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My first post on this forum! I have always wanted to ask some questions. It will be great if someone can help me with this. How do you know that spidering is going on? Is there any tool that tells you that your website is being spidered etc. How do you know which search engine crawled through your site? Chandan |
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Why doesn't google show all of the links to my site?
Google has always shown only a sample of the links coming into your site. These links are updated in the search results every 3 - 6 weeks. Even though google only shows a small sample, this does not mean that google doesn't count the other backlinks when displaying search results. Google updates its search result pages for standard searches continuously, and these search results take into account all links that google has found. Could you please more clarify... you mean to say that as google shows first 1000 results in SERPs..in the same way it shows some of the backlinks.. but for some sites it shows 20 and for some 100...what is the basis for displaying the backlinks *** to view backlinks, we use: link:www.abc.com but i think we must use abc.com -site:www.abc.com Please advice............. |
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Hi all. There doesn't seem to much info on this thread regarding what happened with Google May 21st. For those of you wanting to know about this ridiculous "PR"; how to get listed in G; "my site hasn't been picked up by G", etc., etc., it would be a good idea to read what's going on. Don't do anything to your sites now, it's a total waste of time.
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=46401 (4th post from the bottom on 1st page) http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/ (See "Google Bourbon Update Pt. 3". That may change to part 4 soon as there are roughly some ~2500 posts now). And, http://google-watch.org/ for some very interesting info regarding G. For those of us depending on G for our businesses: God help us all.
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In finance there is a saying:
"What everyones knows isn't worth knowing." What is the next wave of SEO, PPC, AdWords, LinkExchange, Ezine Ad, LinkBrokerage etc. etc. My own view, the BOT's will get smarter, and the various techniques for Ad bombing will be revealed. Searchengines that are best on content will win in the end. I like this http://www.factbites.com/ engine. The next generation of surfers will require more than getting a list of (often repeated) links in the same search. You should be able to ask the engine like you ask a human being in a library, a sort of artificial intelligence (AI) option will be one possibility. What about the invisible web search engine http://www.incywincy.com/ It has a relatively high Google pagerank. KBleivik http://multifinanceit.com/ |
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I have tried to increase my ranking in google for a year now. I use IBP and follow all they recommend. I just reasently read that adding a google blog will increase your site rating. What is your responce to this? Also i read that providing RSS Feeds will also help. We have a very nice site for children clothing at cheap prices. maybe you'll take a look and make some other recommendations. Thanks, Our site is [Edited by Mod Webnauts: Link deleted. For a site review, please post in the Site Review" Forms.]
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Make a sitemap with static links to all the pages on your site using relevant anchor text. You need to have more text on the home page with keywords that you are targeting in the text. Replace the image text at the top with actual text. You need a lot of links into your homepage and sub pages. Make sure the links have the anchor text you want your site to rank for in them. Make the 'Home' links go to the address: http://www.realclassykids.com/onlinestore/ and not: http://www.realclassykids.com/online...ain_page=index The more you use variables in your links, the harder it is to rank properly. I would personally remove the ads from the bottom, and remove the IP address from the bottom. Mainly, you need to stick around this and other SEO related forums and learn SEO in depth. Your site needs a lot of work as far as optimizing to rank well goes. Ranking a site is not something that is going to happen over night. |
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Sorry for the stupid question but what does a "PR5" page rank mean? Does that mean you are the fifth listing in the search results on page 1 of the results or that you are on page 5 or ???
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Thanks for the definition. I felt like I was the only one who didn't know and was afraid to ask.
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Prevent hijacking:
http://www.loriswebs.com/hijacking_web_pages.html You may take a look at my http://multifinanceit.com/robots.txt file. I also have a htaccess.txt file, http://multifinanceit.com/htaccess.txt that is not implemented as .htaccess. I also have another version http://multifinanceit.com/htaccess1.txt Recommended links: http://techpatterns.com/downloads/spider_blocking.php http://www.hostpronto.com/article/9/6 "Setting a Spider-trap The best method of identifying bad bots is to create what is known as a Spider-trap. Create a directory, block that directory to all agents using robots.txt and link to the directory from a page (usually as a small 1x1 pixel link). Only bad bots will access that directory (ie they've ignored our robots.txt exclusion). These bots can then be directed to a script that will immediately grab their IP address, User Agent or Referrer and add it to an .htaccess file - so that they're banned from the site". Found this excellent http://www.garykeith.com/browsers/downloads.asp link where you can download files. Why reinvent the wheel? KBleivik http://multifinanceit.com/ http://www.multifinansit.no/ |
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Hi thank you for the informations.
