URL stacking on 1 IP by hosting company

marinemasters · #1 (**permalink**) 10-13-2004, 12:56 PM

Dear Friends:

I was recently told that Google is penalizing my web site http://www.wasmundbindery.com because I chose a hosting company that stacks multiple domains on a single IP (Bizland's value plan).

Is this true?

clasione · #2 (**permalink**) 10-13-2004, 01:40 PM

Only if one of the sites on the IP is getting banned for some reason....

Google will ban the IP -

Which means, every site on that IP - could get banned....

This is the only real unfortunate thing when your not on dedicated hosting....

bhartzer · #3 (**permalink**) 10-13-2004, 02:12 PM

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I was recently told that Google is penalizing my web site

How do you know that you're getting penalized? Your site is still in the index.

You may be penalized for having links from other sites that are hosted on the same IP address, though. And if that's the case, then I would get rid of those links.

marinemasters · #4 (**permalink**) 10-13-2004, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bhartzer

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I was recently told that Google is penalizing my web site

How do you know that you're getting penalized? Your site is still in the index.

You may be penalized for having links from other sites that are hosted on the same IP address, though. And if that's the case, then I would get rid of those links.

How do I know if if they are hosted on the same IP. Please forgive me, I'm a real neophyte at this.

Thanking you in advance,

pedstersplanet · #5 (**permalink**) 10-13-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by clasione

Only if one of the sites on the IP is getting banned for some reason....
Google will ban the IP -
Which means, every site on that IP - could get banned....

poppycock......how about geocities, lycos, freewebs, etc free hosting services....

greeneagle · #6 (**permalink**) 10-13-2004, 06:08 PM

"Blacklisting" does occur, Have you checked it against leading "Blacklists"?

Ken

bhartzer · #7 (**permalink**) 10-13-2004, 06:57 PM

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how about geocities, lycos, freewebs, etc free hosting services

Those geocities sites don't link to each other.

To find an IP address, you can use this site.

pedstersplanet · #8 (**permalink**) 10-13-2004, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bhartzer

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how about geocities, lycos, freewebs, etc free hosting services

Those geocities sites don't link to each other.

And I doubt Jen links to every site on her server (I.P) aswell... well, she could without knowing.... the chances of that are low.......

my server has over 400 sites.....so, it'll be out of order if the i.p of that server gets banned if 4 or so sites linked to eachother by accident....?

marinemasters · #9 (**permalink**) 10-14-2004, 09:46 AM

Dhartzer: Thanks for that link - You da man!!

As far as the linking issue is concerned, I interlink every site I design. I create a page on every new site I design that links to all the others. To see what I am talking about, look at these links

http://www.wasmundbindery.com/web-design.html and
http://www.usapowerboating.com/trident.htm

I know these are "link farms" but I was told that this type was not considered in the spam category.

Thanking you in advance,

jwm5411 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-14-2004, 02:30 PM

It was discussed many moons ago in this forum that multiple websites on one IP address may cause your PR to be lower than the same website coming from a dedicated IP address.
The issue is not banning the sites that share an IP address, but lower ranking.

I would like to hear from someone that has tested this issue.

pedstersplanet · #11 (**permalink**) 10-14-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by marinemasters

As far as the linking issue is concerned, I interlink every site I design.

I understand what you mean now, you have 2 or more sites on just 1 server, yes? I misread the initial message.....

As long as you dont over-do the links to & from each site, you'll should be okay.

Can't you ask for your sites to be on different servers, or did they offer a special deal?

:S

bhartzer · #12 (**permalink**) 10-14-2004, 03:46 PM

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I know these are "link farms" but I was told that this type was not considered in the spam category.

If you know these are link farms then don't do it. Are you linking these just to get better rankings? If so, then the search engines won't like it one bit. They won't ban your sites, but they sure as heck will penalize you for it--big time. Don't interlink any websites that are hosted on the same IP address, not even once. You'll be penalized for it.

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multiple websites on one IP address may cause your PR to be lower

PR (PageRank) has nothing to do with actual search engine results. In fact, you can still have a PR7 page that's interlinking with other sites on the same IP but because of a penalty your sites won't rank in the SERPs for anything.

jwm5411 · #13 (**permalink**) 10-14-2004, 08:31 PM

Let's say you don't link to any of the other sites that you share an IP with. Would your ranking be affected?
Does anyone know for sure?

Can't a "link farm" can just as easily be built with multiple IP addresses on the same server. How can a search engine tell the difference?

bhartzer · #14 (**permalink**) 10-14-2004, 08:33 PM

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Let's say you don't link to any of the other sites that you share an IP with

Then you have nothing to worry about. If you don't link to the other domains hosted on your same IP address then your rankings won't suffer.

In fact, some hosts typically will have more than 400+ domains hosted on the same IP address.

simonm · #15 (**permalink**) 10-15-2004, 07:14 AM

My experience is that multiple sites on single IPs can be treated by Google as a one bigger website. The only real risk here is that as Google will tend to pick its search results website by website, thus if another website on that IP scores well for a search term you want, your site will have been considered to have been placed on the search lists already!

Mel · #16 (**permalink**) 10-15-2004, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by marinemasters

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http://www.wasmundbindery.com/web-design.html and
http://www.usapowerboating.com/trident.htm

I know these are "link farms" but I was told that this type was not considered in the spam category.

Thanking you in advance,

I can see no way that either of those pages can be considered as link farms.