PR Update Underway?

[DreamingEagle]

Swore I would never do this, but my site appears to be going from 5 to 6. Could the update be underway?

[jacobwissler]

There has been an update here of both the green bar and the number of backlinks. Looks great!

[steve_avs]

I can confirm, backlinks increased from 233 to 918, but PR dropped from 6 to 5....uuuhhhh??

Steve

[beanstalk]

This one's definitely an odd one.

Raised the bar again did they?

[cbp]

but PR dropped from 6 to 5....uuuhhhh??

There is a general downward tend of PR for everyone at every update. PR is a finite amount, so as the www grows, the amount available for each site decreases --- so you need even more links to maintain PR, let alone increase (unless its a new page/site). Your previous PR could have been 6.00000000001 and is now 5.99999999999 - not much of a difference.

CBP

[brian.mark]

Since we had done a wide-scale restructuring just before the last update, it's nice to see that our pages (other than the homepage) now have PR. What an improvement. Maybe we won't have so many people refusing to link to us now.

Brian.

[petermas]

YES! My site went from PR5 to 6! Links still not counted tho...
Looks like all the pages linked to the home page got a PR5 and those under PR4 etc... Only exception my page
http://www.annamariavolpi.com/how_to_eat_spaghetti.html
that jumped from zero to 5.
Things started to pick up when I started adding new pages, original articles and content. This doesn't look like just an algoritm. Couldn't some humans be looking at the sites?
Pietro

[maxseo]

It could be true. There might be some human at Google fitted with 1000 999GHz processors checking out all 8 bilion pages

[DMC_34]

The logic of PR doesnt make sense to me anymore. PageRank was supposed to measure IBL's vs OBL's. My new site has been through 2 PR Toolbar updates. The pages with the least amount of IBL's have PR 5's. The pages with the most IBL's have 4's. Even a 1 month old page with NO outside IBL's now has a PR 5. I find that amusing.


DMC

[onelife]

Around a year ago I was very interested in PR, but once I realised how little impact it made on my sites traffic I quickly forgot about it and removed
the google toolbar.

For well over a year we have been a PR4 site, starting with 30 visits per day and now to over 7,000 per day and all with the same PR4. Our traffic really boosted once we stuck on adsense, don't know why because it's not supposed to biased but we went from 500 visits per day to 4,500 per day in around three weeks and it keeps on going up.

I'd love to have a higher PR than my competitors but only to say that I have. Even though I still beat them in ranking terms even with there PR6 sites.

Maybe one day I'll be allowed into DMOZ and all will change?

[dburdon]

It seems to me that the variation in page rank between pages on the same site is much lower than previously. Maybe the Google algo has changed again?

[kerer99]

Yay - finally! I've been waiting soooo long for this.

Hope the updated benefited all of you. :)

[derrickcm]

Hi All,

Does anyone know how long it usually takes PR to fully adjust during an update? Inbound links from one of my sites increased from 32 to 268 at last check, but the PR4 of the home page hasn't changed... although I noticed that all new pages now have PR. Should I assume everything is finished? Thanks!.

[markhallgate]

my site has been updated and it seems to make more sense this time, previously my highest pr pages were the gallery pages and the lowest were actually usefull free information pages. This time it has swaped round and most of my pages have increased a little in pr.

[montytx]

My main site went from a 3 to 4 and another from 2 to 3.So Im pretty happy. I just wish they would find my BLs.

[cbp]

Does anyone know how long it usually takes PR to fully adjust during an update?

It dosen't - the PR that Google exports to the toolbar for public display would hae been incorporated into the search results as long as two weeks ago .... thats why its such a non-event.

CBP

[wavedancing]

Originally Posted by montytx

My main site went from a 3 to 4 and another from 2 to 3.So Im pretty happy. I just wish they would find my BLs.

About 10 of my sites from 0 to 2 or 3. 1 site from 0 to 5 and one from 0 to 4. A couple of my other sites went from 4 to 5 or 3 to 4. No PR drops for all of my 25 sites. And all brand new sites get PR at least 2. It seems like I have no reason to be unhappy but I still wish it increase more. Then I remember that PR is not important. So ...?

