Sandbox Filter Removed

[jacobwissler]

The sandbox filter has been removed; this has happened before late at night on a Saturday (early Sunday morning). I suspect it will be back to normal within a few hours. It also happened right after Christmas, for a few days.

Also, Google has revised the Directory, this time it is not an old version, but appears to be a truly new version. Perhaps a person must get up in the middle of the night to see these things.

[greeneagle]

Jacob,
Could you extrapolate on what tools you use to determine if the Google Sandbox Filter has been removed.
Thanks,
Ken

[jacobwissler]

Two of my new sites created last July (which were #1 in Yahoo and MSN but not doing well in Google) are now #1 in Google. I know from experience, this will go away in 3 to 12 hours, and return to "normal" meaning the lower sandbox SERP rankings.

Now, for the mystery, a site that has been up since 2002 and contains zero spam has disappeared from SERPS. http://www.jacobwissler.com has been number #1 on all search engines, when you search for my name ( a very uncompetitive term) until now. As of this morning, is dropped so low in SERPS that even I can't find it. It is still in the index and still has Rage Rank.

Perhaps GoDaddy was down when Google crawled it, but still, they crawl often and have many back up copies.

Can someone take a look and see what I am doing wrong with http://www.jacobwissler.com ?

[activeco]

Originally Posted by jacobwissler

I know from experience, this will go away in 3 to 12 hours, and return to "normal" meaning the lower sandbox SERP rankings.

For me it is just one more anti-sandbox proof.
Don't get me wrong; there IS some kind of strange filter, but I strongly disagree the Sandbox "new domain-time delay-etc" theory.

It is obvious that Google releases SERP from time to time without the filter, until it finishes a new computation of - something.
With time bomb it wouldn't be necessary, time would be part of the algo without delay.

I am tempted to believe in some kind of additional linking filter; the IBL counting towards PR, but the filter reducing SERP values based on some kind of grow of IBL in some period of time, as noted several times.
Also, the link networks are probably already part of the same filter, which would also take some time for gradual settlement of final SERP.

[tcampione]

Originally Posted by jacobwissler

I know from experience, this will go away in 3 to 12 hours, and return to "normal" meaning the lower sandbox SERP rankings.

Please say it ain't so.... My sandboxed site has moved to page 1.

I'm extremely hopeful that this is permanent.

[iamrussell]

My site has escaped from the sandbox and is listing on the first and second SERPs. It did not come out the time before, right after christmas. I think this may be something different and may last. Also, not all sites have come out of the sandbox. It seems like the sites that are coming up on their 1 year birthday are the ones that are coming out.

[mj2043]

I have seen people reporting release of some type of filter in Google, it is not clear whether sandbox or some other.

[cbp]

Not sure it removed or not, but my severely sandboxed site discussed in several other threads has made it up to 81st !!!

CBP

[DriWashSolutions]

Originally Posted by cbp

Not sure it removed or not, but my severely sandboxed site discussed in several other threads has made it up to 81st !!!

CBP

Yeah - my site has been hanging out in the 90's for a particular term,
and today when I checked googlerankings.com, it's #2 !!

I hope someone can shed some light as to what filter has been removed - it'll certainly shed some light.

[DannyS]

Our sites started in July, September and October 2004 are out of the sandbox but one from December 2004 is still in. For this one it lost it's allintext and allinanchor number one positions on at least one Google datacenter. I wonder if Google is changing some of the "allins" algos.
Danny

[cbp]

The allins have been a boit 'screwy' for a few days - I would not trust them for what they are supposed to show.

CBP

[Ace]

One of my site is under sandbox so it is not true that google has remove all sandbox. This Website is almost year old but my other site which is just 7 months old is now out of sandbox.

[sem4u]

Not all sanboxed sites have come out. One of mine is out and one is even deeper into the sandbox - cannot be easily found for the company name...

[intruder2600]

at my database lot of older websites has come out of sandbox - my too - from less tnan 800 place to about 180. But a lot of other websites was sandboxed now - out of results - absulutly without any reason...

what's going on ??!!

now it's a second day after changes and i think that it's going to stay like that,

panic !!!

