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Old 01-13-2005, 01:28 AM
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I'm so frustrated. My 2 sites have almost completely vanished from Google. As for my site www.chelseasofnewyork.com, The name of my website won't even come up now! I was actually in the first 2 pages for most of my search terms. I added some new items for sale, could this have done it?

I'd love it, if anyone could look at my site and tell me if I have done anything "bad". I just don't understand.
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Its look as though its some sort of hijack - we have had a couple of threads on it ---- I have not followed it closely, so may need someone who knows more thn me about this sort of thing, but look at this:

gourmet gift baskets - corporate gifts - custom gift baskets ...
... Chelsea Company Gifts PO Box 57504, Los Angeles, CA 91403 Call Us Toll-free:
1-877-629-7192 Email Us. Copyright © 2001-2004 Chelsea Company Gifts. ...
http://www.leathertree.com/otherl.as...1D428EEB6A5%7D

I would email help@google.com and point this out to them.

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Hello Michele, a quick look at your home page shows that your keywords and description meta tags are duplicated, perhaps delete the duplicate tags and let Google spider it again.

It also seems to be stuffed with a few keywords, "sexy" is all over the site. Stripper and exotic are also there and those could be trimmed out a bit, see if that may help.

Your link in your post includes a ,/ at the end, removing that brings up your site. At first, I thought your site was down.

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Old 01-13-2005, 02:50 AM
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Thanks for your quick posts! I used a website builder, Citymax.com, so I'm not sure how to fix some of this.

Cbp - I'm not sure I understand what you mean by hijacked. Could you elaborate a little? I'm not quite yet at the intermediate level with all of this.

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What I posted above is a search result from Google for a phrase from your site. Click on the URL in my above post for leathertree.com - it redrects to you! ---- they hijacked your site!!!

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Old 01-13-2005, 03:06 AM
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Cbp,
Thanks so much for responding to me. I have exchanged links with them for a year or two, could that be the link exchange? Sorry if I sound like an ignoramous.
Michele :)
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Sorry, these kinds of redirects and how they happen is a bit beyond my understanding - I just have not paid a lot of attention to discussions on them -- there are plenty of others here that can shed some light on it.

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My wild guess is that you have added several new pages that have the same description and keyword tags. As a result, your site seems to have many pages with duplicate content (a search for site:chelseasofnewyork.com in Google gives 21 pages if omitted results are filtered and 208 pages if omitted results are includes).

There are, however, several actions you can consider if you want to affect SERPS:

1. As mentioned earlier: you have many duplicate meta tags on your pages. This might seems as an attempt to trick the SE. remove the duplicates.

2. You have a 302 from http://www.chelseasofnewyork.com to http://www.chelseasofnewyork.com/exo...ewearHOME.html. Should not have any big effect but you might try to set exoticdancewearHOME.html as your entry page in your servers setting instead of using 302.

3. Your description and keywords are similar at almost all of your pages. Search engines might assume that you do not have much uniqueness on your site. Try to vary those tags among your pages.

4. Your pages do not validate using http://validator.w3.org/. You can ignore many of the errors, but look for open tags (if any) and missing ALT attributes.

5. Here is an additional link using 302 to redirect to your site. http://www.teezemagazine.com/golink....rk.com&lid=288. Contact the webmaster and ask if they could change the link to not use 302 or remove the link. There is a bug in Google that penalties your site for having incoming 302 -redirected links.
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Hi Michele
In addition to the page hijacking that CBP has mentioned, you might want to look at the details of how the 302 from your home page is set up as if it is a tiny malformed you could be directing all pages of your site to that page.

Do you relly need the redirect from the homepage to the other page? If its not critical to some strategy I would suggest getting rid of it/ In general there is normally not a good reason to use a 302 link in place of a 301.
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Hi all:

Could this be the problem for me as well? See my post in the general search engines for urls.
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The redirect IS the problem. If you just Google "chelseasofnewyork.com" you get no result. This would infer to me that Google has removed your site from their index as in almost 99% of cases I have seen this will ussually display the site even if it were only recently submitted (in other words a full index had not yet been done).

What probably happened is that the redirect was interprited as some sort of spamming scheme.

Remove the redirect and also make sure your http://chelseasofnewyork.com AND http://www.chelseasofnewyork.com work properly.

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Chelsea

First you have a pop up on your main page. That's a very big NO with Google.

Second the pop up is from a company regarded as being from a known stable of browser hijackers. The worst known is a merchant on a US affiliate network and it replaces your cookie with theirs and redirects customers away from where they originally were going to. See : http://www.benedelman.org/spyware/investors/

Third I cannot view your source as the pop up is blocking this so I cannot comment on names but if you have more than twenty keywords listed then Google says "bye bye" and ignores you.
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I checked the sites you link to from your links directory, and found none that appear to be banned or otherwise troublesome.

I did however find a couple of 404 (page not found) links though.

--- Best Deals On Lingerie – goes to 404
--- Fashion Glamour Model No.1 - redirects and then goes to 404

While Google does not like broken links, I doubt that this is the reason for not coming up in results.

I did not encounter a pop-up ad, but tend to agree that your redirect to /exoticdancewearHOME.html is very likely to be interpreted as spam.

