Incredible PR5 Site - Must See!!1!eleven!1!

[DrTandem1]

Originally Posted by philosophian

PR0 here in San Diego at 3am PST 10/19/06

I'm in San Diego (10:43 PST) and I still see it as a PR5. Also, going the reverse, videogoogle.com, is an empty HTML page owned by Google with a PR0.

Again, the original site in question, googlevideo.com, appears to have already been engaged by Google. As I mentioned previously, using archive.org you can see that this site had more "content" in 2005. Also, the domain was first registered in 2004 and renewed in 2006 for another year. So, it wasn't around before Google, if you actually think that matters.

Looking at it from a legal perspective, if Google has indeed engaged the owners of this site and they want to fight Google, I think the legal posturing that resulted was:

~The site changed its content to be non-commercial

~Google left the PR artificially at PR5, so that it could not be blamed or liable for any loss of "business" or damage, in the remote chance that it would lose the debate

There is no legitimate reason for the site in question to use the term "google" in their domain name. It is clearly an attempt to confuse visitors.

[aaron2005]

Originally Posted by Andilinks

Yes, the best way to get valuable links is to cultivate real friendships with people who have valuable sites.

It's that "real friendships" part that shakes out the phonies. Real friendships take real work and the passage of time. You're very lucky to have one real friend in this world.

How's that for blunt. :)

Well said, want to be my friend? Let me study your network, i'll show you mine if you show me yours. :)

As for the Googlevideo thing, they are dealing with the same thing we deal with when trying to register a cool sounding domain. Some freakin' splogger already owns it almost every time! Think of all the good domains these people (some of you call heroes) have ruined?

Note: I noticed the emotional heading in my email for this post, nice linkbait Mike. ;)

[kimber23]

i also see a pr 0 on this page.

[DrTandem1]

Originally Posted by kimber23

i also see a pr 0 on this page.

What else do you see on the page itself?

[kimber23]

Originally Posted by DrTandem1

What else do you see on the page itself?

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Check out these great video sites!

* real.com
* blockbuster.com
* divx.com
* vh1.com
* hollywoodvideo.com
* videohelp.com
* videomaker.com
* videolibrarian.com

NOTICE: googlevideo.com is non-commercial, nonprofit, nor is it associated with, endorsed by, in any way the property of, or responsibility of "Google™"

[aaron2005]

Originally Posted by DrTandem1

What else do you see on the page itself?

I see that in 2004 it was the hardcore movie forum: http://web.archive.org/web/200409222...ovieforum.net/

How do you do a nofollow in BBCode?

toolbarqueries.google.com shows 0 but all other datacenters PR5...

[meinking22]

Site shows as a PR5 for me...

I think Andilinks and Earman have already hit the nail on the head. PR is a hype value, and while usually good as a general indicator of a site's relevancy, should not be the be all and end all of any SEO efforts. After all, it's all about generating traffic and keyword ranking for free traffic. Anyone that chases PR, for the sake of PR, is bound to end up with a mediocre business.

Steve

Orange County Condos and Homes

[Andilinks]

Originally Posted by aaron2005

Let me study your network...

Try my username dot com. But the single most important thing about that site's traffic is having been in the Google index since March, 2002. I have other sites with similar content and links which still await exit from the non-existent sandbox.

[EArmand]

I have other sites with similar content and links which still await exit from the non-existent sandbox.

That's Fun-E! I guess that non existent sand box is kinda like the Area 51 of the online world...

...The U.S. government does not explicitly acknowledge the existence of the Groom Lake facility, nor does it deny it...

BTW - Great job on your site, that is a TRUE PR6.

[dann]

Originally Posted by aaron2005

Yes indeed, I believe PR value means nothing (other than for quicker crawls) so don't waste your time even thinking about it.

As for the strength of my network just one link (if approved and not spam) will send a new site on it's way simply because I gaurd my neighborhood like a pitbull. If your site is spam and I link to you, you hurt me and we can not have that. ;)

It really is all about who your friends are people, sorry to be so blunt. I am also accepting submissions now in my two directories.

Your directories do not seem to be passing PR. That's ok but $99 hmm. You also state:
"The Environmental Directory is now sorting through current submissions and has removed 99% of them because they are clearly spam. The websites that were accepted and included in the directory are under a probationary period and will be monitored closely. We do this to ensure quality."
Was this after you became an expensive backlink after being a recip directory.
I noticed you do not have many outbound links either and your subcats have zero PR.
Now why would anyone pay to be in your directory unless the owner has a Plasma Cutting business (maybe you?).
Cut your price by $98.50 I submit all of my websites.
Cool?
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[DrTandem1]

Originally Posted by EArmand

That's Fun-E! I guess that non existent sand box is kinda like the Area 51 of the online world...

...The U.S. government does not explicitly acknowledge the existence of the Groom Lake facility, nor does it deny it...

Side note: The government acknowledges the existence of the base. They just deny calling it Area 51. Google denies almost everything, and that which it does not deny, such as its guidelines, it does not follow.