It happened to me too my web site was ranked 4 I searched recently i received a message saying that my web site it wasn`t ranked. thank you www.getnowdomains.com |
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Google sitemaps has got 4 out of 5 of my new websites listed within about 3 days.
One or two of them appearing and staying on the 1st page! What I can't understand though, is one site which is a stock photography site doesn't appear anywhere and buried so deep, God only knows where? and yet I've used the same keywords as other highly ranked photo libraries and same textual content. It's nothing about backlinks either. I'm just perplexed that a quality low cost royalty free and rights managed stock photos library - http://www.photo-image-stock.com isn't getting anywhere when the other sites I put up are steaming ahead. Could it be they're php the majority of the pages? Anyone any ideas??? By the way... If anyone takes a look and can't see the 'search library'orange image to the far left, it's down to Windows XP and the faulty patch they released that you may have!!! Don't you just love it when they not only release faulty wares... but then release faulty patches!!! Neil J Bradford: Graphic/Web Designer & Photographer www.My-Designer.co.uk www.Flower-Photos.co.uk www.Photo-Image-Stock.com Email: neil@my-designer.co.uk |
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You will have to compute by dividing the total hits by the number of items on your page, eg. if you have 5 images on your home page then each will count as 1 hit. secondly you need a good tracking program installed on the server to make some sence of your website traffic. I personally like http://awstats.sourceforge.net/. It gives detailed breakdown of this info.
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How do I find out if my host has been banned by Google?
Im using a free host at the moment http://wwww.1l.com All my pages http://www.murdertodiefor.1l.com are listed on MSN and 3 pages are listed on Yahoo but, even though I use Google sitemaps, I'm a member of Adsense and Googlebot visits my site at least twice a day I'm still not listed on Google. Any advice would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
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With regard to DMOZ/ODP, Iknow this is a Google forum but wrmineo wrote
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Very helpful!! You now have no way of knowing if your site will ever get listed. The only answer is to submit and then forget it. Best of luck.
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" If they don't do the deep crawl once a month, than do they just do a fresh crawl all the time now, or do they do a continual deep crawl? "
Onestly, I follow up what you said and I couldn't find the right answer. |
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There's been a lot of discussion on Linking. We've been considering purchasing some LINK MANAGEMENT Software--right now we're considering ARELLIS--which seems to have lots of awards.
But before we fork out the $100 for the software, I thought I'd ask what other people are using and if they think it's worth the $, are there any pitfalls in this software (like in Webpos), etc. One of our biggest time expenditures is managing links. Are there links to US still valid? Did the site go under (we've had that happen more than a few times). Has our link been put on a PR0 page (i.e., not seen by Google)? I'd be interested what the EXPERIENCED Webmasters use. Thanks! |
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Links should be put places where they'll result in traffic, not just pages that search engines see. So what if the page is PR0 - it may just be a new page on the site. So what if their PR is much lower than ours or if their homepage is 0 - if I found them via a search, they've got something working for them. We try to find related products to our power tools, something like door hardware (drawer pulls, knobs, etc.) is part of remodeling, so it makes sense to link between our sites. Automotive performance product sites make sense - those people usually install their own upgrades which requires tools. Many of the links we select provide large amounts of traffic because we target them well. I've also supplied content to some sites with links to our site included, things like "How to install this _____" with links to the tools we recommend for the job. Those links do very well for us. If you're basing decisions on the green entertainment meter on your web browser, you're missing a lot of good linking opportunities. Linking for traffic is much more rewarding than linking for search rankings - just ask [url=http://www.ericward.com/linkstrategy.html]Eric Ward[/rul] (he was in charge of the original link campaigns for Amazon.com and Weather.com before Google ever came out and rewarded them for links.) Do what makes sense for the visitors and the engines will reward you well, but that's the afterthought. If a site is really useful, we'll link to it and not require a link back. We just try to do what makes sense for our site visitors. Brian.
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I received some alerts on back link updating for some of my sites today. But there is no major change in traffic so far.
Any one has noticed this ?
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"Linking for traffic is much more rewarding than linking for search rankings."
Is there correlation? But perhaps not causality. Write a new thread about it, at least one page, please. |
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Read this articel from Jakob Nielsen
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/defaults.html Research Topics · Machine Learning, Support Vector Machines, Statistical Learning Theory · Text Classification, Text Mining, Web Mining, Information Retrieval · Information Agents http://www.cs.cornell.edu/People/tj/ For more information download this PDF document. http://www.cs.cornell.edu/People/tj/...s_etal_05a.pdf A lot of references there. |
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I am a hosting company, and I of course assume that my clients are not banned because of me. But is there a handy dandy tool to check? I shouldn't be banned, I try to be good :-) Thanks.
