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Old 08-12-2005, 11:16 AM
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Default Is Google Getting Into Behavioral Targeting, Or Not?

The following was written by Andrew Goodman

It's interesting to juxtapose the formal and informal statements of Google staffers (on panels, and in the hallway) on the question of making more behavioral targeting available to advertisers with the reality that they are piloting just such a program, as reported by MediaPost.

Googlers frequently take a more cautious line about privacy and the use of behavioral data than some of their competitors, such as MSN Search, who are planning to roll out more demographic targeting options for advertisers. "Our belief is that your data is your data" is a typical Google take on such matters.

Ok, so how to reconcile that with proceeding with this pilot program?

Well, for one thing, this doesn't involve Google itself directly tracking user behavior or using private data shared by its own users. It appears that it will be a voluntary disclosure by publishers about the aggregate demographic patterns of their readerships. No offline publication could sell ads without that. If publishers do a good job of communicating that information, advertisers will find them through the AdWords Site Targeting platform, and their rates will go up. If they do a poor job of it, they'll confuse people and wind up being an underperforming part of the AdSense network.

By pushing ahead with this pilot with little warning, but making the fundamentals of the initiative more benign than they first appear to be, perhaps Google is hoping to spur rivals into doing something crazy and getting into backlash territory. Regardless of the motivations behind the timing or the design of the program, Google seems likely to pursue a gradualist approach that does less to implicate Google directly in privacy issues than the approaches that seem likely to emanate from more aggressive rivals.

Yahoo also seems to be taking a gradual but steady approach. It's definitely good for advertisers, but they need to take care that it's also fair to users. Many in the advertising business will push them to overstep reasonable bounds of user privacy. They ought to resist that pressure.

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Old 08-12-2005, 12:44 PM
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Default Difficult, but the future?

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Think of it, a spider that sits on a site and collects information about surfers bahavior and fits / maps Ad to the behavior and not text or KW's on the site. As behavior changes, Ad changes dynamically. Is a similar technique used by Google (was it?) AdSense for RSS? It is not available in Norway yet, and not on my international site. I should like to have it.

amazon does it their way.

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Old 08-13-2005, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: Is Google Getting Into Behavioral Targeting, Or Not?

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The following was written by Andrew Goodman

It appears that it will be a voluntary disclosure by publishers about the aggregate demographic patterns of their readerships. No offline publication could sell ads without that. If publishers do a good job of communicating that information, advertisers will find them through the AdWords Site Targeting platform, and their rates will go up. If they do a poor job of it, they'll confuse people and wind up being an underperforming part of the AdSense network.
Well, the Publisher could disclose as and when they have this demographic patterns of readership! For this, I feel one should possess programs like Live Stats (http://deepmetrix.com) with fully functional reports on Visitor behavior, Who visits, when, how much time spent, page clicks, etc. Also focus on Search engine patterns like keywords phrases, Pay per click keywords from google, overture, other, etc.

Google itself should provide such stat to its adwords and adsense account holders - Why not? Maybe they can charge a small fee.

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I was updating my blogger blog and I noticed that data was being transfered from urchin.com so I loaded it up to see what it was - it turns out to be a web analytics site owned by google. So I'd say, yes, google are more than dabbling in demographics.

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Old 08-14-2005, 10:17 PM
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I can no say it better than this:

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