Adsense helps your site get indexed?

[augustin]

I've read earlier in this forum that AdSense Mediapartners bot or mediabot, is also indexing for Google's index. If so does this mean running adsense on your webpages helps your site get indexed?

This may be a stupid question but i just thought i'd ask. Thanks!

[ctabuk]

No question is silly, daft or whatever, in short NO it won't make a scrap of difference, well until someone say's differently.

[augustin]

Thanks! So my question stays. I'd like to use it as an argument FOR implementing google ads.

[ericgates]

augustin I beg to differ. I have visual proof of google indexing pages faster because of the presence of googld adsense.

Check around and visit the "big dogs" 'sister'/'cousin' pages in the internet marketing game and ask yourself this question.

Why is is that they have a tid-bit snippet of google adsense either at the bottom or top of their page?

Remember it's just a tid-bit. A snippet.

If someone was trying to make money off of their webpage via google adsense why is their traffic funnel/conversion tactics all pointing elsewhere (not to the google adsense)?

I value your opinion and insight...

[augustin]

Originally Posted by ericgates

augustin I beg to differ. I have visual proof of google indexing pages faster because of the presence of googld adsense.

is that a good or bad thing?

[damodamo]

Originally Posted by ctabuk

No question is silly, daft or whatever, in short NO it won't make a scrap of difference, well until someone say's differently.

i disagree with this also. i've had sites indexed much faster with google ads than without

[ctabuk]

Well I tend to stick by my first statement, it's a bit like the question, Shall I submit my site to the SE's and of course it's no, now if you are saying that it is a brand new site that has never been in a forum or linked and you go straight for adsense or PPC then Yes, it will get indexed, but if you are saying, will adsense get me higher natural search? Then the answer is NO.

[augustin]

Originally Posted by damodamo

i disagree with this also. i've had sites indexed much faster with google ads than without

I think ctabuk was referring to my comment earlier about this question possibly being daft.

Anyway, glad to know someone else out there thinks displaying google ads helps insofar as getting your sites indexed by google.

[MtraX]

I also agree that Adsense will have no affect on the speed of indexing or ranking. These guys put Adsense in specific places, where they know they are most likely to lose a customer (bottom of page or 'end of funnel pages') in the pursuit of monetising the click away. It's hard to tell when this is the case though, but I've also tried it as a test for one of our SEO clients and it had no effect.

That's what Google sitemaps are for...

[SPC2]

Originally Posted by ctabuk

but if you are saying, will adsense get me higher natural search? Then the answer is NO.

Nobody mentioned rankings. That was a smart about face.

Google do use their AdSense googlebot for organic indexing these days, and it's quite new. The AdSense googlebot stores a cache of the pages it fetches. Then, if the regular googlebot wants to fetch a page that the AdSense one has already fetched, it gets it from the cache and not from the site.

For pages to be indexed more quickly because AdSense on them would need the URLs that the AdSense bot found to be passed to the regular system in some way, and, as far as I know, nobody from Google has said anything about that. Perhaps the regular bot looks at the cache content to see if there are any new URLs, but it isn't known that anything is passed.

The quick indexing of a site with AdSense doesn't tell us anything. Some sites are crawled quickly and others are not. The way to know is for several new sites with AdSense to be indexed without them having any IBLs - and no Google Toolbar installed when accessing the sites.

[incrediblehelp]

More here from Jensense

[SPC2]

Addition to my previous post...

Google's regular googlebot does get new URLs and pages from the AdSense cache, so a site's pages can be indexed without the regular googlebot ever visiting the site. It's new in Big Daddy, and it came up in discussions a while back, but I'd forgotten until Matt Cutts mentioned it again today.

[PROCOM]

I have no experience with getting faster indexing via adsense.

But Google logic (sense?) dictates that this is indeed the case.

Of course Google will cater, in one way or the other, to clients signing up to various programs.

I do think that signing up to Adwords would give you a faster indexing as well.

[PROCOM]

Just found this from Matt's blog. In the "Indexing Timeline" post. It might shed some light:

Considering the amount of code that changed, I consider Bigdaddy pretty successful in that I only saw two complaints. The first was one that I mentioned, where we didn’t index pages from sites with less trusted links, and we responded and started indexing more pages from those sites pretty quickly. The other complaint I heard was that pages crawled by AdSense started showing up in our web index. The fact that Bigdaddy provided a crawl caching proxy was a deliberate improvement in crawling and I was happy to describe it in PowerPoint-y detail on the blog and at WMW Boston.

www.mattcutts.com/blog/indexing-timeline/

[ctabuk]

Originally Posted by SPC2

Nobody mentioned rankings. That was a smart about face.

Google do use their AdSense googlebot for organic indexing these days, and it's quite new. The AdSense googlebot stores a cache of the pages it fetches. Then, if the regular googlebot wants to fetch a page that the AdSense one has already fetched, it gets it from the cache and not from the site.

For pages to be indexed more quickly because AdSense on them would need the URLs that the AdSense bot found to be passed to the regular system in some way, and, as far as I know, nobody from Google has said anything about that. Perhaps the regular bot looks at the cache content to see if there are any new URLs, but it isn't known that anything is passed.

The quick indexing of a site with AdSense doesn't tell us anything. Some sites are crawled quickly and others are not. The way to know is for several new sites with AdSense to be indexed without them having any IBLs - and no Google Toolbar installed when accessing the sites.

I said 'But if your saying' don't try flamers on here SPC2

[adbart]

Even if it does make a tiny difference, if you're trying to sell your own product there's never any point in showing ads - you're just distracting your users.

If you're an information-based website, then I expect you would be better off selling advertising space direct to comapanies relevant to your content. In my experience, only sites with massive volumes of monthly traffic generate any significant revenues from AdSense. If you're wondering whether including it will help your traffic, then you're clearly no where near this level yet.