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Gives a blacklist status in the details. Usually that is listed for email related reasons, but if you can't properly promote via email because of a blacklist status the site will have trouble down the road. Brian.
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thanks - good tool :-) I just checked it out and my domain is clear (whew!) well, it SHOULD be, but ... I'm happy to have a way to check. I've been using betterwhois.com to look up registrations, didn't know I could get more.
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Submitting to directories is valid, submitting to search engines isn't. However, automated submissions to directories are considered a violation of their TOS in most cases, so I don't recommend doing that either. Brian.
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I used a Swedish company before my site was half finished, and it was soon indexed.
Why does the SE's (Directories) of SE's have a submit option. Most often you should read under help: Example: 1. http://www.yahoo.com/ Help, lower right corner. 2. http://help.yahoo.com/ Click "How to Suggest a Site" 3. http://search.yahoo.com/info/submit.html It is also possible to submit to other SE's. And here is the new way: "How do I increase the chances for my site to be indexed by LocalcomBot? Tips and Guidelines to Optimize Inclusion in LocalcomBot Include your business's physical business address and phone/fax numbers in the text of your home page, contact page, directions page or about page. Make sure the address is in TEXT format and not in image format. We do not index image content. We recommend that your address be in the following format: Street Address, City, State, Zip, Telephone, Fax (Example: 123 Main St., Dayton, NJ 08810 tel: 732-000-0000 fax: 732-000-0001) We also recommend that you include your business's physical address in the footer of your web page." http://www.local.com/bot.htm Then assume you have an Ecommerce site. You submit it to 100 relatively unknown SE's. One of these takes off and become the new ??????? Are you 100 % sure that it is more profitable to submit to directories / portals? I succeeded because I saw the small details other people overlooked. Henry Ford. Related post: http://webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=53602 Do not forget to read the footers. LocalcomBot does. |
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Sure, kgun. The free-for-all links pages that most of these programs submit to may soon become one of the biggest search engines on the planet. Or maybe AltaVista, now owned by Yahoo, is going to make a huge comeback.
Now, as for why it's not important to submit, think of it this way. If a search engine requires you to submit, then how are they going to find other pages on your site? The fact that you have to submit would imply that they don't crawl links. This means you'd have to hand submit every page on your site. I'm not going to submit my 50,000+ page sites like that. Nobody is. Google's ranking algo, along with Yahoo, Ask Jeeves, MSN and any of the "Newer" ones I've seen, all factor in links for rankings. Not having links means you won't rank, so what's the point. If you can go to a directory and submit, you've got a link. They'll not only find your site because of this link, but also rank you a little better because of a link they found. I've seen SEO's say that you need to submit your site every month / week / even every day to Google. Why? I've never submitted any of my sites to Google, yet I consistently have first page rankings on the terms that I really care about. What is submitting going to gain me? Absolutely nothing. Using software to submit to Google / MSN / Yahoo / etc. is against their terms of service, so you risk a penalty if you do it - especially if you do it repeatedly, which is the only reason you'd need software in the first place. A single hand submission is fine, but using a program to do it is just bad form and has the opportunity to harm you rather than help. Brian.
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Using software to submit to Google / MSN / Yahoo / etc. is against their terms of service, so you risk a penalty if you do it - especially if you do it repeatedly, which is the only reason you'd need software in the first place. A single hand submission is fine, but using a program to do it is just bad form and has the opportunity to harm you rather than help.
