Newbie Question

[bigbankhank]

Hi,

I have a site that's not visited by the google-bot anymore.

http://www.handywelten.de

I'm pretty sure the site isn't banned.

In Google Webmaster-Tools the summary shows me the date googlebot has last visted my site

Googlebot last successfully accessed your home page on May 3, 2006.

I don't know what to do now. Can You help?

[incrediblehelp]

Well does this website have links to it from other websites that are ranking well in Google? I doubt it. Build you IBLs up and Googlebot will return with a vengeance.

[Duncan Pollock]

I think there's also the question of how often -- if at all -- you change the site. Seemingly, the bots have a way of knowing it's time they revisited a site because it is no longer what it was. In support of this idea/guess is a fairly common recommendation to webmasters to add-to / subtract-from / alter-in-one-way-or-another the content of a site. There isn't any particular frequency required, just a basic approach that a site needs to be "refreshed" at more or less regular intervals.
As incrediblehelp suggests, this can be done simply by adding links when and as you can (although, needless to say, they should be relevant ones).
Apart from everything else, though, maybe the fact that your site isn't in English could be a factor that determines how often the bots recheck it.

Duncan

[bigbankhank]

Thanks for your answers. But there are Links pointing to my site that are ranking well in google.
The web directories listed in the sitemap contain links to it.

Also the content was updated.

The content wasn't updatet a long time, so I think this could be the reason why the bot stopped coming around.
But now it was updatet a month ago and also a lot of IBL's were set and still the bot isn't visiting it.

Thanks again for the help!

[bigbankhank]

This problem ist still active. Is there nobody with an idea?

best regards

[incrediblehelp]

Originally Posted by bigbankhank

This problem ist still active. Is there nobody with an idea?

huh? Did you read above?

[Khurram007]

Are you having this problem with only Google Search or other Search Engines as well?

Try to check Yahoo and msn search as well and post the results here.

Khurram.

[Webnauts]

Du hast kaum Text Inhalt. You have nearly no textual content.

Greetings to Dortmund from Bielefeld.

[Khurram007]

Very True!!!

Why should a search engine come to a site that is using not Meta keywords, descriptions and also title are just casual. Search engines can't read images, and it seems that you have almost everything as images or links. Almost no content.

You need to optimize your site seriously and add text content to your site. As someone says that "Content is the King".

HTH,

Khurram

[Webnauts]

Khurram from my experience in Germany, they mostly rely in the pre-war techniques as using meta tags for SEPS.
This should not be considered as an offence though. It is just what I am confronted with all the time.

[bigbankhank]

Why should a search engine come to a site that is using not Meta keywords, descriptions and also title are just casual.

Because it's what a search engine does.

I know there's very little content on the site and I have to add a lot but
in spite of the little content the google-bot should visit my site and give
it a new rank or at least come and have a look :)
There are other sites that are structured like this (graphical) and still the bot is showing.

You can tell the site is indexed by entering handywelten into google.
It's also indexed in other engines. I can't tell about the update of the
ranking and the frequency of visits from their bots.

So I don't belive the little content is responsible (Please convince me if I'm wrong).

I think there's also the question of how often -- if at all -- you change the site. Seemingly, the bots have a way of knowing it's time they revisited a site because it is no longer what it was.

I can rather imagine the problem could be caused by the long respite of the site.

Thanks again and beste Grüsse nach Bielefeld

[privatefleet]

It appears that you have no pagerank - there is a definate correlation between PR and frequency of visits by googlebot.

Obviously increasing your PR is a massive subject and covered elsewhere on this forum.

Also maybe submitting a sitemap may help. From what I understand sitemaps are there to be a little more explicit with Google about what content you have and how often you need to be visited. (saying that though I've just added a sitemap and it's not made that much diff...)

[Khurram007]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Khurram from my experience in Germany, they mostly rely in the pre-war techniques as using meta tags for SEPS.
This should not be considered as an offence though. It is just what I am confronted with all the time.

I am not very good in picking English, but acc. to what seems to me, you regards usage of Meta Tags as old technique.

I am still a novice in SEO but I do want and do study several articles on daily basis to get the feel of SEO techniques. What techniques and tips would you suggest for a site like this to get a better PR plus a good SEP?

Thanks,

Khurram.

[bigbankhank]

It appears that you have no pagerank - there is a definate correlation between PR and frequency of visits by googlebot.

I know this, that's why I want the bot to come around.

Obviously increasing your PR is a massive subject and covered elsewhere on this forum.

I know this too. But that's not the information I need.
I need to know why the googlebot won't visit my site and how to influence this circumstance.

And again: I don't wonder why my content isn't found.
I just want this bot to visist my site.

[Khurram007]

My suggestions, if you want to take suggestions, are:

1. Add fresh content to your site.

2. Add Proper optimized Page titles and use Meta Keywords and Description to your page. Add meta robots tag to your page. Its better to use it. It takes no time and might be advantageous.

3. Its better to add some script to recognize their visit and store the count somewhere, either in db or in a text file.

4. Add new IBLs to your site. Add & re-add your site in Directories and also fresh IBL links coming from new sites with good PR.

Now wait, wait and wait. You should get googlebot to visit within 1 week and most probably within 3 days. Keep the progress and results be posted here.

HTH,

Khurram.[/list]

[bigbankhank]

Successss. The bot has shown. I don't know why, after 2 Months of waiting but it was there.

The PR is still 0 though nearly 600 IBL's were set.

Thanks for all the help and your suggestions. I'll now take the time to add some more relevant content to the site.

[Khurram007]

lol...

May be one of the forum readers was a bot and practically responded to your problem...

Khurram.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by bigbankhank

The PR is still 0 though nearly 600 IBL's were set.

I hope IBL's are relevant to your site content.

[bigbankhank]

I think so, they were entered in the adequate categories in web directories.

Regards

[Webnauts]

When did you setup your site?
When have you submitted your site to web directories and when have your site been included?
When have your site been indexed?

I can see that your first attempt going on line was the 20th of February this year.

If you answer all this maybe I can tell more.

[bigbankhank]

Ok lets see if I get it together.

I can see that your first attempt going on line was the 20th of February this year.

That's right, I experimented a little at this time. I also submitted it to
the searchengines and directories that were known to me. I got a PageRank of 1.

Somehow I lost interest in the site and so it slept a little since end of July.
At this time I already was kicked out of all the directories because the design
of the site was horrible and the content nearly 0.
(You may say: It doesn't look well today, but it was worse)

End of July since End of September I worked on the site and made it look like it looks today.

Then I added it to round about 400 directories. The most of them needed 1 week
to add the link.

When have your site been indexed?

I don't realy know.

Within the Google-Webmastertools it says that the PageRank isn't asigned
to all pages yet which gives me hope.

Thanks for all further information.