Google Update, PageRank, Backlink Information

[samflutch]

For those of you not yet aware, Google is currently updating the Page Rank they are displaying in their toolbar. Each update causes a stir among the SEO community and webmasters trying to get their websites to the top of the Google Rankings.Page Rank is essentially a score out of ten as to the “value” of your site in comparison to other websites on the Internet. It is based on two primary factors; the number of links you have pointing to your website and the value of the links pointing to your website.
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[emeraldisle]

PR is now less important than it used to be. It seems that Google has gone back to the old-fashioned keyword density. BUT if you are comparing apples to apples - two sites with equal links and equal density, the higher PR pages WILL go to the top! Having said that, you can push your sites above those of higher PR with great optimization.

Soo, in other words, PR still has importance, but is not of the highest concern anymore.

[false]

PR should be secondary to keyword optimization. I do not know why we still discuss this topic in threads with thousands of replies in it. There are people out there who still go after PR blindly without offering any quality content.

[sheena]

Originally Posted by lqyjames

I thank that PR is less and less important, for the purpose of design site is for target traffic, is and not the PR, recently top ranking in google is not base on your high PR, but for rich and reasonable contant and continually updating. If you have view carefully 10 sites on google's first page, you could find that there are very low PR site in it.
So we should note the purpose of doing site, not only for high PR.
Do you think so?

James

I agree with you that PageRank is less important than the targeted traffic and good ranking. Top ranking is based on the number of related back links and rich content

[jabo]

A lot of tools has been suggesting that I am loosing back links, but it has not really affect my SERP. what is a nice tool to measure them up?

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by sheena

I agree with you that PageRank is less important than the targeted traffic and good ranking. Top ranking is based on the number of related back links and rich content

Since you tell here that PageRank is less important, why do you recommend getting backlinks. Am I missing something here? So do you mean that backlinks with nofollow would be good for you?

[jacksen]

Google begun updating its pagerank information some time early this week. They are also updating sites backlink information. So, check out your web properties to see if you’ve been given a green bar boost. This is the first PR cycle that The Iteration Station has been around for and we debued at a PR 3- not too bad. Without getting into too much detail, PageRank is essentially a score out of ten as to the "value" of your site in comparison to other websites on the Internet. It is based on two primary factors; the number of links you have pointing to your website and the value of the links pointing to your website.
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[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by victor2008

Hello

What? Hello?

[SEOTour]

Last month my website had PR 3 and now its 0

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by SEOTour

Last month my website had PR 3 and now its 0

I think that happens when SEO is on Tour.

[google consultant]

I have noticed that pagerank is being updated far more than it used too. In fact it happens probably every two months-ish from what i can see. post of it is just visual and does not really indicate Googles real opinion of your pages on your site.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by sija27

hope of my sites was increasing PR ，seo tools: positions-check bei über 300 Datencenter für Deutschland Österreich und die Schweiz I will test it

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[Web Design Company]

I read here that some people have different PR for different pages. I too have the same issue. My home page has PR-3 but the deeper pages have PR that varies from 1 to unranked. Can someone suggest ways to have a uniform PR throughout all pages of my site?

[mgk]

Seems like PR has stablized a bit now. Guess Google has finished shaking the rug. But the next shake-up, I heard was video's and images. Just have to wait and see. Calm before the storm.

[Magnifico]

lately ive been noticing a lot of newly indexed pages and such disappear a few days after being indexed, then reappear a few days to a week later. i was told that's the google dance... if google doesnt dance anymore then what is it?

[sarpras]

Google PR not important...

If you have good content, you get large traffic...

[thorness]

My main sports site was getting virtually no inbound traffic when it was rated PR3 a few months back. Now that it has really picked up (probably about tenfold) it has been knocked back to PR2.

My private blog is far more simplistic and receives nothing like the same traffic, but has just moved in the opposite direction.

For the benefit of a stupid beginner to this game, what the hell is all this about?

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by thorness

For the benefit of a stupid beginner to this game, what the hell is all this about?

Canonicalization issue?

Your homepage is duplicated.

You have:

1. SPORTS BETTING CENTRE

2. SPORTS BETTING CENTRE

Don't ask any further questions in this thread. If you have more questions, please start a new thread.

Good luck.

[educational]

Originally Posted by sarpras

Google PR not important...

I agree with you as google traffic didn't convert as it was in past

If you have good content, you get large traffic...

I'm more interested if they converted for sale or lead. Else huge traffic is useless as it unnecessarily slow down the site (some time problematic for server too.) IMO

[skazka]

Hello to All,

I am not a SEO, but I love to be on this forum and read everybody's comments to learn what's new and how it can be applied to our site.

We just re-built our site and added a blog section to it as well, where we provide some information about the Russian products, and so on.

What surprises me, that some sites, who sell the Russian products as we do, above us on Google's generic search. However, there is no content, nor there is some kind of design. I am referring to nestingdolls net.

What do we do wrong? Could anyone point out our mistakes, please?

