PR Update Underway / 19-Oct-2005

wrmineo · #1 (**permalink**) 10-19-2005, 08:45 PM

Google has begun the much anticipated update for Page Rank and backlinks:

Data center 216.239.57.104 is beginning to show results and a few others are starting to rumble.

I'd suspect by Friday the data centers will have undergone a synchronization and the public toolbar update should be stable ... patience young grasshoppers :)

whipnet · #2 (**permalink**) 10-19-2005, 08:47 PM

Thanks for the update... will be watching.

*

aaron2005 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-19-2005, 08:53 PM

-=PR

DMC_34 · #4 (**permalink**) 10-19-2005, 09:10 PM

At first glance, it looks like I might finally get that PR 5 on my newer site, atleast according to one DC. I guess that means...nothing :)

DMC

nipplecharms1 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-19-2005, 10:06 PM

well Master, what is a DC and how do i find info on my site.

i want to know that Gizizzle loves me again!!!

thanks

michael

RidinHighSpeeds · #6 (**permalink**) 10-19-2005, 10:44 PM

I would like to thank all the members of webproworld as I have learned a lot of what to do, and what not to do when designing web sites.

My site http://www.defendingthetruth.com has finally jumped out of the N/A stages and today received a page rank of 4. It's such a great feeling!

Many of you have inspired me to keep working hard and it has indeed paid off. I have many great members on my forums and we just started doing some pod-casts last week. My professors and friends have seen the site and they all think it's amazing.

I thank you again,
Jonathan

DMC_34 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-19-2005, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nipplecharms1

what is a DC

Datacenter, Google has different datacenters some update before others during PR update.

You can check here to find out if your has fluctuations. The tool says future pagerank but its not it just checks various Google datacenters to displays the PR for a URL from each DC.

Keep in mind PR is fun to watch but IMO doesnt affect your rankings or love from Google.

DMC

aaron2005 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-19-2005, 10:58 PM

PR updates are even more stimulating than nipple rings!

-=Weeeeeeeeee

DMC_34 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-19-2005, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaron2005

PR updates are even more stimulating than nipple rings!

-=Weeeeeeeeee

LOL

And maybe a necessary distraction from the crappy serps of Jagger :)

DMC

Like2Golf · #10 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 12:22 AM

Hmmm. MsDar.net is showing my backlinks have gone from 90 to 0. Hopefully this is due to the fact that we're in the middle of an update.

...and for all those who's sites disappeared during this update. Check McDar.net. They're showing the reinclusion of my site across some DC's for a KW where I was #1. Before tonight at the begining of the update, I was nowhere to be found, Now at least I'm at 100.

All hope is not lost, as the Jagger Update continues...

sysop9999 · #11 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 01:24 AM

well... from what I can read from Matt's latest post, we're still in for a bumpy ride .... at least for a couple of weeks.

john_robot · #12 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 01:27 AM

On my PC I can see our new site hit's PR 5 from PR 0
But Some of my other PC's show me its still PR 0 ( All the PC's are in my house in a one network) How is this happening What can you guys see when you go to www.hotwebhostingtalk.com ?

sysop9999 · #13 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 01:31 AM

john_robot,

It shows PR 0 from here....

I wouldn't rely on anything that G has to offer in the next two weeks, though.

ChiefTutor · #14 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 02:17 AM

Is anybody seeing a correlation like adding up the total of the PR value of all the backlinks for a site and comparing them agianst the total of the PR value versus the other top 10 ranked sites or am I just imagining this?

cbp · #15 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Is anybody seeing a correlation like adding up the total of the PR value of all the backlinks for a site and comparing them agianst the total of the PR value versus the other top 10 ranked sites or am I just imagining this?

You can't do that as Google only ever shows a smallish random sample of the links to a site.

CBP

johnyfav · #16 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 03:50 AM

I never complain about updates. However it seems that one of my hobbies sites toolbar PR has stayed the same. I'm gutted. Why? Cos a site I just launched and spent no time gathering links for is now ranking higher.

I know it means nothing. It's just something simple to show my content writers.

Anyway I'm off to investigate why a site with 3 images and less text than there is on the back of match box is ranking better than one of mine for my main term. I think the on/off switch for css is going to get used.....

cbp · #17 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 03:58 AM

Quote:

I never complain about updates. However it seems that one of my hobbies sites toolbar PR has stayed the same. I'm gutted. Why?

