Will Google PR show if a site is banned?

banner34 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 05:43 PM

Hi,
My site www.sourcestravel.comwas heavily indexed by google and has PR3. But about a week back, all pages were de-indexed? Is my site banned? But still Google PR3 is shown in toolbar. Please give your opinion. Also, wht I should do to reindex?

Thanks

weslinda · #2 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 06:41 PM

Well, what exactly is your site for? I went to the homepage and every link I clicked on, nothing happened, it took up to 1 minute for any new page to load, if it did load.

Public PR is not updated when a site is delisted. It could take a month or two before the PR is updated.

Also, since your site appears to be pulling results from another engine, other than your own would also get your site discounted and banned.

Finally, I would be concerned with your ad account as well, as this might eventually get shut down by Google for the practices that have gotten you banned in the first place.

Hiops · #3 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 07:23 PM

I did not find any broken links on the site, and nothing is banned, maybe some pages deindexed, but this is a regular thing for google.

amar · #4 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 03:29 PM

Google page rank: Most of the data centers are showing page rank of 3 for your site.

Google ban check:The domain name has a PageRank value of 3. The domain name DOES NOT appear to be banned.

Kindly give us some more time for studying the site.

Thanks,
Amar

weslinda · #5 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 03:32 PM

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...cetravel%2ecom

Come on guys, lets focus. There are no listings of the site in Google at all. Not sure where everyone is coming up with the "not banned" and "listed" ideas.

Webnauts · #6 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 11:06 PM

Ask Google yourself: https://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/sitestatus

I checked, and Google said, that if you were indexed, you are banned now. :)

amar · #7 (**permalink**) 11-02-2006, 04:09 AM

Quote:

weslinda
PostPosted: November 01 2006 Post subject: Focus all...
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...cetravel%2ecom

Come on guys, lets focus. There are no listings of the site in Google at all. Not sure where everyone is coming up with the "not banned" and "listed" ideas.

You have searched for a wrong url. The posted url is http://www.sourcestravel.com, which is having a page rank of 3.

The question is whether Google display PR for banned site or not? None of the pages are in Google index.

Come up with nice examples if you have any.

Thanks,
Amar

weslinda · #8 (**permalink**) 11-02-2006, 09:08 AM

Amar, sorry for the incorrect link post, however, the results are the same.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...estravel%2ecom

I gave my recomendations above on why the site was delisted, and what further recourse the user has.

Webnauts · #9 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amar

Google page rank: Most of the data centers are showing page rank of 3 for your site.

Google ban check:The domain name has a PageRank value of 3. The domain name DOES NOT appear to be banned.

Kindly give us some more time for studying the site.

Thanks,
Amar

Amar your question is just too simple. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Google does not export to the green toolbar their internal PageRank values every day. That happens once every 3-4 months.
Next update estimated to be on January the 28th, 2007.
More about: http://www.seocompany.ca/pagerank/pa...date-list.html

If the site is still not re-indexed in Google by the next PageRank Toolbar Export, the toolbar for that site will be just grey.

Any further questions?

jackson992 · #10 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 05:05 AM

This isn't necessarily true anymore. I have a site that got banned that has had PR and still has pR even with the latest update. http://automotiveparts-accessoreies.com

I tried sending Google an email about it but never received a reply back.

Webnauts · #11 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackson992

This isn't necessarily true anymore. I have a site that got banned that has had PR and still has pR even with the latest update. http://automotiveparts-accessoreies.com

I tried sending Google an email about it but never received a reply back.

Jack, can you tell us here what are you talking about?

First the url above does not exist. If we are talking about this one http://automotiveparts-accessories.com/ it is not banned!

Check it out yourself: https://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/sitestatus

jackson992 · #12 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 08:11 PM

Hi Webnauts:

Yes sorry I had a typo in there. Yes that is the site I meant. Notice if you do a site command for the site that nothing comes up. That is why I said it was banned.

Peter (IMC) · #13 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Come on guys, lets focus.

Good point! :)

And when you have indexing problems 99 out of 100 times it has to do with popularity (unless your site is really uncrawlable)

search for just the domain name in Google (www.sourcestravel.com) and notice that:

* Only 50 results are found.
* Mostly from forums and link directories

Google doesn't believe that the site is worth indexing because it can't find any (or enough) links to it.

I´m sure many can "proof" there are more links, but the only way to really find out is to just start promoting the site and see what will happen.

Peter (IMC) · #14 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 11:12 PM

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Yes sorry I had a typo in there. Yes that is the site I meant. Notice if you do a site command for the site that nothing comes up. That is why I said it was banned.

Same problem here: search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fautomotiveparts-accessories.com%2F&first=41&FORM=PERE

That´s many backlinks, but they all come from what looks like automated link building systems.... that just doesn't work. (obviously)

jackson992 · #15 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 04:49 AM

Hi Peter:

I posted this over at Search Engine Watch but since it is so relevant I will repeat it here. How do you measure links besides quantity. Or should I say how do we know if a link is a good link or not.

In the above example I am sure many of those sites I did not even know linked to me lol. However I usually don't add anyone until they email me first and it's all done one at a time with preferably somehow related categories.

Peter (IMC) · #16 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 01:27 PM

The main problem is often not the links that you do have, but the links that you don't have. Pretty much all "automated" links can be discounted. How much is left when you take all those out?

Perhaps the best definition of a quality link is a "human" link. One that was placed by a real person and not by an automated system.

weslinda · #17 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 01:32 PM

I would like to offer my opinion of the "best quality link" that a site can get. I believe there are some key variables that make a link most valuable, and of "best quality".

1. Link is not paid.
2. Link is a part of general content, not on a links page.
3. Link is from a reputable site.
4. Link is from a site in your market / business area.
5. Link is from a site that the search engines admonish as an authority.

I think that would be my definition of the "perfect link" and I would think that's something we should all be shooting for.

Webnauts · #18 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 01:34 PM

Great post Wes!

banner34 · #19 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 09:13 PM

Here is an interesting find.
When I search google with
site:www.sourcestravel.com , I find there are no results.

But If I search with site: www.sourcestravel.com ( notice the space between site: and www) then I get 51 results.

Then I searched all my other sites , like both above and found varying results.
Why is that so?

Peter (IMC) · #20 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banner34

Here is an interesting find.
When I search google with
site:www.sourcestravel.com , I find there are no results.

But If I search with site: www.sourcestravel.com ( notice the space between site: and www) then I get 51 results.

Then I searched all my other sites , like both above and found varying results.
Why is that so?

You´re breaking the site: command with that space. It´s as if you´re searching for just www.sourcestravel.com and all you get is pages that mention the url.

**incrediblehelp** · #21 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 10:27 PM

Banner have you signed the site up in Google Webmaster Tools? You realize that Peter and weslinda are right. You need to get some higher quality back links and start p[publishing usual content on your website. A MFA (Made For AdSense)website like this one is garbage and should be banned or at least not rank.