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10-26-2005, 08:14 AM
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Jagger2 : the situation seems to get worse
Matt Cutts has announced the release of Jagger2 on several DCs. I tried a test:
http://66.102.9.104/search?hl=de&q=wlan+tagungshotel
is worse than ever.
Look at the new #1 :
www . zugbruecke . de/Hotel_Urlaub_Wellness_Tischtennis_Tagungen/Tagungshotel.html
The Google SPAM detection algo does not only not catch this, but it is even #1!!
Let me cite Matt: "But that data center shows the direction that things will be moving in ..."
If this is the direction Google is heading to ...
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10-26-2005, 08:27 AM
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Well, I we just got passed up by more free greeting card corporate link giants. But I do see that same javascript redirected page is beating us still with his little 2k page.
Just one question, where the f*ck are the improvements in relevancy in this Joker update? Oh well...just alittle bitter :P
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10-26-2005, 08:42 AM
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Not my forum, good self edit, mod not needed. Actually that has cheered me up no end. I was just about to climb on the roof and jump off. Now I'll take a ladder up on to the roof, climb up that, then jump. It's driving me, oh why can't I type what I feel? NUTS
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10-26-2005, 08:53 AM
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... this Joker update? ...
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Good idea. Let's call it "Joker" instead of "Jagger"
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10-26-2005, 08:59 AM
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At a quick glance, I'm seeing my SERP's return to pre "downdate" levels at theses data centers...
66.102.9.99
66.102.9.104
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10-26-2005, 09:18 AM
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not seeing any changes myself.
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10-26-2005, 09:23 AM
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Google's has taken a serious turn for the worse in regards to keyword association.
christmas cards - #11 (dropped 7 slots)
holiday cards #21 (was #1 & #2)
christmas holiday cards #1 (remained)
holiday christmas cards #2 (dropped only 1 slot)
OK...considering the keywords and association with disparity in ranking, makes Google newest algo a total relevancy joke. I might be able to make the argument that all of the site which are now top 10 on Christmas cards or Holiday cards are deserving, which I still believe for the most part is true. But the more serious issue becomes is why Google's algo cant make the distinction between the keywords with such a great disparity in the results shown. Google used to be very good at this. "Just Google it" has become what the $%^&*?
LOL
cards christmas #2 compared to christmas cards #11
cards holiday #2 compared to holiday cards #21
What a joke. Before this update, the top 10 was pretty much the same. IS that considered an improvement? I dont think so.
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10-26-2005, 09:36 AM
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Want a laugh, need a laugh? Google is showing 'Results from Yahoo are'I kid you not
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10-26-2005, 09:45 AM
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Want a laugh, need a laugh? Google is showing 'Results from Yahoo are'I kid you not
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10-26-2005, 09:52 AM
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How about this "hosing"? Site launched and indexed during update:
www.precisioncompletion.com
Do a GOOGLE search for precisioncompletion.com and look at the cache - A PR7 and the wrong website!
Half of the listings are correct and the other half pertain to that other site.
Seems like everywhere I look there is disarray!
Have they just lost it completely?
Is it internal sabatoge?
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10-26-2005, 10:03 AM
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Want a laugh, need a laugh? Google is showing 'Results from Yahoo are'I kid you not
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It was Right to Buy Facts but it's vanished, I wish I'd saved it |
10-26-2005, 10:29 AM
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faglork,
When I click on your link, I still get the "Rosewood" Site cache.
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10-26-2005, 10:36 AM
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Google blame
I tried the precisioncompletion.com link and notice that their search page blames the web site owner for the problem. They're a generous bunch.
Hmmm.
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10-26-2005, 10:47 AM
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dburdon,
Where do you see that?
Thanks,
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10-26-2005, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by greeneagle
How about this "hosing"? Site launched and indexed during update:
www.precisioncompletion.com
Do a GOOGLE search for precisioncompletion.com and look at the cache - A PR7 and the wrong website!
Half of the listings are correct and the other half pertain to that other site.
Seems like everywhere I look there is disarray!
Have they just lost it completely?
Is it internal sabatoge?
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I had this happen not once, but TWICE with Google. Two domains that are stopped by my server are indexed by Google for a third site that isn't even related!
The Correct Site (Award Kitchen Refacers
Incorrect Site #1
Incorrect Site #2 (apparenlty since fixed)
Now...
Google SERP for "Award Kitchen Refacers"
In Google's defense, apparently Yahoo! messed up and grabbed ianellis.ca the same way so I'm not totally sure if that was just a temporary hiccup. But NO one grabbed Ontario Mantels like that other than Google.
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10-26-2005, 11:11 AM
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Re: Jagger2 : the situation seems to get worse
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Ok here is what scares the $hit out of me. Using the above DC 66.102.9.104 I am number 1 for nipple jewelry
On the main Googlizizzle site I am number 2.
No kidding, I am very frightened. How the heck will all this shake down if we are in the middle of Mick and the boy's Second world tour.
Waitress, bring me a freaking triple. Its noon somewhere.
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10-26-2005, 12:42 PM
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ok now i see change in the http://66.102.9.104 datacenter. My company went from #4 for "orlando search engine optimization" to #15. I don't like that. |
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