Its not close to being finished -- its in flux - i just checked now and only one data center was updated --- so don't trust the toolbar PR until it over.

CBP

johnyfav · #18 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbp

Its not close to being finished -- its in flux - i just checked now and only one data center was updated --- so don't trust the toolbar PR until it over.

CBP

I checked the datacentre's Matt suggested.

216.239.57.99
216.239.59.104
216.239.37.104

No change on there for site A (hobby site) and leap frog time for the other site.

john_robot · #19 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 04:06 AM

yes its droped to 0 and came again to 5

smo · #20 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 07:07 AM

Surprisingly my main site got 40% jump in traffic in recent algo update but no change in toolbar ( it is 4 ) !!!

As my scripts and tutorials are widely discussed in forums and I have many back links from discussion threads to my internal pages. Many of my internal pages are at par with home page now ( including my forum ) by going up by one or two steps.

Any way I am happy with my traffic growing, but expected that all BL will add to my toolbar PR and that has not happened.

jestep · #21 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 09:06 AM

Toolbar PR isn't available yet. If you want to check the PR of your site you can do it at: http://www.mcdar.net/q-check/datatool.asp.

aaron2005 · #22 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 09:28 AM

Results so far:

Site in DMOZ going PR5

Site not in DMOZ going PR4

Site that was sandboxed for a year and has plenty of strong related backlinks but no listing in DMOZ, no PR increase, still PR4

Site that is over a year old that I just completely changed in content and started over, drop for PR4 to PR3

Oh that's right, I am just imagining the DMOZ connection. ;-)

Heh Heh

john_robot · #23 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 09:34 AM

No I think you are wrong here Our site has PR 5

http://www.mcdar.net/q-check/datatool.asp

But Its not listed on DMOZ also its only 2 months old.

johnyfav · #24 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 10:37 AM

I haven't seen any toolbar updates as yet.

However I have seen movement in 4 different fields.

And yesterday when I did a allinanchor:keyword check we were top of the food chain.

We're now sat at 6.

Which might be a reason for the drop in SERP's for said phrase......

nipplecharms1 · #25 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaron2005

Results so far:

Site in DMOZ going PR5
Site not in DMOZ going PR4
Site that was sandboxed for a year and has plenty of strong related backlinks but no listing in DMOZ, no PR increase, still PR4
Oh that's right, I am just imagining the DMOZ connection. ;-)
Heh Heh

Aaron, any distraction is a good distraction!

My PR is still a 4.

DMOZizzle sucks. The adult area (go figure, we are ONLY body jewelry) has not updated in 18 months. Personally, I think DMOZ is a scam. (Would that be considered heresy? Not that they can hurt me more than they have already.)

I am told by the "Knowledged" here to relax and wait. Sales are down 40%. But my Zen place is cozy! So I have that going for me.. as the saying goes.

I love this forum and thanks to all for your comments. I have learned a lot!!

M

aaron2005 · #26 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 12:26 PM

I do have to admit that I am still am sore at DMOZ and tend to focus on them ingnoring me for inclusion. Until they do, it's all their fault (pretty damn childish yes indeed)

Nipple Charms are so very hot, have you written an article titled "How to convince your wife to wear nipple charms"? I am not one to be easily excited BUT PR updates + nipple charms make me feel a bit,,, uhm how does one say - tingly!

Zen

beanstalk · #27 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 01:51 PM

http://www.msn.com/

Anyone notice anything odd about their PR? ;)

csorensen · #28 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 02:02 PM

I did notice that this Google update has the msn.com site at a Google PR of 2 --- it used to be 9! Of course it's not over yet, but I would think the PR might be finished by the end of the day today. Google must be trying to put MSN in their place. ;) Ha

Heat · #29 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 02:10 PM

It is over? I can't believe that's the final PR results. One of my sites gain a PR 4 (PR 5 before) in index. All my internal pages have now a good PR, but I'm looking at the MSN.com PR for about 12 hours and I can see a good PR 2 ...
Anyway, good search results will improve my traffic, not the PR. So, let's get back to work :)

Deep13 · #30 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 02:43 PM

It proved to be a very good update for me...
one of my client's site got PR6 and around 2200 backlinks

but one strange thing I noticed was..

