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02-17-2005, 09:34 AM
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Help! Yahoo ranks site well, google doesn't
http://www.fitnessrepairparts.com
According to my site stats, we get about 3 to 4 times the traffic from Yahoo, and 2 to 3 times the traffic from MSN than we do from Google.
I'm assuming that is something in my site design that is keeping google from being able to efficiently crawl our site, or give it good ranking in searches.
Can you guys take a look at my source and maybe give me some clues.
Thanks,
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02-17-2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: Help! Yahoo ranks site well, google doesn't
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Originally Posted by PiercedMedia
http://www.fitnessrepairparts.com
According to my site stats, we get about 3 to 4 times the traffic from Yahoo, and 2 to 3 times the traffic from MSN than we do from Google.
I'm assuming that is something in my site design that is keeping google from being able to efficiently crawl our site, or give it good ranking in searches.
Can you guys take a look at my source and maybe give me some clues.
Thanks,
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Dear PiercedMedia,
Welcome to the on going battle. This is because your site is geared more towards Ranking well in Yahoo and MSN. My suggestion is reading the ongoing threads and use the quick search bar here on the forum. Read and Read, then read some more. When you are sick of reading, have friends and small children and immigrants read the results to you. Here amoung the vast amounts of information you will find things that help you.
Cheers
RS
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02-17-2005, 03:46 PM
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The most obvious thing to look at is your incoming links. Yahoo and MSN weigh on-page content more heavily than Google - with Google you need incoming links to rank well.
Then there's your "Page List" - I wonder if you renamed it "Site Map," would that help with Google? Does Google actually look for that phrase? I don't know.
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02-17-2005, 06:12 PM
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02-17-2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cspelts
Then there's your "Page List" - I wonder if you renamed it "Site Map," would that help with Google? Does Google actually look for that phrase? I don't know.
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Google recommends a sitemap.htm file in the root directory of the site. This helps the bot to crowl deeper and to reach all the pages.
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02-18-2005, 09:53 PM
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Thanks ecobo!
But what about site-map.asp or other variations in the root directory? Does it have to be a straight html page?
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02-18-2005, 10:33 PM
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Same here
I have the same issue. I have written off as that is just the way it is. I have several top 10 phrases on all the other engines but not google. You have to have a ton of bls and then wait forever to get results.
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02-19-2005, 01:10 AM
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Re: Same here
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Originally Posted by montytx
I have the same issue. I have written off as that is just the way it is. I have several top 10 phrases on all the other engines but not google. You have to have a ton of bls and then wait forever to get results.
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My site ranks very well with Yahoo and MSN, but so far back in Google, they had just as well not even list it
My site is very young; only been online a couple months, and not that many pages yet
Google seems to place so much emphasis on backlinks and over 50 pages, that many of the top listed sites on Google are not even relevant to your search
My impression is that Content is secondary, and sometimes not even relevant
If I want to do any research, I do NOT use Google
Too hard to find relevant info
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02-19-2005, 01:18 AM
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Then there's your "Page List" - I wonder if you renamed it "Site Map," would that help with Google?
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Thats a Sharp observation,
I have heard many who are wary of naming their link pages "linkpartner.html" or "links.html", most prefer to use page names that give away less about that pages contents.
Along this line of thinking it would be logical to make sure your site map had that exact name.
Not that this is an answer but good food for thought.
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02-19-2005, 01:18 AM
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02-19-2005, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cspelts
Thanks ecobo!
But what about site-map.asp or other variations in the root directory? Does it have to be a straight html page?
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It must be exactly as written here: sitemap.htm
That's Google says. I think .asp and .php will work as well, but I use a pure .htm file according to Google's instructions.
My site is on the top of the Google results for my main search phrases. I've used an optimisation service from instantposition.com to optimize each of the main pages - works like charm.
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02-19-2005, 08:03 AM
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ditto... probably in the next few months you'll be out
ps: your ssl cert expires in a few days
pss: if all you have is an email link to contact you, you'll be making it difficult for people who are not at their home systems.
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02-19-2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cspelts
Thanks ecobo!
But what about site-map.asp or other variations in the root directory? Does it have to be a straight html page?
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It must be exactly as written here: sitemap.htm
That's Google says. I think .asp and .php will work as well, but I use a pure .htm file according to Google's instructions.
My site is on the top of the Google results for my main search phrases. I've used an optimisation service from instantposition.com to optimize each of the main pages - works like charm.
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Hi, can you give the URL where it says this, looking on the guidelines page there, however I'm only seeing generic you should have a site map stuff.
I'm quite sure a sitemap.php or otherwise will work exactly the same as a sitemap.htm. Although I have seen the link1.htm,link2.htm blocker in place. When I renamed my links pages to keyword_resource.html I got pagerank that had been block or penilized for months.
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