Greatly appreciate your advise.

[educational]

Originally Posted by skazka

We just re-built our site and added a blog section to it as well, where we provide some information about the Russian products, and so on.

New design, newly added etc. took quite some time before indexing by Search Engines.

What surprises me, that some sites, who sell the Russian products as we do, above us on Google's generic search. However, there is no content, nor there is some kind of design. I am referring to nestingdolls net.

What do we do wrong? Could anyone point out our mistakes, please?

Greatly appreciate your advise.

Search Engines likes simplicity & uniqueness, the site you think is not well designed may be have some uniqueness from search engine point of view (clutter/code free). You did nothing wrong (as per your description), if G loves to visit your site frequently it will crawl it very soon but the one with whom you compares may be there from Long Time, also consider backlink, title, description, keywords, page age, link from other pages, smooth navigation etc. etc. etc. & so on.

Let some time to pass & may be your page/site/blog within SE ranking.

HTH

[Allenz]

Thank you, I will look into having a map on the page itself, maybe something rather small...

As to PR, I have heard from others that their site's ranking "danced" around too. We shall see... Glad yours is back up .

[deyounggerry]

Webnauts thanks for the tool! I came to this forum looking for a way to find out real time PR. It will come in handy for link trading. I think I will check out all your posts.

[Webnauts]

Originally Posted by deyounggerry

I think I will check out all your posts.

I am glad that I could help. But about you thinking to check out all my posts, that can take some time. I have including this one, 7,688 posts.

[Webnauts]

I heared that Google is going to update its green bar today. If someone notice something, please drop a note here please.

Thanks.

[Webnauts]

For the google PR toolbar fans: Updating since hours.

Mine looks great.

[OpticBurst.com]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

I heared that Google is going to update its green bar today. If someone notice something, please drop a note here please.

Thanks.

Ive seen PR change yesterday. Ive notice some pages go up and one go down.

[ajay0547]

This may be late, But I think Google just updated its PR rating.. Probably the next update is August.

[deyounggerry]

Yes, a little late. They updated in April.

[bobpeter]

thanks for the information, I saw similar information on mattcutts blog..

[Mijas Real Estate]

Hi everyone,

Any ideas why google now ranks an internal page on page 1 rather than our home page of www.mijasrealestate.com

for example one of the keywords is "villas for sale in Mijas"

Up until a few weeks ago the home page was there on page 1 now its just an internal page ?! has google changed its way of doing things ?? or maybe they have banned our home page for some reason ??

I look forward to any help with this.

Thanks in advance

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by Mijas Real Estate

Hi everyone,

Any ideas why google now ranks an internal page on page 1 rather than our home page of www.mijasrealestate.com

for example one of the keywords is "villas for sale in Mijas"

Up until a few weeks ago the home page was there on page 1 now its just an internal page ?! has google changed its way of doing things ?? or maybe they have banned our home page for some reason ??

I look forward to any help with this.

Thanks in advance

Unlike myself, your homepage has not been banned. At least at google.com it has not been. Your homepage is still in the index. Your mijasrealestate.com/contact.htm page is what shows up for that search phrase in quotes. Without quotes I don't see any page from your site. If you want your homepage to show for that search phrase, you of course need to have that phrase "villas for sale in Mijas" on the homepage or in the title tag.

Be thankful your homepage is still there at all. They could have screwed you as they did me with BOTH of my main websites. As of a few days ago, my homepages are back in the index, but I'm still ruined because of hundreds of pages deleted and so few results from searches.

Either they have "changed the way they are doing things", as in yet another collective "search quality team" (ha) brain hemorrhage, or competitors did something criminal to me.

[nickoran]

Originally Posted by Clint1

Unlike myself, your homepage has not been banned. At least at google.com it has not been. Your homepage is still in the index. Your mijasrealestate.com/contact.htm page is what shows up for that search phrase in quotes. Without quotes I don't see any page from your site. If you want your homepage to show for that search phrase, you of course need to have that phrase "villas for sale in Mijas" on the homepage or in the title tag.

Be thankful your homepage is still there at all. They could have screwed you as they did me with BOTH of my main websites. As of a few days ago, my homepages are back in the index, but I'm still ruined because of hundreds of pages deleted and so few results from searches.

Either they have "changed the way they are doing things", as in yet another collective "search quality team" (ha) brain hemorrhage, or competitors did something criminal to me.

Which sites are you talking about Clint? any idea why your sites suffered? was it google or competitors?

[ctabuk]

Originally Posted by Mijas Real Estate

Hi everyone,

Any ideas why google now ranks an internal page on page 1 rather than our home page of www.mijasrealestate.com

for example one of the keywords is "villas for sale in Mijas"

Up until a few weeks ago the home page was there on page 1 now its just an internal page ?! has google changed its way of doing things ?? or maybe they have banned our home page for some reason ??

I look forward to any help with this.

Thanks in advance

You have far too many links on the opening page - way too many.

