DMOZ and Google

[leesw]

Ok, I have a web site (http://www.realchristiansingles.com) that has been pending in DMOZ for over 9 months. The category is http://www.dmoz.com/Society/Relation...als/Christian/

After the first few months, I went to the message board of DMOZ editors and asked them about its status. They told me that it was "awaiting approval" and said I couldn't ask about it again for six months (Jan 1, 2005). So on Jan 3 I posted about it again. They said it was still "awaiting approval." One of them suggested that I put it in another category and that is when I submitted it to the one above.

Is anyone here a DMOZ editor? Can anyone help me out or offer some advice? I've got a number 8 ranking with yahoo for the phrase "Christian singles" and have some other good rankings with keywords. But with Google I can't get anywhere because of the monopoly they allow DMOZ to be.

Help. Please?

Lee

[voasi]

As great of a directory DMOZ is, it won't significantly shoot your site to the top of the SERPS for your keywords. Going is having a tough time releasing new sites (Sandbox effect). Get your site listed in the Yahoo! Directory. Start buying some links over at www.text-link-brokers.com . Continue to flesh and build out your site with content, not only for your users, but for the search engines as well. It will start to climb in google. :)

[cbp]

Is anyone here a DMOZ editor? Can anyone help me out or offer some advice?

Once you have submitted and conformed at RZ its waiting, there is nothing more you can do. Spend your time on other things.

Doing what you have done by re-submitting and submitting deeplinks has only created more work for editors to delete them - not a good move.

CBP

[cbp]

BTW - I just had a quick look at your site. I do not edit in the area that your site belongs, but if it was submitted in my area, I **MAY** not list it. The 'quick search' took > several minutes for me, so gave up. If I can't tell how many people you have in the data base (or could tell and there was not many), then its probably not listable. You need to make it easier...

voasi is right spend you time on other things to promote the site.

CBP

[sjk]

Hey voasi,

It looks like the site http://www.text-link-brokers.com/ has parked it for awhile~. Do you, or anyone else, know of a similar, recommend site that provides this kind of service?

[cbp]

http://www.text-link-ads.com/

[Christof]

CBP,

I'm sure I read somewhere ages ago that you're an editor for DMOZ? If so, a quick bit of advice please?

Anyway, in your humble opinion, would it help (if I had a site pending listing in DMOZ) to place a link to DMOZ on it? http://dmoz.org/link.html. Would an editor look just that little more favourably at a site with a link to DMOZ or would it have very little bearing on inclusion?

Cheers

Christof

[cbp]

Anyway, in your humble opinion, would it help (if I had a site pending listing in DMOZ) to place a link to DMOZ on it?

No. Sites are listed on the quality of their unique content.

CBP

[Christof]

Thanks for that, I'm glad to hear it!

One last one... do many people become editors to speed up their site's inclusion into the directory?

[sjk]

Originally Posted by cbp

http://www.text-link-ads.com/

Super, thanks so much CBP! :o)

[cbp]

do many people become editors to speed up their site's inclusion into the directory?

Maybe. There is no harm in applying to be an editor of the category for your site and add it (as long as it declared in the application) - HOWEVER, if thats all you do, then expect to get removed and your site taken out. Wanting to contribute to the greater good of the project should be a greater motivation.

When I first started editing, the first thing I did was add my site, the second thing I did (a matter of minutes later) was add all my competitors sites (and they were not even submitted!!!) - I am still there, editing in different cats unrelated to my sites. Also, sites I have submitted to areas I do not edit in seem to get added quickly (the editor there would not know its my sugestion) --- might have something to do with submitting a site with unique content and a title and description that is guideline compliant once to the one best category.

CBP

[Christof]

Very interesting, I'm grateful for your insights. It's tempting to become an editor, I'd like to do some community good! Does it take much of your time each week?

[cbp]

It takes as much time as you want to put into it. You only have to do one edit every 4 months not to time out.

Some call editors lazy ... but the analogy I use is that if I volunteer at a soup kitchen one day a month, am I being lazy if I don't volunteer 2 days a month? Same with DMOZ - adding one site a month, still adds value to the project.

CBP

[Christof]

I reckon I could handle that. Nice work, you've sold me!

All the best for now,

Respectfully,

CT

[cbp]

Location: Melbourne, Australia

Get wet? I in Box Hill

BTW - are you talking about the site in your signature - its already listed in DMOZ.

CBP

[Christof]

Blackburn this afternoon, raining as I speak.

Live in Fitzroy. (Sorry for anyone else reading this, CBP and I have just realised we're practically neighbours!)

The company I've just started to work for http://www.micropower.com.au has a basket case of a website, I've placed it for inclusion into dmoz to get the ball rolling while I re-design the whole thing. That's part reason for asking, however, I do quite a bit of amateur SEO for friends/relo's etc.

Hibermate's in DMOZ, I got it listed a few years back after reading MYSS and learning about how important it is.

Lastly, my five cents... As one of the most knowledgable members of "this here" community, I reckon you should write a book!

Gotta fly, MUST do some work.

See ya,

CT

[ctabuk]

Paying $200 per month for backlinks is crazy -read this and I hope it helps.
http://www.cre8asite.net/browseCats.asp?category=48

[magnolia1]

Originally Posted by cbp

Some call editors lazy ... but the analogy I use is that if I volunteer at a soup kitchen one day a month, am I being lazy if I don't volunteer 2 days a month? Same with DMOZ - adding one site a month, still adds value to the project.

CBP

A problem with that analogy is that if I was prepared to volunteer 2 days a month at the soup kitchen, the soup kitchen volunteers wouldn't say to me "sorry we have too many volunteers at this soup kitchen, please go and find another one."

[sjk]

Originally Posted by ctabuk

Paying $200 per month for backlinks is crazy -read this and I hope it helps.
http://www.cre8asite.net/browseCats.asp?category=48

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I saw how much decent backlinks were. I was thinking like $20 or $30, but for that you don't really get much. Thanks for the info, it is good stuff.

[freehits]

With all respect for people who give their time openly and freely as volunteers:

I had to edit my flame of a listing i had happened across in the ODP. It is just not productive to do that. Who polices what looks like an editor adding their own persoanl classifieds?

[cbp]

Who polices what looks like an editor adding their own persoanl classifieds?

There are seveal external and internal processes n place.

If you come across abuse, report it here:
http://report-abuse.dmoz.org/

Ask a question about it here:
http://resource-zone.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12

or PM me.

CBP

[freehits]

cool, I by all means dont want to be a board whiner as we have had a rash of those the past few days, and I respect the level of professionalism the DMOZ represents. So that said ...DMOZ good, board whiners bad, I just cant figure how a sub page advertisement got into a category from a curiousity standpoint.

PM coming

[jimmie1_us]

When It comes to DMOZ.. there is nothing you can do but wait. its all up to the editer clicking the add button on his or hers admin page. Getting that done is like pulle your eye teeth.
Good Luck !

Originally Posted by Christof

Thanks for that, I'm glad to hear it!

One last one... do many people become editors to speed up their site's inclusion into the directory?