Do it once and by a company you rely on. 1. FreshBot that you mentioned yourself (in another post?), first find the site. Now it get it before it find it. 2. FreshBot now feeds GoogleBot that go to the site and follow (internal and external) links. Perhaps you should be one of those that do not know of Google Sitemaps. I know, you know it as you know Red Hat Linux. 3. On your site GoogleBot may find outbound links related to your business. Some of these may have discovered your site (even if chances are not great) and linked to it. GoogleBot note a vote to your site. 4. Matrix inversion (and then follow links). Does it increase the probability of GoogleBot finding links to your site? Is there a link attractor that GoogleBot vists more often if it start on your site? "Academic citation literature has been applied to the web, largely by counting citations or backlinks to a given page. This gives some approximation of a page's importance or quality. PageRank extends this idea by not counting links from all pages equally, and by normalizing by the number of links on a page. PageRank is defined as follows: We assume page A has pages T1...Tn which point to it (i.e., are citations). The parameter d is a damping factor which can be set between 0 and 1. We usually set d to 0.85. There are more details about d in the next section. Also C(A) is defined as the number of links going out of page A. The PageRank of a page A is given as follows: PR(A) = (1-d) + d (PR(T1)/C(T1) + ... + PR(Tn)/C(Tn)) Note that the PageRanks form a probability distribution over web pages, so the sum of all web pages' PageRanks will be one. PageRank or PR(A) can be calculated using a simple iterative algorithm, and corresponds to the principal eigenvector of the normalized link matrix of the web. Also, a PageRank for 26 million web pages can be computed in a few hours on a medium size workstation. There are many other details which are beyond the scope of this paper." http://www-db.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html "There are many other details which are beyond the scope of this paper." Who know these details? Do we know how GoogleBot works? FreshBot and GoogleBot have to start a place, why not at dmoz or at your own site? I do not know how updated and correct this chart is: http://www.bruceclay.com/searchengin...nshipchart.htm |
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Bruce's chart is updated monthly. That's about as up to date as it gets. Danny Sullivan refers to it at every SES, so it's considered a trusted source by the most noteable in the industry.
If I'm following your logic, by hiring a company to do what you could do yourself in 2 minutes you think you'll rank better and faster. You're fully allowed to spend money wherever you like, but I won't waste it on search engine submissions. If I really thought they'd do any good, I'd spend the 2 minutes to submit my site to each of the 3 majors and the half dozen others that see some traffic and aren't supplied by other engines and call it good, but I don't see a reason for that either. Then again, I only have thousands of first page listings that generate traffic to show for my efforts. What I'm doing must not be working. ;-) The biggest problem with submission to search engines is that many people stop right there. That'll never get rankings. I've heard several times that Google uses their "Submit your site" form to track spammers. I know I don't want to be associated with that. As for sitemaps, they don't create rankings but just get pages indexed. There is a big difference. As many people are talking about lately, the sandbox (which I'm assuming you're trying to exit asap) is related to link age, not just how long a page has been indexed. Submitting won't help with getting links to age and pass along full values. Brian.
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If you love tools, you find hundreds of links on my site:
Start at the left edge of http://multifinanceit.com/ and scroll down or use search this page if you have IE: CTRL + F + KW Some KW's: Quality control Web developement Branding and AD There are a lot of links on the various pages that you can navigate to by using site navigation in the upper right corner. The links I have ranked highest on these pages are on the page. Then there are subpages with links, KW "Links" on every page. A lot of people in Norway that work in financial institutions use the site. But there are even more IT-links. Hope you find it useful. US education is a heavy user. It is not an ordinary link collection. It is subject driven, so people seeking global financial information and people seeking tools for there web site / business can find it by going to the right page. Use the headings on the sub pages, and you may find categories, that you are not even aware of. Have a nice day. |
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I am befuddled with our up and down ranking with Google.
We signed up with their Ad Words and are running a campaign...which has proved a nice surprise. If someone could check out our site and make any suggestions, I'd certainly appreciate it http://www.heritagehonda.net I also read that Google is using a "site mapping" bot and am wondering if this might be useful. Here is the link for that http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/login Thanks in advance for you help! Jerry
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Again, the SEO forum has been very helpful to me in understanding more of the ins-n-outs of Google.
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I also read that Google is using a "site mapping" bot and am wondering if this might be useful
Are you talking about Google Sitemaps, start here: http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic...=252824#252824 writergrrrl48 This is a monster list - I'll be there for hours :-) thanks, in the first 5 minutes I found bunches of interesting links. Note the <META NAME="description" of http://multifinanceit.com/ Financial information at your fingertips. IT solutions for your webbusiness. The evolution of search innovation. Professional link evolution and no artificial link inflation. So the policy is not to keep up with the webs exponential page growth. Linking relevant sites in my niche is the goal. Hope you find it useful also in the future. |
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lets talk football now..
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I'm not sure, if this is update related or not, but there is a lawsuit seeking class action status against Google by the Authors Guild for massive copyright infringement.
I also heard a rumor Google is about to served with a class action lawsuit regarding unfair business practices. Maybe it's related to them manipulating the SERPs in conflict with their stated guidelines that they do not? Maybe it's time to sell. Anyone heard anything?
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"Buy on rumours and sell on news."
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To answer an earlier question I launched my site in 5/2005 and my page rank began to show up on the browser about a month later. However, I've read that just because google shows a page rank of zero for a new site doesn't mean they use zero as their internal page rank. It seems like backlinks are updated continuously.
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