Google Registrar and aged domains

[google junky]

Google now being a domain registar and understanding the possibilty that sites are ranked by age. I would assume that they use the "Record created" date within the whois information.

So with that said, what would their algo think about a domain that has expired and aquired a fresh "Record created" date. Is their any possible way to know when a domain was in fact first made a domain or will google work with the current data.

in example: I grabbed a domain that had expired. it was dated 1998 in whois. Now dated 2004 in whois.
Excuse my ignorance if this is more simple than what I seem to understand at the moment.

[roam_dx]

This is something I would be interested in as well, I recently re-registered some domains I had let go of in 2002.

They'd been booked for one year then, but I never renwed them. So the original creation date would be 2001, but now they show registed 2005.

Has anyone experieced how this would work out with the sandbox?

[brian.mark]

My experience shows that it is the date that Google discovers a site, not necessarily registration date, which matters. I think they look for information that doesn't make sense with their registar data, such as 300 domains linking together all owned by the same 4 people. That's easy to tell by looking at whois data.

I've had some sites that I've checked into that look sandboxed where the domain creation date is 2002, but no site existed until recently. Creation date doesn't seem to be the factor used for sandboxing.

Brian.

[DMC_34]

I used to believe site was a factor in the sandbox. I am not so sure anymore. In my expereince with two of my sites link age seems to be the major factor in the sandbox. Until the links have been up and stable for a certain period of time your site wont rank for competitive keywords. My site went from >1000 for many of keywords to top 15 exactly 9 months to the day Google first indexed it. But I was agressively pursuing links the first 3 months but manage a few.

DMC

[janeth]

I know a lot of people that buy domain names but do not change the register.

I also know a lot of people that think Google became a domian name register just so they could see when a name was bought and sold.

But I agree with DMC. I have worked with some old sites and got enough links to rank for keywords on MSN and Yahoo but Google took months and months to give credit for the links.

[roam_dx]

My experience shows that it is the date that Google discovers a site, not necessarily registration date, which matters.

I've had a slightly different experience in this matter, I had a domain thats been registered since 1999, so the date still shows 1999.

About a year ago a big client of mine just up and disappeared after I had completed 90% of his work, so I took the whole site (still incomplete) and uploaded it to this domain, to my greatest shock and joy, I was doing wonderfully in Google from day one(ok, not day one, maybe a month), with no other marketing, almost 100-200 referals a day.

Really thought I'd discovered a great ranking secret.

I then found another customer in the same market and sold the whole thing to him, but since the domin was mine and not at all relevant to the subject, we got him a new one and 301'd.

Guess what, better design, much better content, and a ton of more links he still gets just 20 visitors a month from Google, its been 6 months now.

But this domain im mentioning shows as registered in 1999, that's not the case with the domain I've re-registered. That one shows the registration date now as 2005 even though it was initially booked in 2001, and was live, in fact, I just checked, it's still show's in the Google cache!!

with two of my sites link age seems to be the major factor in the sandbox

I did not have a single link to that site, I think only the age of the domain worked for it, maybe that has changed since.

[janeth]

[quote="roam_dx"]

I did not have a single link to that site, I think only the age of the domain worked for it, maybe that has changed since.

I did vey little testing on this but from what you have done it would seem that the domian name age is the biggest factor.

I also 301'd some pages of one site to a sub-domain name the other day and lost everyone of the rankings.

I did'nt think that was suppose to happen.