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Old 09-24-2004, 12:56 AM
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Default PR and relevency of outbound links affect PR?

I've just gotten Arelis Link Exchange Management tracking software and started to use it. I haven't generated pages with it yet and don't have my links pages catagorized yet.

Does the quality of or relevency of your outbound links on your links page ever adversely affect PR and SERPs?

How does Google determine relevency? What I mean is that I am a wedding photographer and I feel my brides might be interested in a calligraphy site for their wedding invitations and thank you notes. So, to me, this site would be very relevant for my customers. I was just wondering if Google would be smart enough to make such a connection?

I thought it was just the quality and relevency of your inbound backlinks that Google used to figure into your PR, am I wrong?

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You are right in your judgement, here important thing is if you think really think these links are relevant to your visitor than search engine may also find it that way. Most of the time when theme is completly diffrent than that of site gets you in throuble.
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Old 09-25-2004, 04:34 AM
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I thought it was just the quality and relevency of your inbound backlinks that Google used to figure into your PR, am I wrong?
Quality, yes.
Relevency, no.

When it comes to the Google ranking benefits of inbound links (both SERPS and PR), relevency is irrelevent.

Relevency does affect how often visitors will click on your link on another site however.
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rlrouse,

I respect you as a excellent poster here. I would just like to say that ahead of time. We only have one difference of opinion about relevancy.

Naturally, anything most of us say isn't fact, but speculation from our encounters and experience.

So I'll say that from my experience I have seen what I believe to be the best way as far as backlinks.

If your site is about Leather Ties then my first avenue of finding backlinks is to find as many sites about Leather and as many sites about Ties. My belief is that this is to be understood and recognized to boost your two words you are working so hard be recognized for.

After that you would work for clothing sites and so on. The initial linking to sites having to do with your main keywords about your site seem the most important. The end result is that you are working off of their sites theme of "Tie" or "Leather" to boost you presence and relevancy.
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We only have one difference of opinion about relevancy.
Differences of opinion are healthy IMO. In the context of SEO related issues, opinions are typically based upon personal experience. Perhaps our own personal experiences with links has led us to draw different conclusions.

My experience has been (and continues to be) that links with good anchor text help just as much if they're on an "unrelated" site as they do if they're on a "related" site. And this holds true across a huge variety of topics.
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It would seem logical that relevancy should play a part. It may well become more important in the future, so I also work on it.
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My understanding is that relevancy of a link has nothing to do with PR (PR is just the mathematical calculation of all incoming links).

BUT if you look at the different theories about the Google algorithm and patents that Google have (ie Hilltop; TopicSensitive PR; Local rank; etc) - the relevancy of a link is important in these theories to help determine ranking of a page (ie hilltop) and a local PR (ie TopicSensitive PR) (not the usual PR) ... at the end of the day we do not know for sure which or which parts of the patents and theories Google have implemented.... it is very possible that the relevace of a link could be more important..... that does not mean that non-relevant links are not important.

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as originally asked in the first post - no one seems to want to address one of the questions that was asked...

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Does the quality of or relevency of your outbound links on your links page ever adversely affect PR and SERPs?"

I am not sure how this works out but in my limited experience i have seen the PR go down and i can attribute that to my pages giving out outbount links to other site - any ideas appreciated.
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I thought it was just the quality and relevency of your inbound backlinks that Google used to figure into your PR, am I wrong?
Quality, yes.
Relevency, no.

When it comes to the Google ranking benefits of inbound links (both SERPS and PR), relevency is irrelevent.

Relevency does affect how often visitors will click on your link on another site however.
From what I have seen this is 100% true. I have seen nothing to even hint that it could be wrong.
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