[sandis.viksna]

I have about 900 pages in google for 3rd month and today! BAM! they are in index, but they are not brining any visitors! What is happening? They are a steady source of 50-100 visitors a day, and now they stoped. I wonder. Has anybody experienced something like this?

P.S. I should start to do some google calendaring to at last know in what periods it does something so crazy.

[sandis.viksna]

I have about 900 pages in google for 3rd month and today! BAM! they are in index, but they are not brining any visitors! What is happening? They are a steady source of 50-100 visitors a day, and now they stoped. I wonder. Has anybody experienced something like this?

P.S. I should start to do some google calendaring to at last know in what periods it does something so crazy.

[hasit]

i am facing a SIMILAR kind of a problem in G with my domainname.com

I somehow feel this is new way G is going to ignore/penalize the websites. Infact i was in SearchGuild.com to ask for a solution or the reason for it.

Let us try to compare what happned with your website and mine, so that might help us to come to a conclusion.

My website was not ranked well since last 3 months, suddenly the ranking started dropping. In a major update on 5th-Feb-2005, it seems that i am now not even with the non-competitive keyword, BUT, BUT BUT, my website is still founded in G cached pages, i do show up in top 50 if i type domainname in G.

I also own other website, in which i am facing the same problem.

I would hope experts could help US.

thanks, Hasit

[sandis.viksna]

Well, hasit, situation is like this:

I have that website now for over 11 months. The pags that was there more than 6 months, is still in google and are number 1 for specific keywords.

But the new pages, that I added in 2004. november, and latter was bringing in nice trafic, but this morning - they are nowhere altough google spiders these pages regulary. So, after 3 months I have a strange situation - I am in index for search site:www.mydomain.com, but trafic has droped.

Maybe google again is recalculationg something?

Here the dynamic of my pages hits (at 7th feb, ~13:00 (lol, 12 hits in 13 hours today):

2005-02-07 12
2005-02-06 131
2005-02-05 158
2005-02-04 231
2005-02-03 224
2005-02-02 162
2005-02-01 199
2005-01-31 152
2005-01-30 188
2005-01-29 151
2005-01-28 113
2005-01-27 160
2005-01-26 199

jumping up and down like mad

[jestep]

Im seeing the biggest changes I have ever seen in Google. Whatever thay did, it has changed a lot, even on sites that are well established.

[crankydave]

The changes for me are profound. Whatever has been done I, of course, agree with it. I checked my serps earlier this morning and the had reverted back to whence the came briefly but have moved back to their "new" (fingers and toes crossed!) position.

As a point of reference, I went live with my site around March-April of '04. Am I a "big kid" now being allowed to join the rest of them on the playground? If it is not being released from the "sandbox", new/different meaning/weight/value has been given to anchor text and IBL link text and perhaps how it relates to content. On the surface, I can't see another reason for such a dramatic change for me.

Dave

[smo]

My main site is four years old but I started working on it by adding content and submitting to directory etc on July 2004. Before that some few pages with contact details were there. I got good result after July 04 and every month traffic from G was growing at a rate of 50 %. Started with 9 per day in July and reached 340 hits/day from G at end of March. During this period I was adding content and updating my site regularly. Based on my growth rate and knowing that Sunday traffic almost 50% of normal day traffic I was expecting 200 hits from G on 6th Feb.

But it went to 463 for 6th Feb and now for Monday it has already crossed 475 and at this rate it will end with 1000/ hits ( from G ) for Monday. Almost 2.25 times increase in traffic from Google. Some sudden jump in traffic.

But my other sites are not so lucky.

[sandis.viksna]

You're lucky! 1000 hits a day! I am happy with stable 160/day. sometimes 180! very rare times about 200-220! :)

Ah you ;))) will see how it goes in the next few days!

[kservik]

ODP data is updated and showing in Google toolbar.

My sandboxed site jumped from spot 500 to 580....well done! :-)

That was after Google found the site in ODP... ^^

[infinity003]

We jumped from like 20 to 1. Can someone provide some insight into what exactly the sandbox theory is? Maybe a reference or something. I'm confused as to what is happening with the whole jump that happened today. Can someone provide some insight for us "lamen"?

Thanks,
Greg