My company site www.web1.in, had only 1 page single coming soon page for around 1 year,no links, no text nothing..(google scanned few inside pages which are no more present on the site)

few of my clients had linked me, google shows around 5 backlinks..and all are from only 2 websites..

Those sites have PR3 and PR2..

So I dont understand how come my site still got PR4?

Any one has idea about it? Does this mean that now google is going to give importance to something else than backlinks?

Deep

aaron2005 · #31 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanstalk

http://www.msn.com/

Anyone notice anything odd about their PR? ;)

Left Brain: That is extremely funny, and it appears to be there final PR, boy is that going to ruffle some feathers, how funny is that? ;0

Right Brain: Maybe we shouldn't laugh, MSN was throwing us some chump change in the form "visits" while we weather the lastest google storm.

Oh well, i'm going to watch Sponge Bob and fire down a bowl of frosted flakes with my son.

DMC_34 · #32 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanstalk

http://www.msn.com/

Anyone notice anything odd about their PR? ;)

I doubt MSN needs PR to justify them as a major force. Somehow I believe Google lovers and media will make it out to be MSN's fault. Probably another article about flying chairs caused it. After all Google never does anything wrong right? Umm right.

DMC

aaron2005 · #33 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 04:44 PM

I read that Matt at Google got tired of his Windows XP screensaver freezing so he installed Linux and put MSN on the spammer list.

But seriously, if it isn't a mistake it must be a messege to the folks at MSN, very interesting future news here.

Inbakumar · #34 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 06:31 PM

I am no expert in these matters but I know of a site that was launched only two months ago got a PR7 with this update (from PR 0). The url is:

www.milliondollarhomepage.com

Hope it provides some pointers to clever webmasters on this forum.

Joel

greeneagle · #35 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 06:36 PM

Quote:

"I doubt MSN needs PR to justify them as a major force."

What were they rated at by GOOGLE before the current PR2?

Ken

JAugusto · #36 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 06:47 PM

It's just me, or inbound links is a dead strategy now? I am seeing sites with no backlinks and PR5 and some with a lot of backlinks and PR2!!!!!

greeneagle · #37 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 06:51 PM

I had a PR6 for a long time with "0" Google IBLs, that's just not the whole "jar of mustard"! - Many updates ago!!!

Ken

**crankydave** · #38 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAugusto

It's just me, or inbound links is a dead strategy now? I am seeing sites with no backlinks and PR5 and some with a lot of backlinks and PR2!!!!!

You can't have a PR5 without IBL's. If you're using the backlink command, remember Google only shows a sample of the backlinks to a site and sometimes that sample is zero. Especially right now do to the flux of the current update. Secondly, focus on good content and relevancy rather than PR. PR is a snapshot of what was, history, not what is or what will be.

Without inbound links, nobody finds you... ever. Properly developing your IBL's from a multitude of sources is what will drive web traffic to your site.

Dave

DMC_34 · #39 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greeneagle

Quote:

"I doubt MSN needs PR to justify them as a major force."

What were they rated at by GOOGLE before the current PR2?

Ken

I believe they were a PR 8.

DMC_34 · #40 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAugusto

It's just me, or inbound links is a dead strategy now? I am seeing sites with no backlinks and PR5 and some with a lot of backlinks and PR2!!!!!

If PR is a strategy then its a very bad one.

One of my new sites has 1 IBL and a PR 3 and my older site has 9k IBL's and PR 6. My 8 month old site has 2,000 or so and PR 5. PR is a worthless obsession.

Your time would be better spent dodging parked cars. MSN's PR 2 proves it. This PR update nothing more than smoke screen for Googles latest algo.

DMC

roam_dx · #41 (**permalink**) 10-21-2005, 03:48 AM

funny update this one, one of my sites that had just 2 IBLs --- about 3 years old --- was a PR4. Just started exchanging links a month ago (relevant, good PR sites), and i exchanged maybe 10 links...now PR3...what the heck!!

...should I dump the links?? Or was it because of the dirty post I made on Matt Cutts blog???

Not that it matters and business for me is not totally SE dependant, also rankings are not much affected.

So the hell with it, I'll do what I want, and google can do what they want, lets see who outlasts the other...

I've fought alta vista, looksmart, lycos...what's a Google ;)...

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