[flood6]

Wow. My first PR7 site... I registered the domain a while ago but only put it up a couple of months ago. It's the site with the Firefox extension in my sig; mostly a patchwork of stuff I had hosted elsewhere (so a lot of 301's from established pages).

I'll be the first to point out that PR is becoming less relevant to SEO but it's still somehow satisfying to see all that green.

[cspelts]

Congratulations flood6! I want a PR7 too!

[DreamingEagle]

This update appears stuck, however. http://www.thisisouryear.com/?p=predict. This tool shows 18 Google data sources.

My site went to PR6 on 8 of the 18 centers over 24 hours ago. It stayed stuck that way until just now when suddenly I have slipped back to 5 on one of them.

I've never seen any kind of a rollback, but am getting a bit nervous.

[DreamingEagle]

Originally Posted by derrickcm

Hi All,

Does anyone know how long it usually takes PR to fully adjust during an update? Inbound links from one of my sites increased from 32 to 268 at last check, but the PR4 of the home page hasn't changed... although I noticed that all new pages now have PR. Should I assume everything is finished? Thanks!.

It's usually done in 36 hours, but I've been stuck at PR5 on 10 of the 18 data centers I'm monitoring, and just backslid by one, now reporting PR5 on 11 of them. The other 7 are reporting PR6.

Hard to celebrate until what's done is done.

[punith]

pr of our site increased from 6 to 4 but ther is no backlink updation for me

[DreamingEagle]

This is the one they should have called the Bourbon update.

[mystic]

ok i don't get it. I've had a pr0 ever since i had my website untill today! I've got a pr3 on my home page and pages on my link bar and each category page of my directory r pr2's now. I'm happy. But I thought once this happened i'd actually get that much traffic, but i realized i haven't got one hit from google all of today or yesterday even with a pr3.

So what exactly am i supposed to do, to get tons of traffic from google if PR doesn't mean anything?

[DMC_34]

Originally Posted by mystic

ok i don't get it. I've had a pr0 ever since i had my website untill today! I've got a pr3 on my home page and pages on my link bar and each category page of my directory r pr2's now. I'm happy. But I thought once this happened i'd actually get that much traffic, but i realized i haven't got one hit from google all of today or yesterday even with a pr3.

So what exactly am i supposed to do, to get tons of traffic from google if PR doesn't mean anything?

Forget PR and go for keyword rankings.

[flood6]

Yeah, don't concentrate so much on PR, it is just a small factor. Just keep working on inbound links with keywords in the anchor text. This will eventually have the side effect of improving your PR, but only incidentally; the links themselves are where the value comes from.

Also, only the PR we see has changed. The PageRank Google uses internally is likely updated more frequently or even constantly. So the changes in the Toolbar PageRank (the PR that we see) has likely already been included in the algo Google uses to place sites in the SERPs (included weeks ago). So that's why you're not seeing a sudden boost in traffic or in the SERPs; it already happened and will continue to happen almost constantly.

[mystic]

so if i forget pr and just focus on ranking high on certain keywords, how can i rank high. Can I rank high by having my main keywords closer to the top of the page or in the title and to rank high in them get more and more links to my site and those links containing the keywords i want?

[web-content-king]

rank high for particular keyword=

PageRank (of that webpage and of the site as a whole)
+the keyword in the anchor text of inbound links to your site
+keyword in page title, first heading, and possibly elsewhere in the page and site as well as in the anchor text of links on the page (very important)
+lots of luck

end result=you might end up no. 1 for a few days, drop to 10 for a week, go to 2 for three months, back at 1 for a few months, then off the first page entirely...

...at least, that's how it's been with all the keywords I've been watching.

[freehits]

Originally Posted by mystic

so if i forget pr and just focus on ranking high on certain keywords, how can i rank high.

....this sums up why WPW has 10's of thousands of threads. Not to say go read them, just meaning this sentence seems like the elusive question neatly stated.

We just moved to PR6 on a site with 155K pages indexed and I cant find it in the top 100 for anything, anywhere. While this is a sandbox effect of sorts(we hope), being only 3 months old..I stilldont see that pr helping much.

I do hope that it will come out of the box and rank in accordance to its PR6 and 75 PR5 subpages, which should be page 1 or 2,.....but until i see it PR hasnt done anything for me there.

:)