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Old 02-27-2006, 07:59 PM
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Default DMOZ description changed. When will google show change?

Hello all! I recently managed to get my description changed in the DMOZ directory. No small feat! Google is still showing the old description and I was wondering if anybody had an idea when google might change this.

I wrote the description before I had even heard of the term SEO and included too many stop words. I am hoping this is the reason my site does not show in google serps for the term "comic books". I rank between #5 and #40 on MSN and between #27 and #40 on Yahoo! for this keyword. I find it odd that I can not seem to crack google.

Thanks in advance for any replys!!

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Old 02-27-2006, 09:02 PM
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the description will change once google updates the ODP data.

Look for a change here: http://www.google.com/Top/Arts/Comics/Retailers/?il=1

This should happen in less than a month's time.

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Google just updated the directory, so it could be months before the next one.

I doubt that the choice of words in your DMOZ description has anything to do with your Google ranking.

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BTW, if you are talking about the site in your signature, then the current description will not stay the way it is. Its not even close to being guideline complaint and will be edited when an editor comes across it.

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comicemporium,

You are in a competitive field. The first page GOOGLE winners have between around 500-5000 Links listed by GOOG.

You are most likely going to have to keep playing the game and build on your 20, before you can play on the first several pages against your competition for that phrase.

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BTW, if you are talking about the site in your signature, then the current description will not stay the way it is. Its not even close to being guideline complaint and will be edited when an editor comes across it.

Yes I am refering to the site in the signature. Why is it not compliant? It was placed there by a DMOZ editor correct? Any editing should have been taken care of when the description was changed. Forgive any ignorance on my part.
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You are in a competitive field. The first page GOOGLE winners have between around 500-5000 Links listed by GOOG.

You are most likely going to have to keep playing the game and build on your 20, before you can play on the first several pages against your competition for that phrase.

Absolutely correct. I have no dreams of making the top 10 anytime soon. It baffles me when I see all of the none related sites in the search results and my site is not listed in the top 1000.
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It was placed there by a DMOZ editor correct? Any editing should have been taken care of when the description was changed
The editor made a mistake. 'comic books' is repeated twice in the description and as those words are in the site title and category title, they are redundant in the description.

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cbp - does that actually hurt, or might it help? Google does that all the time, pulling descriptions from different sources, depending on the elements.

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I can see no way that a DMOZ description can help or hurt a ranking.

In the case here, the site is listed in this category:
Arts: Comics: Retailers
http://www.dmoz.org/Arts/Comics/Retailers/
(ie the catgeory title already has the words "comic" and "retailers"
The site title is:
Comic Emporium
(ie Comic in the title)
The sites description is:
Online comic book store selling back issue comic books from the 1940's through the present.
(ie 'Comic book' and 'comic books' is repeated in the description - thats keyword stuffing of the description and is against the guidleines, even though it was added by an editor).

IMHO, the description should say something like - "Online store selling back issues from the 1940's through the present" as 'comic' is already in site and category title.

BTW - there are a number of other descriptions in teh category that need cleaning up as well (I can't edit there, so can not do it)

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Who knows? - LOL

Never thought I'd do this, but, you may want to have a look at a commonly frequented Keyphrase Suggestion tool and adjust the Title, tags and Site verbiage accordingly..

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