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Old 11-23-2005, 06:42 AM
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Hi All !!

As we know that writing articles for websites have become more trendy now a days. But certain questions arise in my mind like:

Suppose we are submitting keyword rich articles to article directories or to other website which are providing article submission facilities. Next day those websites where in we had submitted articles are up in Google with our article link. That means in indirect way we are promoting those article websites, right. No doubt this is one of the important way for promoting websites but I would like to ask, isn't there any other way out which help to promote a website? I mean something new..

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Sure!
The UFO Submission is gaining popularity... I would give that a shot.
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The question that comes immediately to mind is: why do the articles have to be keyword-rich in the first place?

Articles (good ones, that is) are sources of information, opinions and ideas that very few others have thought of.

As far as promoting the article on other article sites, they're doing their own search engine promotion and you're piggybacking off of it, not the other way around. The only way it works in reverse is if you start linking to their stuff. That's why your article shows up within 24 hours on Google; they did their work so that you can take advantage of it.

You're nothing more than a content provider to them.

As far as new ideas, you're not likely to find any these days. If it's "new", it either dies on the vine or gets copied a million times over in six months.
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keyword rich is a bad word, I think it now gives a negative result. i also believe it is not about feeding engines garbage anymore.
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:33 PM
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Hi all !!

Thanks for quick response of my post. Yeah, I know keyword rich is a bad word. I have seen many people putting keyword stuffs in their articles. That is why I used this word "Keyword Rich" word in my post. But I agree with ADAM that "Articles (good ones, that is) are sources of information, opinions and ideas that very few others have thought of."
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I think Article submission is good. You can write articles and have your url in the article. This will bring you traffic. I have written a few articles and seen instant traffic when the article is published.
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Thanks Tim

Now I would like to ask, where should I put my website URL in the article? I mean below my article or any where in the article.

One more thing, Are blogs good for website presence or website ranking? How can I make my website blog popular?
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Does anybody have any recommendations for good places to submit articles that are not in any way spammy?
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:13 PM
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Default Submitting Articles and Press Releases

If you want to build recognition, buzz for your company or organization, appropriately placed articles are an excellent tool.

I am the public voice of my company and I write all the Press Releases as well as monthly syndicated articles in my fields.

Publishing these is very simple, but took some time and research on my part. Ask yourself one simple question, what industries to I write for? Then do the research and compile a list. I went so far as to call major publications that I was interested in and have created relationships with staff writers - I feed them content and in return they post my URL on their websites.

Now, my URL is linked to constantly from every major and most minor publications in my industry.

Excellent information, excellent exposure, and hey, I'll take the improve IBL count as well.
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I agree with mgillis to a certain extent, but I've found finding the major article sites offers a better alternative simply because of the syndication factor.

I've got articles in all sorts of places I've never submitted to.

I'm not home right now, but I've got a list there and I'll post it as soon as I'm back tomorrow.

Here are a couple of the better ones, though;

http://www.ideamarketers.com
http://www.ezine-articles.com
http://www.articlewarehouse.com (they loved my iKobo review).

bluweb: most article submission sites have an Author Bio blank specifically for your bio and backlink. Much like a newspaper, you can include info about yourself and your company at the bottom/end of the article. Don't bother putting it into the body.
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It depends on your topic. I have a list about 100 sites that accept general articles. The best way to find article sites is to find an author or authors in your field. Type their name in quotes into Google. There you can find where they post.

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Hi,

I have just completed some research on article submissions and there effectiveness in getting traffic.

My findings are split over three articles the first entitled "Google's Duplicate Internet
Content Filter in Action" and links from this lead to the other two reports.

You can find the reports listed under My Articles by Tony Simpson down the RHS of the page at http://www.webpageaddons.com/

You should find these reports will answer your question.

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Does anybody have any recommendations for good places to submit articles that are not in any way spammy?
Well, Article Dashboard has made their script freely available, so I know of about 140 sites where you can site articles. I would recommend downloading AD Submitter first though. You can get it at http://www.after5webdesign.com/software/adsubmitter.zip. It is a semi-auto submitter that will speed up your process and take you through all 140+ AD sites.
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http://www.bellaonline.com/ArticlesP/art12838.asp

Some of the links are dead, but the ones that are live are generally good.
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I found a small bug in the software and had to take it down. It will be fixed by Monday morning (11/28/05) when I get back to my office.

