 for years on Google for the term "Ohio Classifieds", now not even on the radar!

Made some adjustments and hope to regain rankings, rank good on Yahoo and MSN though, all I can think is GOOGLE changed there algorythm and I got the boot.

It doesn't look like an algo change. Google appears to be tweaking some variables in the daily (1-2 day) data pushes.

Don't just focus on inbound links. Outbound links that are relevant can help your rankings.

[ctabuk]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

What do you mean with that David?

The deep purple took a long time to download yesterday

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by Gary Golden

I have ranked number #1 for years on Google for the term "Ohio Classifieds", now not even on the radar!

Been seeing a lot of filtering in the past month. What kind of backlinks did you have primarily? Reciprocals? Link from unrelated websites, but with targeted anchor text? I would start another thread Gary.

[balinese]

Hello Webnauts

google see the old website to rank ?

best regards

Made

Originally Posted by Gary Golden

I have ranked number #1 for years on Google for the term "Ohio Classifieds", now not even on the radar!

Made some adjustments and hope to regain rankings, rank good on Yahoo and MSN though, all I can think is GOOGLE changed there algorythm and I got the boot.

[balinese]

Hello Webnouts

Good morning...
I am try to use you suggest.. but still not back ranking my website.
And now my website is rank 33 in google for keyphrase "bali furniture"

Google have been change the algorythm ?

Please help me...

best regards

Made

Originally Posted by Webnauts

I guess we should start with on-site optimization, and here are my first tips.

1. If you are targeting the keyphrase Bali Furniture, use only that keyphrase for your homepage title tag.

2. Your description meta tag looks great.

3. As Ctabuk said above, don't repeat though more than once a keyword in your keywords meta tag, even if they are in keyphrases.

4. Place your stylesheets and possible scripts if you have, which I haven't seen in an external file.

5. Change the headers of your navigation boxes to headers <h2>s instead of using strong fonts, which you can style them with CSS. The same with the header of your products: Best Seller and New Product Indonesia Bali Furniture

6. Add at the very bottom of your page the text you are using now in your title tag.

7. IMPORTANT!!! Use on every page a unique title tag, otherwise you are spamming the strongest ranking factor. And always take care to use unique and relevant to each page meta description and keywords tags. Feel free to test them with my tool found in my signature.

8. Try to clean up so much you can the HTML errors of your page. But no need to kill yourself for that. Fix what you can.

Just a question: What do you need those banners at the bottom of your page? They spoil your beautiful design. And are you sure they are not bad neighborhoods?

And do me a favor before you do any changes. Please post here your SERPS position for your keyword with Google, Yahoo and MSN if possible, so we can see how things are going. But do not expect results over night. OK?

Very good work so far!

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by balinese

Hello Webnouts

Good morning...
I am try to use you suggest.. but still not back ranking my website.
And now my website is rank 33 in google for keyphrase "bali furniture"

Google have been change the algorythm ?

Hey Balinese. Things can not happen within some hours or days after you make such changes.

Sit back and wait for while. It can take up to 3 months until you see the real results of your tweaks.

[kgun]

This code:

<style type="text/css">
<!--
a:link {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
color: #CC0000;
text-decoration: none;
}
a:visited {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
color: #CC0000;
text-decoration: none;
}
a:hover {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
color: #FF9B59;
text-decoration: none;
}
-->
</style>

Should be put in an external style sheet (CSS) file. If you use the same styling across your site, that style sheet should be imported to all of your pages. That will also marginally speed up your site, since the style sheet is already in the computers memory. In addition, if you want to change how links are shown on your site, you only change it one place, in the external stylesheet. You can link in at least two ways:

• <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.yoursite.com/stylesheets/styles.css" />
  
• <style type="text/css" media="screen">
  @import url(http://www.yoursite.com/stylesheets/styles.css);
  </style>
  
  You should use the last, since it is best for users using older browsers.
  

[incrediblehelp]

Just to reiterate:

Understand rankings fluxuate all of the time. The days of stable SERPs has been over for sometime now. Don't get hung up on if you toolbar changes and your rankings change from position #1 to #8 to #3.

Instead concentrate on getting as many high quality one-way links as you can using the anchor text "bali furniture". As said above link exchanges are not the "highest quality" links when dealing with Google.

As ctabuk has stated check out what IBL's you competitors have. Establish if you can get the same ones and go get em'

[Gary Golden]

Originally Posted by kgun

This code:

<style type="text/css">
<!--
a:link {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
color: #CC0000;
text-decoration: none;
}
a:visited {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
color: #CC0000;
text-decoration: none;
}
a:hover {
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 11px;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: bold;
color: #FF9B59;
text-decoration: none;
}
-->
</style>

Should be put in an external style sheet (CSS) file. If you use the same styling across your site, that style sheet should be imported to all of your pages. That will also marginally speed up your site, since the style sheet is already in the computers memory. In addition, if you want to change how links are shown on your site, you only change it one place, in the external stylesheet. You can link in at least two ways:

• <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.yoursite.com/stylesheets/styles.css" />
  
• <style type="text/css" media="screen">
  @import url(http://www.yoursite.com/stylesheets/styles.css);
  </style>
  
  You should use the last, since it is best for users using older browsers.
  

Thanks for the information, opens alot quicker!

[kgun]

You find related threads here:

Style sheet switcher and hiding style sheets

Whats new in web2.0 ?

[Cloggie192]

balinese -
I know the feeling you are expeiencing right now ad i am int the same boat - down to 140th from 14th - all be it my situation may look like it is the age of the site that is the factor - check out this thread as the advice that the veterans offer is really worthwhile

Google Algorithm Update Analysis article - relief and madness

Thanks or all the help once again

[coolguy27]

Originally Posted by balinese

Hello Ser,

2 month ago, my website # 1 position in Google.
But now, down to #9
I have cheking the site # 1 until # 8 is not good pages Rank. some of website is PR 1 or PR 2.
My website PR 5.

About link, some of website only have under 200 link, my website have 6000 link popularity.

How my website position can be change ?

How old is your site? PR and web position (ranking) is somewhat different in terms of what your saying... Some have high PR but their position is nowhere to be seen in Google rankings... Pr is about quality links in your site...

And in ranking there are lots of factor to consider to achieve it... Just build links.. and update your contents.. and Google will notice you again...

[wige]

Page Rank is a loose indication of how much trust Google has in your page, based on the quality of your incoming links and possibly on page factors, and is recalculated a few times each year (basing this on comments listed on Matt Cutts blog referring to rolling out a semi-annual Page Rank Update) but this abstract number does not directly relate to how well your page will do for a specific search. Other factors such as link text, keyword density, etc. determine the final rank, although page rank can influence this somewhat. (one factor of many)

As far as changes in position, every time a search engine tweaks the algorithm, the order of the results may change slightly. You may even see your place in the SERPs fluctuate from day to day during a major update.