[Andilinks]

Originally Posted by Google Inc.

...92 percent jump in quarterly profit

Eat your heart out DrTandem1, they're doing something right.

[DrTandem1]

Originally Posted by Andilinks

Eat your heart out DrTandem1, they're doing something right.

I could double my quarterly profits too, if I over charged clients paying for advertising (AdWords) and then shorted the clients providing the space (AdSense). If the ads don't produce a good ROI, which they won't, look for another Google crash. I predicted the first two. Let's see how I do with the third.

I think if you look through the Google threads of the past couple of months, you will find many complaints of higher AdWords costs and lower AdSense revenue on average.

However, going back to the original topic, the domain, as someone corrected me, goes back to 2004, which doesn't change my point. The original content is gone, the domain was created long after Google existed and yet it still has a PR5 for most of us viewing it through the current data centers.

[Andilinks]

...look for another Google crash. I predicted the first two. Let's see how I do with the third.

Yes, the buying frenzy will form a bubble from time to time and insiders will take some money off the table. Calling those corrections "crashes" exposes your total lack of understanding of this market.

I would be wary of the IE7 effect but if AdWords earnings don't drop significantly on Nov. 1 I won't sell below 500, that may be a resistance point.

Yes, there will be corrections, don't embarrass yourself by calling them crashes.

[DrTandem1]

Originally Posted by Andilinks

Calling those corrections "crashes" exposes your total lack of understanding of this market.

I wouldn't call a loss in the billions as a "correction."

[Andilinks]

I wouldn't call a loss in the billions as a "correction."

Did you lose billions? So sorry to hear that Tandem, you need more discipline.

[Andilinks]

Originally Posted by EArmand

BTW - Great job on your site, that is a TRUE PR6.

Thank you sir. :)

[Clint1]

Sorry I don't have time to read all these pages, I read the first page and I see Webnauts posted something along these lines.

http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com...wm=Explore+URL

The site shows only 31 IBL's there, and 11 at the non-www. But look who's linking to it....WHY??? Why would ANY site want to link to that POS? Maybe they changed the site recently. ?

As far as why they have a high PR, I guess someone could check all of their IBL's at Y at that URL and run them through here http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/future-pagerank/ (BTW, it shows a 5 at all DC's there). From the looks of it, what they have linking to that site looks like some crap, but we all know how bogus PR is.

Anytime sites get "ranked" opens up scams and ranking fraud, makes the big monopolies get even bigger, and the small mom & pop places--the very backbone of America, getting even smaller and pushed out of business. The biggest mistake G ever made was this PR crap. It has resulted in nothing but the aforementioned. Millions of link farms that clog up the net in efforts to boost one's PR; serious damage to small business that should, and WILL result
in a massive class-action lawsuit (they're already several in the making because of this), and misleading surfers into believing something about a site that is NOT TRUE.

I've seen TOTALLY BLANK PAGES except for TWO LINKS, with NO LINKS POINTING TO THEM, with a PR of 9!! People erroneously think that the higher the PR the better the site. This is another reason how G and this PR crap is ruining enterprise/commerce on the internet, not to mention the economy; creating more monopolies and ruining small business, which as I said is the real economical backbone of America.

Joe surfer goes to site A and sees "PR 3" (or a low Alexa rank) and thinks "this site blows" and leaves. Then goes to the same genre site B (with higher prices) and sees "PR 9" or higher Alexa rank and thinks it's awesome, then buys from site B. This is repeated millions of times daily where site A (99% of us) gets screwed. Whomever created this "PR" (and Alexa rank) BS should be skinned. It's done nothing but ruin small business, create scams, link buying and selling, link farms, etc. etc. not to mention ruined lives, ruined businesses, stress out frustrated people, and probably suicides.

Nothing good has come out of it for the overwhelming majority of site owners. But since when G ever done GOOD?? They violate this so-called "code" of theirs to "do no evil" on a regular basis.

[littlegiant]

Hey effisk, thanks for that Yahoo Site Explorer link. I never knew about that. Very useful. Kinda blows Google's link: tool right out of the water, don't it?

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Er.... Uhhhh... I mean...

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All hail Google, the Supreme Ruler of the Internet!

(*ahem*)... That's what I really meant to say..

:o)

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by littlegiant

Hey effisk, thanks for that Yahoo Site Explorer link. I never knew about that. Very useful. Kinda blows Google's link: tool right out of the water, don't it?

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Er.... Uhhhh... I mean...

All hail Google, the Supreme Ruler of the Internet!

(*ahem*)... That's what I really meant to say..

:o)

"Effisk"? BTW, Y is now using that idiotic "Site Explorer BETA" which sucks. It is so screwed up is shows one of my sites as a SUB-domain! It's also showing about 200 pages LESS than their regular site: command, and a few hundred LESS IBL's! So, they too are headed in the wrong direction just like G. I keep telling them daily about this, even posted it twice in their SEB forum, not a single reply. They don't care.