If you want a list of places to submit articles, I have started a list of all known sites using the Article Dashboard software. It is at http://www.after5webdesign.com/direc...ndex.php?c=473 . If you know a site that isn't on my list, pm me, email me, or contact me through the After 5 site.
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Here's a great place for submitting articles (of all kinds), in case it has slipped all the lists.

http://www.theezine.net/
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Here's a great place for submitting articles (of all kinds), in case it has slipped all the lists.

http://www.theezine.net/
It's on my list. ;)

I have 191 sites so far, but I'm not done searching yet.
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Here's a great place for submitting articles (of all kinds), in case it has slipped all the lists.

http://www.theezine.net/
It's on my list. ;)

I have 191 known Article Dashboard sites, but I'm not done searching yet.
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Hi, I am new to this. You write an article, submit it to all these article sites, and then what happens? Apparently they publish the article, which contains a link back to your site - is there anything else you do to promote the article and your website?
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Nope. That's pretty much it. You write an article which is essentially giving away some of your content, and in return you get a one way link. The one cavet is that sometimes site owners will copy your article to their web site, in which case you get another free one-way link. If you write a sufficiently good article on a very good topic, you can get it reprinted to lots of sites, which gets you lots of free one way links. In many cases, the page your link is on won't have hundreds of other links, so links from articles usually pass a bit more PR.

Combine this method with all the Free SEO Friendly Directories and an RSS feed, and your site can get about 1000 one way inbound links from one article. It just takes time.
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Tim_Myth : I don't see ideamarketers.com on there.
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That's because its a list of sites using the Article Dashboard software. I don't think IdeaMarketers uses the AD software (but it could be just a really great customization).

If there are large numbers of sites that use the same script, I can easily add them to my submitter tool. I just want to avoid making an app that checks for a dozen different aspects of the site to try and figure out if thise is script ABC or script XYZ. (I'm lazy :D )
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Thanks or the intell Adam!

I just signed up for my first acct. and submitted my first article to http://www.ideamarketers.com

It was a breeze! In and out under one hour (registering included).

Can I submit the same article to other article sites?
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Yes, it is most beneficial for you if you put your article anywhere that will accept it. If you've included a link to your site, you will get a back link everywhere it gets published, so publishing everywhere possible is good.
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www.knowledge-finder.com

the above url is a article submission database a friend and I made, during the last jagger update it lost its index completely but it has slowly returned. Traffic is at an all time low which should give you a good indicator of the value of article spam. I believe it is worthless, now if you can get someone with a good site to post (1) unique article you are in business.

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Thanks,

I'll get that one spread around. I can register in several of the places above and submit.

What if I have articles in a blog and on my website that Google knows about, then I submit them and get a few published elsewhere.

Would this be duplicate content problems? Shouldn't be or it would contradict the idea of getting some articles in databases and having them published at many sites.
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Hiya all,

I agree that writing articles seems like a great idea. And some of the article distribution sites also seem like a good start. CZ, I too have wondered, do your published articles really do that well if they are used on several websites and there is a duplicate content penalty? Could you maybe do better if you just post the articles on your own site? And if the articles are really that good, won't people link to them? OR maybe it is just better to try and get published with one worthy publication.

Not trying to argue against this strategy, I'm just asking because I've wondered myself....
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That's what has kept me from distributing the articles I've been working on.. Is the inbound link worth enough to overcome the duplicate (or identical) content issue?? At what point does having the articles posted out there overcome the content is king mantra??
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Articles are good but IMO its the in context link which makes them even better. Forget the by-line link go for the in text link.

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MarcGrobman and Feydakin: if the articles are that good, people will both link to them and republish the articles themselves.

The problem with the duplicate content penalty is that it gets misinterpreted. There is no way for Google to tell which site had the content on it first, so how could it penalize a second, third, fourth site for having the same content?

Here's an example search:

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid...q=iKobo+review

In this example, #1, #2, #4, #5, and #7-10 are all the same article, but on different sites. If there were a duplicate content penalty, would these sites not all suffer from it in favour of a site that had an exclusive review of iKobo?

Articles do perform well, if written well enough, and do get distributed.

Here's another one, for those who may need another example:

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&sa...Business+Sense

In this case, #1 and #2, #4-7, and #9-10 are all my article. (Distribution ROCKS.) The client that article was written for put on a green building conference last month, and I wrote that for search engine promotion reasons. Between the article and his work promoting, the conference became a 4-day conference instead of a 2-day, and was overbooked slightly at that. And apparently next year, it's going to be week-long.

It also boosted the sustainabilityincubator.com link to a PR2 with no other promotion. I know PR is logarithmic, so hitting PR2 isn't all that hard, but for one article and no other promotion, that says something.

So write your articles and write them well.
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Thanks Adam for the good solid evidence! It looks like a winner to me. And your right, write good articles. It reminds me of some of Matt Cutts comments. He says that all these SEO games will only get you so far, and could get you into trouble. He encourages good solid ideas that get a buzz and attract organic links. They'll go a lot further than BS articles written purely for SEO. And wouldn't we all rather create something that is contributing and helping people rather than just tricking search engines.
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I write for a lot of magazines, newspapers and my own sites and syndicate most of it with RSS and blogs. All of these are better than using plain websites for backlinks or PR. A good blog will get it in the Google search in 24 hours or less, at least mine do or did (things change there by the minute with me).

You can do that, and to answer your question just click on THIS URL

Write content rich articles and sell into the content, oh, yeah, I mean give it to them. Use "content rich" or "targeted" and you will be in the right room. A simple slip of the tounge and you may find yourself a spammer, slammer, bowler, or black hatting the night away.
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