How to be indexed fast by Google?

mess · #1 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 10:16 AM

I just arrived here and I want to start a discussions about google.

How can I be indexed fast and often by google bot?

Any suggestions, techniques, trics are welcome.
I would like to know how many weeks, months it take to google to crowl 15.000 pages from http://www.uk-loan-finance.com ?

I think that is usefull for everybody.

Thanks

KeithO · #2 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 10:58 AM

you already added your link to your sig. just give it time and they will visit. the spider comes here often. as far as frequency, you need to build links to your site and have dynamic content.

SEOforGoogle · #3 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 11:41 AM

You need to spiderbait your site.

jestep · #4 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 11:42 AM

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I would like to know how many weeks, months it take to google to crawl 15.000 pages from http://www.uk-loan-finance.com ?

Google will never crawl this many pages on a new site. Your site will have to be around for a while and you will need to get a lot of links into it for google to crawl this many pages. I would say that if you actively promote it, it will take several months for your entire site to be indexed and spidered. Google has been cracking down on large sites, and will not index all of the pages unless they are very unique and have good content on them.

**brian.mark** · #5 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 12:38 PM

You could always try the Google Sitemap program. I've tried it on a couple of new sites and had some success. It's worked VERY well on established sites.

Brian.

greeneagle · #6 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 02:01 PM

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"I would like to know how many weeks, months it take to google to crawl 15.000 pages from http://www.uk-loan-finance.com?"

How do you justify the need for 15,000 pages for a loan/mortgage company?

You'll probably trip the spam filters many refer to as the "sandbox" dumping that "load" into the system, if you haven't already.

The Loan and Mortgage Industry is one of the heaviest spammers on the Net almost equal to Viagra, Cialas, Pharmaceuticals and "Surprise your woman in bed".

IMO 15,000 pages for that kind of site have to draw "the flies all green and buzzing".

You may blow a main breaker there! No one can guess at where that is going.

Ken

KeithO · #7 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 04:18 PM

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"I would like to know how many weeks, months it take to google to crawl 15.000 pages from http://www.uk-loan-finance.com?"

How do you justify the need for 15,000 pages for a loan/mortgage company?

You'll probably trip the spam filters many refer to as the "sandbox" dumping that "load" into the system, if you haven't already.

The Loan and Mortgage Industry is one of the heaviest spammers on the Net almost equal to Viagra, Cialas, Pharmaceuticals and "Surprise your woman in bed".

IMO 15,000 pages for that kind of site have to draw "the flies all green and buzzing".

You may blow a main breaker there! No one can guess at where that is going.

Ken

That is a very valid point. Even going to the website myself, I don't know from first glance if it is a resource site or a link farm.

sem-seo-pro · #8 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 05:16 PM

Hi there

If all 15,000 pages are put up on the server at once and having read Googles latest patent filing it will appear as an obvious spam tactic and will never make it out of page 100 for results.

As for how long it would take simply read your website stats, see how many hits are credited to googlebot, usually its between 400 and 2000. Divide hit counts by 15 (avg hit count per page) and you'll come up with the number of pages it is spidering on it's visit.

However if you have broken links or an all javascript navigation menu you probably won't see pages indexed soon, if at all.

Clint

sem-seo-pro · #9 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 05:17 PM

One other thought.

As a new site it is also a good idea to consider a pay per click campaign while waiting results from the search engines.

Clint

don quichote · #10 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 05:32 PM

Hi,

If you want to be craweled faster or at least better.You could use Google's sitemap.They have a generator wich produces a .xml file.

Googlebot really likes it..

greeneagle · #11 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 05:42 PM

Hello and welcome aboard "don quichote". I should expect your advice will show us how to walk through those "cracks" between this existence and the next! Looking forward to it!

Ken

cyanide · #12 (**permalink**) 06-21-2005, 09:55 PM

considering I'm getting a domain.com cannot be found error, I'd say you'll be waiting a loooooonnnggg time.

even without the error...
(uk-loan-finance + 15,000 pages) = something fishy
- you'll get crawled, but don't expect any dramatic results

mess · #13 (**permalink**) 06-22-2005, 01:22 AM

Many thanks for all your posts.

But I have seen some sites lounched 2 months ago, and whe i try:

site:www.domain.co.uk -qwerrew I'm surprised to see:

Results 1 - 10 of about 144,000 .

So if somebody tell us how can be indexed so fast and so many pages 144.000 in 2 months he is the one.

**brian.mark** · #14 (**permalink**) 06-22-2005, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mess

Many thanks for all your posts.

But I have seen some sites lounched 2 months ago, and whe i try:

site:www.domain.co.uk -qwerrew I'm surprised to see:

Results 1 - 10 of about 144,000 .

So if somebody tell us how can be indexed so fast and so many pages 144.000 in 2 months he is the one.

Indexed and ranking are quite different. Just get zillions of links, submit a Google Sitemap XML feed, and then watch yourself be sandboxed for a year or more if you really just want to be indexed and don't care if someone can find you. The advice given above was supposed to help you realize what you need to do for rankings as well as indexing, not one without the other.

Brian.

theswami · #15 (**permalink**) 06-22-2005, 07:13 PM

brian-mark - are you saying that it's the zillion links or the XML or both that's going to hurt the site? We've just implemented the XML sitemap into our site, which has been 'sandboxed' for about 11 months; not so much in hopes of breaking out, but more to help out Google with navigating the site.

What we've seen is that Google seems to have dropped many of our pages - almost ignoring the usual site crawl and opting ONLY for the XML sitemap.

I would love to know if anyone else has had any experiences as of yet with the Google sitemap good or bad.

Thanks

JonOSteen · #16 (**permalink**) 06-22-2005, 08:12 PM

I would worry more about building content, not building pages.

**brian.mark** · #17 (**permalink**) 06-22-2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by theswami

brian-mark - are you saying that it's the zillion links or the XML or both that's going to hurt the site? We've just implemented the XML sitemap into our site, which has been 'sandboxed' for about 11 months; not so much in hopes of breaking out, but more to help out Google with navigating the site.

What we've seen is that Google seems to have dropped many of our pages - almost ignoring the usual site crawl and opting ONLY for the XML sitemap.

I would love to know if anyone else has had any experiences as of yet with the Google sitemap good or bad.

Thanks

When you submit a sitefeed, it is normal for the standard crawls to stop for a couple days. That's happened to every one of the few dozen I've submitted that to. After a couple of days, the sites got hit hard by Googlebot.

I wasn't saying either was going to hurt the site. What I was saying is that just because those other sites you see are indexed doesn't mean they rank. That is a HUGE difference. I could build 10,000,000 pages that don't rank, or build 10 clear, concise pages with good content that all rank in the top 10. I'd rather have the 10 personally.

With Google, the more links you have from related sites to yours the faster (under normal conditions, not for banned sites) the site gets spidered.

Brian.