Web analysis sites

[RichardS]

I have checked out a few of the web analysis site a few of you brethren have been posting.
I hate to say but those things are inaccurate as can be. Specifically web position for key words, broken links. I would like to find a site that is 100% accurate, That can tell me, and I can actually confirm: web position, links, and PR. The following links I found to be flawed.
http://www.sitereportcard.com/
http://watson.addy.com/ Dr. Watson--OK but weak, wont verify all links
http://www.top25web.com/ seems OK for PR and links, but I actually don't know how many recip links I have, guess I need to count. I use Net Mechanic for quick reference, but it as well is inaccurate.

If you know of any web sites that are completely accurate/ via real time confirmation. i.e...web position please jump in here.
I'm stuck in a situation. I'm on the second page of Google, for my main key words, and have been battling to get in the top three ranking. This has been going on for the last three months, hundreds of lives have been lost in this effort. Enormous amounts of time and capital have been wagered. I cant seem to get over this hump.
I need someone to break it down one time like "Montell Williams" on one knee and hook me up.
What dya say.
Jason Tor
Ken
rivux
Marcie Szczubelek
Skeezers Magoo
ctabuck
Mtheory
slackjaw willie
hoptoo
toby_bird
stevetva
slappy
John_Kerry


Cheers


RS

[cspelts]

I may be way off here, but can any tool be totally accurate with Google dancing as furiously as has been the case in the last week? It seems to me that if the tool hits a different datacenter than you, the results would be different.

[freehits]

My concern is how you decide which one is most accurate, I tend to use the same over and over (Marketleap and lilengine.com), so at least my comparisons make sense, even if they are all short by 30%.


I got this below so far i will add if I find a clear winner, but as I said that will be left to your opinion

http://www.rustybrick.com/link_analysis.php

http://www.beyondroi.com/Backlink-Reporting-Tool.php - appears to feed off marketleap? Looks weak.


"Google has said plenty of times, in plenty of on-the-record public places that the backlink tool does not show all the links it knows about."
Is a quote from this thread below, which looks on topic and very good.
http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/...3&page=2&pp=20


This looks best to me thusfar.
I would love to get the PHP code on this toy, checks dmoz while its at it, and about everything else.

http://www.urltrends.com/

[ctabuk]

For checking links the ultimate tool is free
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html

(Thanks Minstrel)

[RichardS]

Originally Posted by cspelts

I may be way off here, but can any tool be totally accurate with Google dancing as furiously as has been the case in the last week? It seems to me that if the tool hits a different datacenter than you, the results would be different.

This is the crux. There are many "Web optimizer" sites that claim to optimize for Google. But do they actually do that? This is kind of a bleed over from the "Not GAGA over GOOGLE anymore..." thread or as I initially called it "The death cage match"
Do any of the analysis optimizer tools ACTUALLY know the Google ranking criteria?
Has the ranking criteria changed from relevant information to who has more links and recip links.
Somewhere, in one of these threads someone mentioned that ADwords may be ONE of the factors that effects ranking.
I am trying to assign some logical explanation and formula to something that has no logical explanation.
Here is a prime example:

This website is ranked #2 on Google for the key word "Edmond Real Estate"
Using the website "SiteReportCard.com, I analyzed their site and mine.

SiteReportcard.com
Site Title: 1st AAA Edmond Real Estate, Edmond Oklahoma Relocation Guide
Site URL: http://www.robertdavid.com/
Date: February 17, 2005, 4:17 am
Overall Rating: 7.17/10


Site Title: Edmond Real Estate Edmond Oklahoma real estate
Site URL: http://www.kathysparger.com
Date: February 17, 2005, 4:22 am
Overall Rating: 7.67/10

Details Rating Summary
Link Check 6/10 Broken links: 1
HTML Check 9/10 HTML Errors: 0, warnings: 17
Load Time Check 6/10 Load Time: 27.89 seconds
Meta Tag Check 4/10 Meta Tag Warnings: 2
Spell Check 10/10 Possible Misspellings: 1
Keyword Check 8/10 Total words: 131


Link Popularity

Google HotBot AllTheWeb AltaVista Lycos MSN AOL
90 38 33 33 0 N/A 90


Here are my results from the same page analyzer
Details Rating Summary
Link Check 10/10 Broken links: 1
HTML Check 9/10 HTML Errors: 0, warnings: 80
Load Time Check 1/10 Load Time: 66.21 seconds
Meta Tag Check 8/10 Meta Tag Warnings: 1
Spell Check 10/10 Possible Misspellings: 12
Keyword Check 8/10 Total words: 653

Google HotBot AllTheWeb AltaVista Lycos MSN AOL
SEI 126 96 120 117 98 56 126
Linkpop355 155 209 216 0 145 355

As you can see, my numbers are much better than the current site that is listed as #2.

So where is the logical explanation? It evades me.
Google is no longer a "Best results" Search Engine. It has morphed into something that is a "results depending on unknown factors" Search engine.
Is purchasing ADwords a key factor I am missing?
Does hits/clicks play a factor?
Is keyword saturation that relevant?
Will my two Jack Russell puppies ever be potty trained?
So many questions



Cheers


RS

[RichardS]

Here is another example of how @#$%***&# this "analyzer" is. I went back to the site and rechecked the results. Yes they were completely diffrent.

Summary Results for www.kathysparger.com
Site Title: Edmond Real Estate Edmond Oklahoma real estate
Site URL: http://www.kathysparger.com
Date: February 17, 2005, 11:13 am
Overall Rating: 6.17/10


Details Rating Summary
Link Check 1/10 Broken links: 34
HTML Check 9/10 HTML Errors: 0, warnings: 76
Load Time Check 1/10 Load Time: 52.22 seconds
Meta Tag Check 8/10 Meta Tag Warnings: 1
Spell Check 10/10 Possible Misspellings: 12
Keyword Check 8/10 Total words: 651


Search Engine Checks (click on a number to view results)

Google HotBot AllTheWeb AltaVista Lycos MSN AOL
126 96 120 117 98 56 126
355 155 209 216 0 145 355


Now this leads me to believe that there is not a service available out there that is completly accurate.
Hoptoo, thanks I'll look into the website.
There has to be more to this. Dont say it's just reciprical links, please. Thats the standard answer.
I'll do some more digging. I need to take a break and get away from the stinkin computer (stress's me out at times)
Think I'll get out my Mr. Microphone and Alfonzo break board and take a 30 minute break

Cheers



RS

[RichardS]

Good news Everyone.
After doing some digging and more digging.
I found that the reason you will get different results from the web analyzer SiteReportCard is.......
mainly your links on your index page.
One report said I had 4 broken links, another report says I had 41 broken links (mostly internal).
In all actuality I don't have any broken links.
Thus this raises an interesting line of thought.
If... a website analyzer is reading an index page as having 41 broken (internal links) (and giving it a poor rating) is Google doing the same? And...
When the web analyzer is able to connect with your internal links...ie... /index.htm/bookkeeping.html,
and gives you a good report, is Google doing the same and reading it as an inconsistent website and thus lowering your ranking.
I would like to think that Google has a little more stick to it than some website analyzer.
I'm going to do some more digging.

Cheers


RS