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Old 09-21-2006, 05:26 PM
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Default Does Google index secure pages (https)

I am about to launch my new website for consumer electronics products.

The site is www.ElectonicConsumerGoods.com which 301 redirects to www.secure.ElectronicConsumerGoods.com

and all the product pages are secure and begin with https.

The secure product pages will have unique page title tags based upon the item description and model number.

So my question is which url to submit to Google,
www.ElectonicConsumerGoods.com

or

www.secure.ElectronicConsumerGoods.com which is where all the https product pages are.

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Old 09-22-2006, 12:06 PM
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No It won't index https:// none of my sites has been indexed so far in Google I don't know about other search engines does this.


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Old 09-22-2006, 02:06 PM
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No It won't index https:// none of my sites has been indexed so far in Google I don't know about other search engines does this.


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Thanks for the reply.

Are you basing your statement upon the fact that since your site hasn't been indexed, that no https pages get indexed, or do you know for sure based upon some other criteria.
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Google does in fact index https pages, this can be verified by doing a search for inurl:https and most of the results you find will be to secured pages. I am not sure about other search engines, and I have no idea how this might affect crawl frequency or ranking. Based on rumors I have heard, it may have a tiny benefit because using encryption requires a digital signature, which implies trust.
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Google does in fact index https pages, this can be verified by doing a search for inurl:https and most of the results you find will be to secured pages. I am not sure about other search engines, and I have no idea how this might affect crawl frequency or ranking. Based on rumors I have heard, it may have a tiny benefit because using encryption requires a digital signature, which implies trust.
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I webmastered an ecommerce site prior that used https for all pages, and upon moving the urls to http the amount of indexed pages increased drastically.

Additionally, https page calls are slower than http so there is a performance benefit from not using https.

Lastly, there is really no reason to use https for product pages, https does not need to be triggered until entering customer data.
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I webmastered an ecommerce site prior that used https for all pages, and upon moving the urls to http the amount of indexed pages increased drastically.

Additionally, https page calls are slower than http so there is a performance benefit from not using https.

Lastly, there is really no reason to use https for product pages, https does not need to be triggered until entering customer data.
Really good information. Thank you so much!

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Old 09-25-2006, 08:23 AM
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The prevailing practice is to hold your product pages non-SSL (http://). The trail from checkout to the "Thank You for the order" page you put on your SSL (https://) site. You should also make those pages "noin dex, nofollow" for the search engines (in the meta tags or in the robots.txt).

The main reason is the cost (performance) for your webserver and the browser to encrypt the pages.

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Yes Google does index https and sometimes gets confused when you don't block them from this part of your website. You don't really need these pages indexed so I would block them.

I would follow Conficio advise.
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I already do what Conficio says too.
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