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Old 10-14-2004, 11:19 AM
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Hi,

At the beginning of url.biz we javascripted links and all the content on url.biz was being indexed and high in the engines.

People were thanking us for helping their business. People were upset about javascripting but we felt that would show Google that we were not a link farm.

We stopped javascript links when we started getting complaints from users like yourselves.

It appears that people wrote articles that were posted other places and Google flagged our site for duplicate content. Not fair but Google does what it wants to.

We have a huge database of clients from URL.biz and are creating a new system that people can benefit form our expereince. I will announce it in a couple of weeks.

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Old 10-14-2004, 11:32 AM
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First off welcome to WPW and I (we) really appreciate you adding your voice to this discussion. I admit I didn't expect it but am very pleased to have been wrong. Thank you.

I look forward to the new system being implemented and the results they obtain.

Many articles throughout the web are linked to and reprinted and duplicated by permission. Google indexes these. I'm curious if Google themselves indicated you were flagged, and if the problem has been rectified since it seems no/most articles are currently not being indexed.

Many, many URL's on url.biz are still not being indexed by google, many category pages as well. Do you expect this change upon implementing the new system and why.

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Old 10-14-2004, 01:09 PM
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Hi, all. First, I think Google has too much power in their hands. It seems that everyone has to play by "their" rules and jump when they say jump, but so be it until something better comes along, I guess.

To me, content is content, whether it's duplicate or not. If all roads lead to rome, why should they care if you have more than one page or not as long as your page has something beneficial to both the search engine and the user? Are search engines about relevance? Does relevance only have one path to it? If the end users find what he's looking for, via articles, content-rich pages, links on other sites, etc., who cares?

Personally I think the new deep indexing has nothing to do with penalizing anybody. I think it has to do with getting ALL the information available out there to make a bigger index, that's one of the reasons why G is indexing books too. They need to justify to the investors their price-per-share and the only way to do that is by being #1 and having few complaints and by trying to please the users, yes, you and I and everyone else.

Content is still king and I think that's what Google is looking for to stay #1. Someone else can come along and do everything google does plus more.
If google is viewed as a search engine tyrant, then it's not fun and profitable.

Google just needs to figure out a way to beat the pay-per-click abusers in India who spend the day clicking on adword links with no intention of buying anything. Yet, I see Google is branching out to India too.
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Guess I'm kinda surprised there's not more posts.

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Old 10-15-2004, 02:51 AM
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Partly due to the time difference. I was out yesterday evening, so I can only check this morning. The matter of duplicate content on articles has worried me slightly in the past, I will admit. The other search engines do still show the link from URL.BIZ, so it would seem to be a matter of Google only. I guess it is their search engine, so they are entitled to run it the way they wish, but it is a problem for many of us who rely heavily on Google traffic. I will be interested to see what the new format is like, and I hope this will solve the problem. Personally, the articles I sent to your site are only copied on my site, so I will make some changes to my copies to make them unique.
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