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Old 10-25-2005, 07:22 AM
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I am a novice at this stuff but I do see a funny result from the last update.

I write articles on a subject that is kind of a niche so they get very good immediate results in Google. When this update happened most/all of the pages went from page #1 in google to page #3 or worse. Now the pages have PR BUT they are no longer getting any traffic from Google and some appear to be almost sandboxed in the 200-300 range for their keywords?

Does PR kill? Is this why Amazon is constantly moving around folders so their pages do not get the dreaded PR?

Help! :-(
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:00 AM
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aaron2005,

That's a real interesting question!

We all like to think we check out all the empty rooms in those hallowed halls, but this is the first time I have heard that proposed.

Who knows, maybe PR does "flag" or "Stimulate" the "Potential Increased Ad Revenue" Logic Bin, Bins, Rows of Bins... or even entire matrices!

That's not as "far out" as it initially sounds. After all PR is applied at many levels through most of the algs, including up to and through a tiered "Trusted Site" Alg, issuing special privilages and advantages... at some PR Level.

Why not "squee$$$e" the "hump" on the "Bell Curve"?

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Old 10-25-2005, 10:46 AM
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Yes indeed Ken and I have to say out of all the people here you are the most open to new ideas. It just seems so lame that about.com and amazon.com are always ruling with pages that do not show any visual pr yet, check the URL's, they are constantly changing them, VERY interesting eh? Right when my pages get PR, they drop right off the charts, just seems to make sense..
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Let's think about this...

Do the "midrange" Popular PR, say; 4-6 get bled off to Paid Advertising to some extent... That is the apex (highest percentage) of the "Bell Curve" in popularity, isn't it?
6 or 7 is "teetering" on "trusted site status", and then you start to "blow out" from there on the "downslope" of the "Bell Curve". That just doesn't seem too absurd to me at all!

Why not?

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I'm beginning to believe that PR has lost most of its value as a true influencer on search. Its value seems to be limited as a bargaining chip in reciprocal linking. I saw a PR5 site on another forum advertising links for $7. There seemed to be few takers.

Anchor text and the relevancy of the originating page seem to much have greater influence on the SERPs.
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This seems close enough to my questions to save space?

I was wondering why so little talk about the PR changes.

I KNOW, PR doesnt count to many of you, so if thats your response we can reserve that as a given. But the changes in PR were huge from what I saw, and just like this past spring, some of them made almost no sense to me. Again many sites jumping form 0 to 5, last spring some 0 to 6.

Overall I saw a good increase in PR across the board, yet this has not had any connection to search results or saturation I can see.

Any good posts on the most recent state of PR in the world would help everyone reading, and maybe help me understand if I should feeel even the slightest sense of vistory over vastly increased PR's.

...gold star for me or no.
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The only thing I notice from going from pr4 to 5 is that adsense PPC increased while traffic decreased. A few bloggers who enjoy my writing (who linked to my site) went to PR6 this update, are they the ones I should thank for increased PPC in Adsense? I hate this, I have finally decided to come here and figure this painful stuff out and the more thought put into it, the more questions I have. Wouldn't it be great to abduct someone from Google on their way to work and force some answers out of them? Heh Heh

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In a recent interview in the german computer magazine "c't" Urs Hölzle, vice president of Google Europe, revealed that the position in the SERPs is not dependend on PR. PR is obviously only ONE factor of many others.

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