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http://www.chelseasofnewyork.com/exo...ewearHOME.html is what you get when you click the link for Http://www.chelseaofnewyork.com but if you manually type in http://www.chelseaofnewyork.com you get the original page and not the redirect plus the pop up and that is what Google is reading.
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who is landing.domainsponsor.com ???? That is where it's coming from
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Old 01-13-2005, 07:51 PM
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Hi All,
First of all, thanks for all your comments and help.

Second, the website www.chelseaofnewyork.com is not mine and I have nothing to do with it. My website is www.chelseasofnewyork.com with an "s" after the name chelsea. Could this be why this is happening??? Did someone do this maliciously?
I'm so upset.
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Google normally uses 302 errors or redirects as page found. Many sites use 302 to direct to a lost or no url found or deleted.

As outlined to you earlier you have doubled up on your meta keyword & description tags

None of these are banning offenses.

But spamming is and it can be done without realizing you have done so.

I noticed in your coding some tables are set to black to create a border affect. you Body text is also set to black.

Google can sometimes read this as being black on black which is a big NO NO. Seeing it as spam even though it displays correctly via a browser.

I had similar problems a couple of years ago and got them to re-spider the site by re-applying to be in the google listings once a month until google accepted the error was corrected.

Instead of using bgcolor=#000000 for these tables use a darkish colour like #000099 which will be seen to be different to the set text color.

Also be careful ABOUT WHAT EXTERNAL LINKS you have to other sites. If Google finds you are linking to one on their bad list of sites, your pages will also be classified the same way.

If your site is reasonably new, Google does come and go on search results until you are incorporated into their main database.

If your site is an established site then google has found something it does not like.

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I think I can safely say that your problem is most likely due to Google seeing some of your URLs as duplicate content, and its probably due to a malformed redirect which is doing you more harm than good.

If you enter the address
http://www.chelseasofnewyork.com/sexygowns.html in the address bar you are indeed taken to that page but
if you enter the address
http://chelseasofnewyork.com/sexygowns.html (without the www.) into address bar then you are taken to

http://www.chelseasofnewyork.com/pag....cfm/sexygowns which is the same page but with a different URL so Google sees it as duplicate content.

Get rid of the fancy redirects.
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Hi Everyone,
I tried to fix some of the items that you all have suggested. I'm not sure if I've done it right. As I said before, I used a website builder to do these sites, so I don't have total control over all the coding.

If anyone knows a way around this, or how to specifically fix the redirects, please let me know.

I appreciate everyone's input on my problem.
Thanks again,
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Hi again,
Let me clarify why my domain name has a redirct.

When I first made my website at Citymax, they automatically add something like this to the end of your domain name "page/page/12345.htm" . Then...about a couple months later, offer this:

"Add a Friendly URL
Allows you to change your web address extension (e.g. if you enter index, then your address will be www.YOURADDRESS.com/index.html)
Only letters, numbers and underscores allowed. Sorry, no numbers on their own (e.g. 9876) or underscores on their own.
Once you change to a customized extension, you cannot change back to the page/page/12345.htm format. "

I then took out the "page/page/12345.htm" and added "exoticdancewearHOME" as my extension instead. I did around 4 months ago. I was on page 1 for many of my keywords until a couple weeks ago.

Is there anyway of fixing this or do I have to contact Citymax to do something?
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I would definitely suggest that you try some tools to look over the meta-tags you have on your site. I'm looking at them now and that may be another part of the problem.

Just your index home page for example:

Your Title is just a list of products with - between them. Your Title should read like a headline that gives the Search Bots some keywords concerning your site within real text that would read well for the human reader. This is how you grab the bots attention.

Your keywords are excellent I wouldn't change that.

But your description starts out with a list of your products which normally would seem a good thing to do but the bot may be reading that as excess spam and seeing it as addition keywords in this space. You should rewrite this so that the keywords are somewhere in the first 10 words but there should be context for them in a sentence rather then starting with the list of products.

I would highly recommend using IBP4 - $179.95 http://www.axandra-web-site-promotio....com/index.htm
it is an excellent tool for running analysis on your site and giving feedback on optimization. I'm finding it very helpful in globally re-optimizing the 2 sites at my new job here at Blue Dolphin Group.

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I would definitely suggest that you try some tools to look over the meta-tags you have on your site. I'm looking at them now and that may be another part of the problem.

Just your index home page for example:

Your Title is just a list of products with - between them. Your Title should read like a headline that gives the Search Bots some keywords concerning your site within real text that would read well for the human reader. This is how you grab the bots attention.

Your keywords are excellent I wouldn't change that.

But your description starts out with a list of your products which normally would seem a good thing to do but the bot may be reading that as excess spam and seeing it as addition keywords in this space. You should rewrite this so that the keywords are somewhere in the first 10 words but there should be context for them in a sentence rather then starting with the list of products.

I would highly recommend using IBP4 - $179.95 http://www.axandra-web-site-promotio....com/index.htm
it is an excellent tool for running analysis on your site and giving feedback on optimization. I'm finding it very helpful in globally re-optimizing the 2 sites at my new job here at Blue Dolphin Group.

Hope this helps you!
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