[chairman]

I am new here and I have been going through the various post. I think I have found the suitable forum because the information I am getting her is great

[chairman]

Can you please let me know up to how many links you have to have on a page. I understand google wants pages to keep it under 100 links. Are you going to be penalized when you go beyond it? I am with the view that, if you create a new page and you have a link to that page on your front page, it gets indexed quickly. I stand to be corrected.

[chairman]

Is there somewhere in this great forum that you can humbly ask for a page review?

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by nickoran

Which sites are you talking about Clint? any idea why your sites suffered? was it google or competitors?

No I have absolutely no idea, nor do I ever have any idea. Other than like I said, one of two things; yet another G screwup due to their Gbot or algo's which happens on a regular basis, or a competitor. I didn't see anything recent around here about any G updates, so this time it may be a competitor which would still be G's fault for allowing them to do it.

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by chairman

Can you please let me know up to how many links you have to have on a page. I understand google wants pages to keep it under 100 links. Are you going to be penalized when you go beyond it? I am with the view that, if you create a new page and you have a link to that page on your front page, it gets indexed quickly. I stand to be corrected.

The 100 links statement is old and my not be applicable any longer from a technical, spidering, or rule/guideline standpoint. But it's not usually aesthetically pleasing or user-friendly for users if it's a lot. And because of G's idiotic PR, the more the links the lesser their "value".

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by chairman

Is there somewhere in this great forum that you can humbly ask for a page review?

Submit Your Site For Review - WebProWorld

[imrankhalid]

Originally Posted by Webnauts

Since you tell here that PageRank is less important, why do you recommend getting backlinks. Am I missing something here? So do you mean that backlinks with nofollow would be good for you?

For me yes , because i just don't care about google , i still believe lots of people are still like to use yahoo and MSN , because on my blog i am having lot of traffic from them , but they are just coming from USA , And UK , And i am happy with that because i always like to target Just USA , European peoples ... and they are good for my business ... And also i believe that its also good for Google too , because i think if i get all back links just from dofollow sites , then google maybe think i am A Spammer ,,, so i always like to keep balance in dofollow and nodofollow links ... its just a my thoughts by the way correct me if i'm wrong some where

[Clint1]

Originally Posted by sarpras

Google PR not important...

If you have good content, you get large traffic...

Not if you're not in G. And if you have no PR, you're not likely to be ranked in G. So unfortunately, it is very important.....and it should just die since it's the most flawed thing in the history of the internet.

[Clint1]

What happened to this post??

let's just wait for the next PR update and see what happens. (I just mine from PR0-2 in 3 weeks)

[seobackrub]

Hi Guys,

Been searching for a similar "case" on keyword rankings suddenly disappearing for the past two weeks and I must say, my experience might be different from the ones you had with regard to the Google PR update.

The first two weeks of June 2009, I've noticed drastic and sudden drop in the keywords I normally/steadily rank high for a year or so. Some keywords that rank at the top spot are now on the second/third page of Google SERPs or had been totally gone. Analyzed and tracked the keywords that got hit and noticed that most of these keywords and their corresponding URLs lost their Cache Data/Info and displays plain destination URL for a given keyword in Google SERPs. Simultaneously, I've also been tracking daily my site's Google Indexed Pages and they have been abnormal as compared to last years data that I had.

Is there a Google Update going on here aside from the PR update? Have I been penalized?

[gaurav061081]

can you please have a look at my website interviewhelper and advise me y it went down from pr3 to 2 even after lot of hard work and more than 5000 quality backlinks?

[TrafficProducer]

Interviewhelper Hardwork maybe knock you down in PR

Maybe, hey what do I know, I haven't even looked at your site, sorry.

Just maybe the answer just could be too much Hardwork = too many links too quicky.. Google doen't like this.

Google likes to see natural linking back, this is slowly, to very very slowly.

Google dislikes paid links, link farms, etc.. (no saying you do this)

[gaurav061081]

by link farm do you mean..lots of supporting sites created by me for the purpose of link exchange?

[TrafficProducer]

Originally Posted by gaurav061081

by link farm do you mean.. lots of supporting sites created by me for the purpose of link exchange?

Define link farm

created by me ; Google look at the server IP, etc to see if the links are just links from that same user.

Google mainly, (only), want genuine links from Real People who think a website is good enough to link to...

After all this is what Google Page Rank is about.

Read : A link farm is a group of separate, highly interlinked websites for the purposes of inflating link popularity (or PR). Engaging in a link farm is a violation of the Terms Of Service of most search engines and could be grounds for banning.
www.georgiaseo.net/georgia-search-engine-optimization-glossary-of-seo-terms.html

[gaurav061081]

Thanks for the reply..just one more question if I am not bugging you too much... I have a blog on blogspot with the same name and I was in top 5 results for many keywords like C++ interview questions, HR interview questions etc. for a quite long time...but now google has totally removed those pages from the search results...What according to you can be the reason for this?

[leatherjackets99]

now when google update PR? ANY ONE KNOW?